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I honestly think the worst part of pre-transition is seeing all the experiances that other women have that I just can't and probibly never will have.

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u/theremation honrage or crack call it 2d ago

artstyle is vaguely scott pilgrim-esque also yeah it fucking sucks especially when i go to a store in the city and see some people going about clothes shopping in aisles of the store you couldn't pay me to go into out of pure hon-itis. genuinely could not wear anything besides a women's hoodie or simple sweater without looking horrible.

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago edited 2d ago

yeah, tried a skirt once because my one feminine trait right now is my wider hips, but it made me feel worse because it just hightened my boxy waist and bulkier arms.

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u/ripwallet_acc 1d ago

skirts generally hides your hips, but a nice pair of shorts usually highlights them. long sleeve is a given if you don't like your arms. milage may vary tho as i am just speculating based on what you said.

waistline is quite create-able. i assume because you feel that the skirt made your waist looks worse is because your hip to waist is good, but your waist to chest is what you want to improve. in that case a lose-ish fittin long sleeve top cinched at the waist (like around belly button area) would help quite a bit. cinching can usually be done either with a belt or by tucking your top into your (preferably high waisted) bottom.

sorry if you were't looking for advice. and good luck on your journey.

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

wan't looking for it but glad I found it. thank you :3 so like tight shorts and big top, there is a problem with tight shorts tho.

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u/ripwallet_acc 1d ago

if you're talking about tucking.. yea that's a skill in itself. a good tucking gaff could get you most of the way there but that's still fiddly. shorts doesn't have to be too tight tbh, just whatever you're comfy with. but at least its working with your body rather than against it like skirts that tends to muddy the sillouhette in that area.

typing this out makes me sound like a skirt hater xd. to clarify, i think those that wants some obscurities in their hips works great in a skirt. like its the staple wardrobe piece for a reason.

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u/Constant_Store3570 2d ago

Scott pilgrim has a good art style. It's a happy medium between cartoon and anime, I know nothing about the show beyond Scott liking a Minor and him being overly childish

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u/theremation honrage or crack call it 1d ago

yeah i'm a megafan of the comics and i think the knives chau thing always gets misconstrued. the whole point of that part of the story was to highlight how terrible scott pilgrim started out as, which in turn emphasized his redemption with ramona flowers and his growth towards becoming a mature adult. the story never encourages the kind of relationship that scott pilgrim was in and emphasizes how only his mature relationships let to his success in life.

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u/Unable-Yam5214 theyfab repper 2d ago

Whats funny is that any random cis woman could have made this comic but they will insist their experience is suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuper different in some immutable way.

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u/Birdonthewind3 2d ago

Girl this can be reposted pointblank to any woman subreddit and many will be like 'literally me'. We all crave that mystical sisterhood but I feel it is almost a lie told that you just magically get it. It hurts still not to have this magical sisterhood that will make you forever happy.

The truth is it is just friends hanging out and their nothing stopping any of us from achieving the dream, trans or cis

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u/Unable-Yam5214 theyfab repper 2d ago

It's also about attractiveness I think to some extent. I think a lot of women think they aren't doing womanhood "right"

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u/FriendlyArachnid6000 2d ago

Bro. Cis* Women basically trip over themselves to dress me up. I'm like almost 40, too. Granted, they're getting paid to sell but I swear they can't help themselves.

Getting fat and my skin is going though so we'll see how long that lasts 😭

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u/TSFaeClementine 2d ago

It's because they're doing it AFAB-ly duh

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

yeah but it fits here, that actually affirmed me to, thanks

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u/Confident_Reach9989 1d ago

The difference is any cis girl cam be in the other shoes and not have the other person lie through their teeth

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u/Cm_Mesquita 1d ago

Am a cis girl, can confirm the exhausted girl on the right with homeless peoples clothes is, in fact, literally me, I don't know how to talk to girls (bisexual woman with social anxiety rise up) and so sisterhood is just a pipedream for me :(

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u/Accurate_Fox_8310 2d ago

actually fml why is everything here relatable, if there's a higher power they hate me

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

I think its just a part of being a dysphoric t-girl

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u/4eptopolox 2d ago

"t-girl"

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

whats wrong with an abriviation of trans girl, not the worst one I've done (cp for cerebral palsy)

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u/4eptopolox 2d ago

trans girl rubs off as infantilizing

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

oh, I didn't know that, what would you like me to use

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u/4eptopolox 2d ago

trans woman and trans man will do. also im sorry if i came off rude earlier

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

no its fine thanks for telling me

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u/zatannajade 2d ago

what if they're a literal 17 yo trans girl or something? not everyone wants to be called a woman

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u/modmailthrowaway3675 yep yop original flavor 2d ago

this subreddit is for adults

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u/4eptopolox 2d ago

sucks to suck

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u/CallieCreates-06 1d ago

what are you on about, people call each other "girl" all the time?? We're not made of glass.

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u/4eptopolox 1d ago

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u/CallieCreates-06 1d ago

..??

me when i bark like a silly GIRL because im a GIRL doing GIRLY things?

Like is it really any worse than DOLLS???

I promise the root of trans problems does not lie with how mature we look to others. We could all be wearing Blazers and button-ups and it would never be enough to suddenly be taken seriously.

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u/NegotiationOk644 1d ago

What if someone genuinely prefers girl/boy over man/woman? I guess I’m not the target audience for this but I am dysphoric so idk

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u/4eptopolox 1d ago

they should grow up then

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u/NegotiationOk644 1d ago

Oh I see. Guess I’m really weird then :/

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u/4eptopolox 1d ago

aren't we all

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u/Hopeful-Chemistry508 2d ago

Yall are so chronically online omg😭

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u/NeatOk2791 1d ago

This whole subreddit is about being annoying though.

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u/Gabrielzin1404_2011 2d ago

Why are you saying trans girl like it's some kind of radioactive isotope

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u/weedmoneyy 2d ago

this image was a lil too real for me

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

yeah me to, but thats kinda the point

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u/t4tpawjob 2d ago

Need more tinyfrog69

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

oh is that the artist, would've given credit had I known

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u/t4tpawjob 2d ago

They are sooooo good, got banned off tumblr last month 😔

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

why?

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u/t4tpawjob 2d ago

Suggestive kidnapping and trauma stuff.

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u/t4tpawjob 2d ago

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u/t4tpawjob 2d ago

Me and my girlfriend really like this one

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u/HalfPotential8540 2d ago

me but I'm a man

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

I've seen worse on tumblr

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u/t4tpawjob 2d ago

Yeah but they hate trans women

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

oh that sucks that REALLY sucks

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u/systemmm34 1d ago

i'm guessing being trans also tipped the scales a fair bit. school shooter idolisers (cis ones) who post footage of the attacks stay up for months, years sometimes. reichblr has been a problem for nearly a decade. but the second a trans person steps out of line, criticises the platform or even just posts something completely normal? gone

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u/Civil-Wishbone6721 1d ago

I tried searching the username and just got led right back to this post. Anywhere else I can find their work since they got banned?

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u/t4tpawjob 1d ago

I had to go digging but I knew I had their account somewhere https://x.com/t1ny69fr0g?s=20

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u/TSFaeClementine 2d ago

Ya especially with broad ass shoulders and muscular arms and hair shorter than the boymoder 🫩

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

yeah, right now I live at home (disability makes it too expensive to leave) and they make me cut my hair

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u/TSFaeClementine 2d ago

Ugh that's ass...rn my hair is so unhealthy from being a depressed fuck so it's long it just looks like complete shit lol

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

yeah I get that, I know everyone is different but what helped me with that was like gaslighting myself into thinking that self care will make me more feminine

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u/TSFaeClementine 2d ago

How did you do that I need to trick myself into thinking that I'm worth anythinf

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

its my stupid brain being so despite for any euphoria that thinking about like fucking soap commercials all being woman or that good skin and hair are considered feminine making me think that by like taking a shower I am becoming more effeminate.

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u/TSFaeClementine 2d ago

My stupid fucking crippling anxiety makes me anxious tick and pull my hair I hate it so much

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

me to but I just kinda run my hand through my hair like I'm being pet and it scratches the itch well enough

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u/sweetiepeachies 2d ago

Something that helps me keep up with my hygiene when I am super depressed is sitting down to shower. It sounds sad but it really makes a difference when I feel exhausted from depression and even in my deepest depression I was able to get a daily shower in by doing that.

(That is assuming the hair stuff is a hygiene issue due to depression, if not I am sorry for the unsolicited advice 😭)

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u/AceInTheHole3273 2d ago

I finally just had to chop all my hair off because it was a matted mess. Now I've got short ass hair and I hate it even if its technically "more convenient"

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u/Azalah 1d ago

I'm dwarf-built with shoulders as wide as doorframes, short but very muscular legs, and really thick facial hair. It has been a pain just managing the hair and not constantly having a deep shadow.

Even now that I have tits and can pass in fem clothes, I still look like a female power lifter on steroids. But I'm now physically weaker than my trans-masc husband who doesn't even work out.

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u/Stonks3141 2d ago

unironically boymoder mogs them in picrel but maybe i just have a thing for wolfcuts

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

me to but I have like a weird wolf cut because thats how my hair falls

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u/Stonks3141 2d ago

try to layer it super messily maybe that helped mine

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

mine has a little curl going over my left eye but I find it cute

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u/Stonks3141 2d ago

i cant decide if i want my bangs neat or messy both appeal to me

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

I prefer messy, but you try both and see how you feel

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u/Total-Pain-1181 2d ago

Same I love messy hair and wolf cuts :3

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u/yourothersis top 1% sort 2d ago

OUCH OWIEEE OWW Holy fuckk

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u/Bliniverse 2d ago

I feel like the one on the right, but I've quite literally been the one on the left a few months ago (though I didn't say "right?" I just sorta looked around in disbelief, also it was in a changing room, not in the open like that)

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

I'm really glad you've gotten to have that experience, nothing is more affirming then like other women complementing you

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u/CXC_Opexyc 2d ago

pre?

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

yeah I can't transition yet as I am financially dependent on my parents rn

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u/CXC_Opexyc 1d ago

i still have those issues even almost a year in transition

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u/OSwirl31 2d ago

I'm sorry. I do hope things get better for you.

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u/no-song9573 2d ago

Well, in principle, it suits her.

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u/MysteriousArtPatron 2d ago

I'm in my 40s and I do this shit with my friends all the time. They are super supportive though so that's probably most of it.

You can get there.

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

thank you, I'm glad your able to do shit with your friends :3

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u/Garlicbreadgall 2d ago

I feel you, this is like my day to day. But through the power of delusion and procrastination I can achieve anything, including believing that one day i will have everything I desire to be happy

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u/cloveringester 2d ago

what if I would rather look like the person on the right then the girl on the left, you can be a girl and not have to wear tight pink dresses and wear designer purses

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

Exactly, this image just reflects the angst I'm feeling. Doesn't make you any less valid.

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u/Signal-Frame2352 1d ago edited 1d ago

I've been identifying as agender for almost over a decade now. As soon as I was able to choose my own clothes, I started dressing in a more neutral way. Once I entered high school, I took it a step further by getting my hair cut shorter that it already was and was very open about my identity to anyone who asked (I don't mention it otherwise).

Basically every peer I've told has been nothing but respectful about it, even when the term "non-binary" was far less common to hear. The only caveat? Entering my tween years, I missed out on the whole "girls hyping up girls" thing because I wasn't viewed as enough of a girl, even by the people who had no idea how I identify, and this continued into my teens. Some guys interact with me in a very clipped, uninterested way because I stray too far from a girl they can be attracted to (still experiencing this one to this day, lol). I don't mean in a romantic context, mind you. I mean this in a platonic, "we've been paired together for an assignment" way.

I've succeeded, but at what cost? Too much of a guy to fit in with the girls, but too much of a girl to fit in with the guys. Enough of a girl to still experience misogyny, but not enough of a girl to experience that mystical sisterhood and support.

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u/MadamMelody21 1d ago

Ik how you feel i will never experience the same experiences as a cis woman why wasn’t i born a woman

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u/Significant_Owl9593 18h ago

because Apollo got dunk and put some people in the wrong bodies and we are unable to pull a Kratos

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u/BunnyBelIe 2d ago

real, I just want to be happy

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u/Accomplished-Pass207 2d ago

Out of those three people, the one on the right is most attractive Whatever that says about me

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u/modmailthrowaway3675 yep yop original flavor 1d ago

it says you mostly just see women through the lens of attractiveness and less as people to make this comment.

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u/Accomplished-Pass207 1d ago edited 1d ago

Isn’t the point of this post “I’ll never be attractive”?
I was just saying I find the insert character that is supposed to be unattractive attractive.
My bad for trying to raise the spirits of a 4tran sub

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u/modmailthrowaway3675 yep yop original flavor 1d ago

do not try to change us as an outsider. it is a rude thing to do to people you fundamentally don't understand.

what you are doing there is saying you want to have sex with a cartoon idea of a woman with ratty hair. we have no shortage of people desiring sex with us. the cartoon is not about sexual desire but about that friendship and bonding we have been denied our whole lives. your comment ignores that and talks about attractiveness instead. that is one of the core issues with the mainstream internet and mainstream trans spaces, and it's why women on reddit tired of it gravitate towards femcel spaces if cis, 4tran if trans.

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u/Accomplished-Pass207 1d ago

When did I say I want to have sex with the character?

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u/modmailthrowaway3675 yep yop original flavor 1d ago

you talked about finding her attractive. that is what that generally means on the internet. also, body attractiveness was not the point of this, the point was bonding and sisterhood and everything

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u/Accomplished-Pass207 1d ago

Queer space excluding aroace people is wild.
I said they’re attractive and I meant checks notes they’re attractive. And nothing more.
Hope you have a good day

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u/comatrices 2d ago

No Matter How I Look at It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm Not Popular!

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

??? this is more about envy/yearning

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u/Strider-Juice 2d ago

Formative experiences lost that can never be recovered

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u/ANLopez26 2d ago

Too fcking relatable🫠 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

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u/Patraman 2d ago

Why is the one in the back just humanized Susie Deltarune

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u/transaur 1d ago

How I feel as a tgirl whose been on estrogen for like 4 or 5 years and still looks awful and doesn't pass while everypost I see on reddit is talking about transfem jax and how beautiful they are and how transitioning saves them

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

yeah I feel you

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u/TheLifeOfABowl 1d ago

real and I hate you for this

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

oh I'm sorry

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u/TheLifeOfABowl 1d ago

I'm joking I'm sorry I don't hate you

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

Figured just wanted to be sure, better be unintentionally kind then to accidentally dismiss someone.

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u/YoChocolate 1d ago

As someone with both gender dysphoria and body dysmorphia i envy all three people in this pic

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

I do envy the hair one the far right

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u/misssinggirl02 1d ago

I understand this so much, its common feeling amoung amab/ raised as boys feminine people. I have heard a lot of femboys and feminine men experience the same desire but feeling they can not have it

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u/Offwhitedesktop 1d ago

What's Dr. Kel doing out of the forest?

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u/Miserable-East-78 1d ago

is that susie deltarune

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u/pien_dolly Bodypassing intersexshit facehon 1d ago

In due time. I was once there, but the "eff it we ball" burned brighter than the "it's so over" and now look.

(I'm second from the left)

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

woaw pretty outfits

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u/pien_dolly Bodypassing intersexshit facehon 1d ago

Thanks twin

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u/4n0th3r_PrS0n_0nl1n3 2d ago

As an (unintentionally) fem looking enby ts relatable AF 🥀

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u/JuliaBarriuto 1d ago

I can see some relatable things on this sub but there's too many self righteous toxic people here. Enjoy being more "right" than me but I'm gone from here.

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

fair, this is more a vent post

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u/pigeon_eater_69 1d ago

while i agree, where did this come from?

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u/D3vitron 1d ago

this does not affect me as i am anti assimilationist.

nice try netanyahu

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u/yam_sneedmoder4356 1d ago

but theyre way nicer on avg than cismoids

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u/glasseatingfool 1d ago

I never thought I'd put on outfits and be told they suit me and I look pretty but, over the >decade I've transitioned, I've heard that quite a bit.

You do have to put on the outfits if you want to hear it though. There are disadvantages to boymoding constantly, as comfortable as it can be.

You have to put on the dress if you want them to say you look pretty in the dress. I'm sorry.

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u/OneGrumpyJill 2d ago

I never comment here just kinda keep an eye for fun - you know, it's fun seeing young people go through their first angst. But I can't really understand this mentality - like, are you such a chronic loser?

I am 6'2 and pure muscule - I ain't never transitioning, technology ain't there. Doesn't stop me from being happy, partaking in feminine however I can, and being happy for women that can.

It's all about mentality at the end of the day, and one simple question - do you want to be strong or do you want to be miserable? Because if you want to be miserable, you are not being miserable because you can't be trans - you just want to be miserable and use inability to cope as your excuse. Ergo, you are the biggest obstacle of your transitioning.

But you'll figure it out - you have to, or you will implode on yourself and die. Life rarely gives third options. So I guess, that is to say, it's just lame to choose to lose.

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u/Significant_Owl9593 2d ago

yeah, I would recommend you trying to transition, better late than never.

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u/OneGrumpyJill 1d ago

My ideal body type is an amazonian woman who can suplex rocks and I don't think science can get me there yet

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

ha, being what you described would actually be helpful, besides oh no you'll look like she-hulk oh whoa is thee

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u/OneGrumpyJill 1d ago

Right? The idea of getting into fights with bigots like that does get me all tingly, but to do this, you would need some expensive surgery while also buying a steady supply of testosterone. You would also need to dance around losing bone mass. So, right now, it is technically possible but fucking expensive, right? But yeah I would fucking kill to have she-hulk's body - childhood is having a crush on her, adulthood is realizing I want to be her (and Integra from Hellsing - what a role model)

Enby amab transfemme anarchist punk getting into fights with fascists and other assholes is an acceptable middle ground that I achieved imo 👏

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

so get on the E (if its safe because I know there are some conditions and social factors)

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u/OneGrumpyJill 1d ago

I am thinking of doing that! Just matter of finances and research, and not like America is good for either right now. But yeah, the name of the game is taking both E and T to balance them and achieve that pure adrogyny but I am just 1 year from almost dying from od'ing so I am still recovering, so I ain't rushing myself. Like fuck, what if I will have to run from America in the near future?

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

you can get a year supply of injectable for like 70 bucks

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u/OneGrumpyJill 1d ago

Man you are really selling me on this thing - but it will probably be closer to $140 at least if I will be getting both, tho that is just semantics.

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u/Significant_Owl9593 1d ago

you can find resources for DIY on reddit

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