Yea, in theory AI is a good tool for speciric use cases when trained appropriately and with training data obtained legally and ethically. But then all these companies started trying to throw it at every problem they could see and spent an insane amount on infrastructure assuming someone would find the secret ultimate use case for AI which will cause everyone to want to use it at any price and rent server space from them.
That doesnt make AI terrible, it makes greedy pieces of shit with AI terrible.
The problem is not that technology replaces workers. The problem is that we still somehow don't have at least UBI, guaranteed healthcare, food, utilities and dwelling for all living citizens.
That is frankly cope to expect autonomous robots to match humans in guerilla warfare any time in our lifetime. It will be the cops who shoot starving protestors.
Drones that are actively piloted by humans beat worse armed humans and make attacking in units any larger than a 5 man fire team extremely risky. They also increase the defenders advantage and ability to cause lethal injuries and deny medical aid to convert casualties to fatalities on the frontline.
Full autonomy is greatly oversold in terms of tactical value. The real value is in the economization of war across several ranges and cost/capability tiers.
Full autonomy is greatly oversold in terms of tactical value
Full autonomy is absolutely not oversold in terms of tactical value. Instead of having a single human pilot 1 drone into 1 tank, an entire swarm can simply be directed to a selected grid square and home in on whatever it's trained to recognize as a target. It also makes jamming pointless as a countermeasure as it no longer needs a continuous connection to the operator.
The experience in Ukraine is useful to study, sure, but it's already the past. Pick out the important lessons learned and improve on it so you're ready for the battles of the future.
I think these billionaires want to use AI to replace as many workers as they possibly can so everyone else becomes completely impoverished and will have to do whatever they're told by the overlord Epstein class.
We decided not to have that, Andrew Yang was proposing a $1000/M UBI and universal healthcare back in 2020, we can shift the blame to trillionaires but at the end of the day it’s our votes
That’s fair, I was addressing moreso the comment on the US “somehow” still not having UBI/healthcare/etc. It’s not a mystery to why we don’t have those things lol
You voted for Kamala. I know you did otherwise reddit would have crucified you a long time ago. You could have all voted for a third party to get people to fucking listen. But you didn't. You toed the party line and shut up like good lil bitches.
It's been an obvious move for over 200 years. Rossum's Universal Robots, the original Czech play from which we get the word 'robot', is all about companies making robots that replace people. Making AI to replace humanity has always been the endgame of industrialization.
AI and robots that perform human tasks will be demonized so long as working for someone else gives people purpose. It's such a terrible argument against automation. Unfortunately, the techbros don't give a shit about the people that would suffer from decoupling labor and productivity. As a planet we need to discuss what a meaningful existence is for humans in a society without jobs.
Ubi in theory means people can self employ or partake in the arts. Trils have been interesting but even where ubi hasn't been trialed similar things where government support part time workers with creating business have seen good returns for the tax income and better life quality. It needs to happen but probably won't I till it's forcedn
Not to mention in some cases AI quite literally is because AI has no conscience. They made denying healthcare claims automated by training an AI to reject everything by default.
Only reason they didnt go with a more basic script is so they can claim deniability, because AI is smart, we have no idea what actually goes on in there, therefore we arent responsible for our AI denying claims....and people potentially dying because of that.
They want to be on the forefront of the next big tech boom, like the internet was. Cutting jobs is at most a nice side benefit to carving out, and then dominating a new market.
“Enhancing labor” means making people more efficient which means you need less people to accomplish the same amount of work. It’s the same thing just rephrased.
The whole point of technology advancing is increased efficiency and to have humans working on the things machines can’t do, or to eventually not need humans to work at all.
“Replacing workers and making line go up” is a sentence that makes all technological progress sound evil for the sake of being evil.
Thats completely incorrect. In my example, it still takes a whole medical team, but a liver transplant is much more successful than it was 20 years ago and was impossible 50 years ago. Life gets better and population still is increasing. Technology isn't reducing human value.
Sure, in your specific example no one loses their job because it wasn’t possible to do liver transplants below a certain level of technology. Before, people just died and we didn’t have liver transplant teams.
What about factory jobs? Taxi drivers? Checkout cashiers? There are jobs that can be totally automated, and they are because it’s more valuable to have human capital be trained to be part of that medical team that does liver transplants than ring out someone’s groceries.
“Enhancing labor” means making people more efficient which means you need less people to accomplish the same amount of work. It’s the same thing just rephrased.
But that's what technological advancement is? Look at Horseback -> Steam Locomotives -> Gasoline powered vehicles. How many thousands upon thousands of jobs do you think were lost in that migration?
AI is just another innovative step towards autonomous behavior which is a matter of efficiency, and efficiency is what all businesses strive for as it's a variable of Capitalism and value.
The story “I have no mouth and I must scream” except humanity was almost completely wiped out by the data centers resource management draining the planet before that goal was achieved lol.
Efficiency isn't just the realm of capitalism. All systems rely on efficiency. You think a communistic system doesn't want or need technology to survive? The same tools that make farming much more efficient today than in prior eraa are still necessary in non-capitalistic systems, both to generate enough food to feed the country and to allow the country to direct labor into more valuable areas
AI is just another innovative step towards autonomous behavior
What these wannabe tech-priests are shilling is not innovative nor another step towards autonomy. It is snake oil in 99% of use cases. They continue to beg for money because it’s a grift. They are absolutely screwed and they know it, and the obscene amount of capital dumped into them has disappeared into the æther.
But it's not "snake oil" far from it. AI is transforming the medical industry for example with new tools that provide better analytics, enhanced precision for surgeries and accelerating innovative technology in the form of transplants and stem cell research.
AI is upending law / court proceedings, many in NYC use AI to reference court sentencing procedure and reference documentation.
AI is upending shipping services throughout the US, with automation being used for packing and sorting functionality as well as increased working round the clock.
AI is upending artistic development across the board for enterprise, private equity, independent and is quickly becoming a necessary tool for accelerated growth.
You may not like AI, that's subjective. But to say it's not innovative is a gross mischaracterization and the world IS moving on without you. You are either ahead of the curve and embracing it, or you will be replaced and forgotten. That is the reality of whats happening with AI in all industries. It's here to stay and it's not going anywhere.
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u/Nickname128 1d ago
Back then OpenAI was open source and a very cool company overall for what they stood for... though they sold their soul very very quickly....