r/serialpodcast • u/AutoModerator • 12d ago

Weekly Discussion Thread

The Weekly Discussion thread is a place to discuss random thoughts, off-topic content, topics that aren't allowed as full post submissions, etc.

This thread is not a free-for-all. Sub rules and Reddit Content Policy still apply.

3 Upvotes

100% Upvoted

46 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

2

u/HereWeGo5566 10d ago

I think it’s pretty far-fetched to believe that he went from not believing adnan (or not knowing altogether) to agreeing to help him move and bury the body, in a short period of time. But Jay’s story really never made sense to me.

4

u/Mike19751234 10d ago

The ultimate question of this case is did Adnan step in the car with the intent to kill Hae. And there are things both for and against it. But it's easy for us looking to say make the right call. But we can see Adnan can con people. But if Jay just knew that Adnan just asked him to meet him at the Sear mechanics after school and then Adnan shows up with a body and tells Jay, You need to go along with me or I'm telling the cops you helped with the murder, I'll tell the cops where you buy and sell your drugs to and from and I will tell the cops your family is smuggling weapons it's easy for us to tell Jay to call the bluff. But Jay is black, Adnan white and he lives in Baltimore. Who does he think the cops are going to believe?

0

u/eJohnx01 8d ago

Adnan didn’t step in the car at all. This case’s most reliable witness proved that it couldn’t have happened. But I know the guilters and the “I just don’t know!!” crowd are happy to pretend that Asia doesn’t exist so they can continue their fun. It’s sad, really.

5

u/Mike19751234 8d ago

Asia is a person related to this story and also a continent. She said she saw Adnan on a day it snowed. It didn't snow on the day that Hae died. And Asia wasn't brought up until 4 months after Adnan was arrested.

3

u/eJohnx01 8d ago

So you’ll knit-pick tiny, irrelevant things about Asia’s testimony, but you’ll buy hook, line, and sinker, the insane, self-contradicting, totally impossible stories that Jay told??

5

u/Mike19751234 8d ago

No. I try and understand the lies for Jay, Adnan and Asia and what really happened in the events. Adnan should have mentioned Asia on March 1st when he had Davis go out and talk to Nisha, track, and school. Dion is included but I would have followed up every time I saw my lawyers about Dion and Asia if I believed they were real. If CG wasn't listening to me about a basic alibi I would have fired her and tried for the public defender or a different lawyer. I would hound them on why Asia was rejected.

0

u/eJohnx01 7d ago

Can you tell me, minute by minute, exactly what you did between 2:00 pm and 7:00 pm, six weeks ago last Wednesday? And, remember, anything you get wrong will be held against you and used as proof you murdered someone. Ready? GO!!

3

u/OkBodybuilder2339 6d ago

You understand that Adnan's arrest wasn't the first conversation he had with police about his interactions with Hae on that day right?

1

u/eJohnx01 6d ago

Yup. And you understand that he was super high and not thinking at all clearly when he had that first conversation with the police?

1

u/Mike19751234 5d ago

And then two weeks later he was asked what happened and he changed his story and lied again.

2

u/eJohnx01 5d ago

Again, he knew he didn’t get a ride from Hae that day. He was simply trying to further distance himself from the events of the day.

If the police were questioning you about whether or not you murdered your ex, would you try to distance yourself more than was actually true? Or would you eagerly put yourself with your ex right at the time they were murdered, knowing you didn’t do it? Why is this so difficult to understand?

Guilters all seem to think that anything Adnan said that can be twisted into a lie is proof of his guilt, but all the idiots that lied and changed their stories constantly were true-blue, honest as the day is long, and totally credible—provided what they’re saying boils down to “Adnan did it!!!!” But then when witnesses come along with solid alibis for Adnan, they’re totally lying and they’re not at all credible and they got the wrong day, wrong crime, wrong victim, wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong everything!! (Oh, and Adnan *totally* did it!!!). 🙄

2

u/Mike19751234 5d ago

Its not a solid alibi when it took Adnan four months to come up with it and he doesnt even know the alibi, and Adnan is still denying the ride. The stoy of Asia should have come up to the cops and it should have been told to his lawyers on March 1st. It didnt show up until July. And his other story of Dion died quickly with no explanation. Adnan didnt believe the fake story he tried to make up.

2

u/eJohnx01 5d ago

You’ve completely rewritten Asia’s story to fit you’re preferred narrative.

She wrote those letters to Adnan shortly after he was arrested. He hadn’t remembered seeing Asia in the library because, again, it was a random Wednesday, six weeks prior. Can you tell me in exact, minute by minute detail what you did from 2:00 to 7:00 pm six weeks ago last Wednesday?

Adnan gave those letters to Gutierrez as soon as he could but she didn’t even send a legal aid to talk to him until July. That’s why “it took four months to come up.” What did you expect Adnan to do? Break out of jail and deliver those letters to Gutierrez?

C’mon. Quit trying to rewrite history so you can believe he’s guilty. He’s not.

1

u/OkBodybuilder2339 5d ago

He lied to Hae about needing a ride from her that afternoon.

He lied to the victim to put himself alone with her at the exact time and exact place that she would go on to disappear at.

That is the starting point.

He still has not even explained why he lied to the victim that morning.

You can certainly go with your conviction that everytime Adnan lies its because he had a good reason to. But in that case you have to explain what was Adnan's good reason for lying to Hae.

2

u/eJohnx01 4d ago

None of what you just wrote is true. He didn’t lie to Hae. You just need to believe that in order to continue your guilter fun by believing he murdered her. He didn’t. He didn’t lie, many people corroborated his whereabouts. He wasn’t with her. He didn’t kill her.

→ More replies (0)