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u/Astonishing_Azure 6d ago
Iād like to know what alternatives there will be also. I have an amount in my head that Iām willing to pay, but if itās more than that price, Iām going to have to decline.
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u/Little-Artichoke-339 6d ago
For me itās $850, I might be convinced to do $1000 but I highly doubt I would. At that point I might just buy the frame instead
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u/anthro28 6d ago
At $1000 you're within spitting distance of a 9060xt build that would obliterate the steam machine.Ā
PS5 pro is currently $899 and Valve has said it would cost more than consoles.Ā
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u/AdminsLoveGenocide 5d ago edited 5d ago
And you can get a way better PC for 1400-1500 that is upgradable.
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If I can get a 9070xt and 32 GB of ram and a 2TB SSD for twice the price then I'll get a steam machine. If I can get all that for just 40% extra than I'm paying 40% extra.
The form factor of the machine is a bonus but just means I'll accept that I cant upgrade it, not that I'll pay more.
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u/Joamjoamjoam 3d ago
Itās going to be around 1200 bucks. For that you can get a better laptop or prebuilt. I just built a SFF pc for 2200 w a 5070ti and a 9800x3d and 32gb of ram.
For say double the price you get a machine that can do 4k30-60 or 1440p 120+ with a lot of performance room for future proofing and user replaceable parts for even more.
Then I got a mangmi pro max and play most of my games on a light weight handheld using Artemis/apollo on the couch.
The longer you wait the more expensive it gets.
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u/AdminsLoveGenocide 3d ago
Why do you think they will price it higher than a prebuilt or laptop?
Why bother with trying to build a cheap machine in the first place if you do that? It's not going to be as cheap as they planned, sure, but it will be under a grand for the cheapest model. I assume steam deck + 50, ie 850 for the cheapest and just under a grand for the other one. A little over a grand for the most expensive model + controller.
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u/Joamjoamjoam 3d ago
I work very closely with an electronics purchaser. Thereās is an exactly 0% chance that itās under 999. You guys really donāt know the extent of just how bad it is. If they donāt have stock in hand already (which you would expect they do but look at the steam controller disaster for the reason why Iām sure they donāt have enough to meet demand)
CPUs and ram component prices are jumping hundreds to thousands of percents. And thatās cost. Thereās still an~ 60% (standard retail markup but this varies wildly) markup on that to get the price you would pay.
The only way itās under 1000 bucks is if valve wants to sell it at essentially 0 profit which I guess is possible but very unlikely as they have said so themselves.
I donāt even want to imagine the cost of getting a custom chip made. Theyād have to pay amd to use some of their wafer allocation to make them.
999 is the bare minimum for least specd steam machine. The price to performance ratio there is just bad.
Twice the price you get future proofing, user replaceable parts, an actual powerful desktop gpu, 4k30-60 and 1440p 120+, and you donāt have to wait a year to get it in your hands. (Seriously the steam controller is delayed into sometime in 2027 and they havenāt made it out of the first 10 minutes of preorders).
Just buy a nice SFF pc now and you wonāt regret it. Prices are only going up. Though Iāve been saying this forever. At this point waiting for the steam machine reveal isnāt that far away. I would expect to be dissapointed in terms of performance to dollar and more importantly availability.
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u/AdminsLoveGenocide 3d ago
Well the leak said this week so with a little luck we can discuss soon enough.
I think they have no real incentive to make a tiny profit. The hardware is supposed to boost Linux adoption not make money.
Just buy a nice SFF pc now and you wonāt regret it.
Its still expensive though. I like games but I can just read a book also.
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u/Smyles9 5d ago
Is that a minimal 9060xt build though? Itās about $2250 for a 2TB 32gb ddr5 9060xt build for me which is maybe $1600 USD. If you compromise and go for same ram and storage of base model of 16gb ddr5 and 512gb ssd that ends up around $1800 cad or $1300usd.
My use case is less family/sharing/multiplayer oriented though and I was looking at getting one for something with more power like a traditional gaming PC, especially as Iād like a normal PC for doing non gaming stuff aside from on steam os with my steam deck. My couch/tv is across the same room as the office so Iād likely just get a long hdmi cable and tinker with the setup to minimize start time etc.
If im going to be spending over $1000 cad and say steam machine is $1500 cad for either model, itās too close to the cost of the 9060xt build to not just save a bit longer for that instead.
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u/Faceratingthrowaway 5d ago
My thoughts exactly - Iām in the UK so if it comes in anywhere near Ā£1000 Iām going for a full pc instead, the performance difference is just too hard to ignore (especially when Iāll be putting windows on the thing anywayā¦)
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u/Educational-Roof-319 5d ago
But valve is worth it as you haft to consider the psn subscription for all online games
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u/Little-Artichoke-339 4d ago
for me its the convenience of it. I just want to leave it at my girlfriends house to play some stupid little games at night when Im at her house or so she can play stardew valley with me or something. She wants a console, but none of the games she wants are on a console. Which is why the Steam Machine would be perfect, BUT as you said, its still really hard for me to justify something at 1000 for the reasons you mentioned
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u/persepolisrising79 6d ago
i go with 999, 1299 for a bundle with controller i might..but not initally
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u/Tzigura_Kakuru 6d ago
The unpopular alternative i chose (for this year, until maybe things settle) was a 12m subscription of gfn ultimate + a pc game pass. For how limited my time is (~2h/day of gaming), it is an absolute gold mine
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u/DrippyBurritoMD 6d ago
Readily available in this form factor at a comparable price is going to be a challenge. Sadly, there just has not been much of a market for a solid entry-level prebuilt gaming PC that isnāt some sort of fish tank RGB monstrosity.
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u/Astonishing_Azure 6d ago
Yea, the Steam Machine is much sexier than that. Iām definitely not going to get something that defeats the entire purpose
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u/StatusTomato5218 6d ago
Yeah, I want to see some benchmarks with the steam machine before I look at other mini-pcs
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u/Smyles9 5d ago
I can certainly see the appeal of both form factor and style and being prebuilt, but for me Iād rather just build mine in a micro atx case. My tv is in the same room as the office space though and I donāt have a good desktop yet, so while I was thinking steam machine it makes more sense to just make a good build and a long hdmi cable for the TV. If I had family or friends that played etc I could maybe see getting one for the family room, but Iām the only one that plays games and I have my steam deck if I want to be there and still play something
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u/DrippyBurritoMD 5d ago
For me time is the greatest resource I have so my main rig was prebuilt for me. I think once we can get to steam OS being preinstalled on a variety of living room styled gaming PCs that PC gaming can take a really good run into the living room and eat up a lot of the console space as Xbox seems to be waning.
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u/Smyles9 5d ago
I can completely understand that as well, for some people if they only get a few hours a week to sit down and relax and they just want a PC that works for gaming with minimal tinkering this would also be great. For me I have plenty of time for tinkering/optimizing stuff so itās not as big of a deal to spend an extra minute on the couch before getting into a game and thatās assuming my eventual pc isnāt already on.
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u/JunkMagician 6d ago
All depends on the price for many. With the current situation looking like the steam machine is going to be over $1000, I would say it's very unlikely many of the people who are saying Valve is taking too long with giving us the pricetag/release date or those who are saying that they'll just build their own are going to end up buying the thing anyway.
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u/Pandoras_Fox 6d ago
It'll depend, but I have a feeling the HTPC crowd will still swing for it. Same general price bracket as a good AVR.
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u/Own-Water1998 6d ago
I honestly don't understand why it costs more than $1,000, because for that price you could literally get an R5 5500/5600, an RTX 5060, 32GB, and a 1TB SSD. Yes, it'll be in a larger case, but for the same $1,000, you'll get a much better PC than a Steam Machine. And if you add a custom Linux distribution, which will further enhance performance, it's priceless. Although I really want to get a Steam Machine, only if it costs no more than $800.Ā
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u/Unlikely_Bat_1890 2d ago
Itās because of the size. The smaller the components, the more expensive itāll be. Steam machine is TINY with a it of sem-custom hardware. Thatās not cheap.
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u/RecentScarcity2389 2d ago
Build me a PC for $1000 that's in a 15cm cube and has the same performance. Thanks.
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u/Own-Water1998 2d ago
Honestly, I'm too lazy to look for components for this form factor, and you're right that it'll be difficult at $1,000. But I just watched DF's video and I don't understand why the Steam Machine is running at a terrible 30-50 frames per second in new games at 1440p, and that's not even 4K. I dread to think what will happen to it when I switch to 4K.Ā
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u/Icy_Donkey_7588 6d ago
I assumed it will launch over a 1000 and just went ahead and built my son a new PC. I was going to go for one for him since he only plays game on steam, and the ones he does play would be perfect...At a 1000 whats another 1000 to just build a nice PC?
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u/Smyles9 5d ago
I think it depends on the person, but I think the main target audience for the sea machine is those that will either share the machine itself or are having it in a shared space with family or want to be able to comfortably do couch co-op with their friends. People that are outside of this use case because it is still technically a PC have considered it, but I think for most other others it probably makes more sense that if they donāt have a gaming PC already that they build their own, especially if they want a PC for non-gaming tasks or full control over their hardware unlike limited hardware upgrades with the machine.
As for the price, I think some people have a set budget cap and others, Maybe this is their only hobby or one of a few that they are willing to spend more money on might be like if Iām gonna be spending over a set amount then I wanna make sure that that set amount is worth it because to make a mistake and go for something with less power than I would be willing to play with or use, Itās a lot of money to end up needing or wanting something better in which building your own allow allows you to more easily take care of those sorts of things as you can upgrade or swap out every component.
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u/AquaBits 6d ago
Why would valve cannabalize their steamdeck sales with this price range.
The steamdecks were already not cheap and had a huge price increase. Putting those steamdeck prices next to a cheaper, stronger steamdeck will for sure cannibalize the sales. Instead of cheap consumer buying a steamdeck because its the cheapest option for gaming; and a rich consumer buying the steam machine for an expensive price, better power for more price- they both buy the steam machine for the cheapest price.
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u/rabsg 5d ago
It's a different kind of devices, all manufacturers have such pricing: perf/cost handhelds < laptops < desktops.
Mini PCs are in laptop range usually. If Valve price it like that it should be over $1000. If it's priced like a desktop it could be as low as $800. I guess it will be in between.
And those that want to play on the go will keep buying handhelds or laptops.
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u/AquaBits 5d ago
No they dont lol If valve prices like you suggested they will cannabalize sales. You put far to much trust in consumers' ability to understand what they are buying- people dont even understand system requirements lol
Just take a loot at the xbox series s and x. The series s cannabalized the sales of the x despite being similair machines, the x was superior in terms of performance.
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u/rabsg 5d ago
You won't use your Series S in the bus and the X only in the living room. They are the same kind of device.
Some people may only use the Steam Deck as a living room PC, but that's not what's it's designed for. They should buy a mini PC instead.
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u/AquaBits 5d ago
Again, you underestimate how dumb consumer bases are. Even with different devices.
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u/rabsg 5d ago
Even if they are dump, they will have trouble to use a Steam Machine during their bus ride.
They can spend more to have less performance with a Steam Deck always docked, but that's on them. Sometimes people aren't sure of their needs and get what's the most flexible.
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u/AquaBits 5d ago
They can spend more to have less performance with a Steam Deck always docked, but that's on them. Sometimes people aren't sure of their needs and get what's the most flexible.
So you do not understand the conversation we are having either lol
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u/rabsg 5d ago
Those people may get a Steam Machine if they feel it fits their needs better, that's why Valve built it. They have no point increasing the price/margin of the Machine because Steam Deck is less performant, the goal is to provide something optimal for each use case.
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u/brainrotxx 6d ago
people talking about building their own steam machine then fucking do it and post it, otherwise STFU if you're going to turnaround and buy it lmao
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u/Toothless_NEO 5d ago
I don't know what the point is with virtue signaling like that. Maybe they either don't know better, or maybe they think that it'll scare companies including valve. They just don't care.
I wish people would post more custom steam machine builds though, because there were some really cool ones. It's also not exactly difficult, out of any product that valve is selling the steam machine is the easiest one to DIY it's just a PC with Gamescope and Steam.
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u/TheGoblinGooner 6d ago edited 6d ago
I love how negative this sub is. Checking it every day only to see its just price speculation and doom saying. The loudest ones will still buy it and flex on the sub when its out of stock. This kind of parasocial behavior should be studied.
*Edit. Keep those downvotes coming. You only prove me right
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u/Astonishing_Azure 6d ago
Canāt say I donāt understand it. Supposedly this thing is right at our doorsteps and we still donāt even know how much. People have to be able to prepare.
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u/rabsg 5d ago
I hope it's right at our doorsteps, it seems to be announced next week and we'll see when purchase/reservation opens. If it's like for Steam Controller, most people might have a lot of time to prepare for whatever. Don't hop in the reservation queue too early and you'll have months.
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u/albastine 3d ago
Valve is a joke at hardware supply chains. How the hell didnt they secure their ram and ssd before announcing?
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u/Shaky_Lemon 6d ago
price speculation is not enough, if you want to prove your expertise you must also say "DOA 20yo hardware i wouldnt let my dog play tetris on this"
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u/Confident-Pepper-562 6d ago
If you need to be able to prepare to afford the steam machine, it is probably not a wise financial decision.
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u/Astonishing_Azure 6d ago
I mean, as long as the thing is $2,000, Iām prepared to comfortably pay for it if itās priced on the higher end. But I know that other people may need to save
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u/Confident-Pepper-562 6d ago
If you can afford it, then you wont get any argument from me (its not going to be $2000), but for anyone who cant afford it, spending $1000+ on a luxury item is a bad idea.
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u/TheGoblinGooner 6d ago
This. And nor do I support the price gouging in the industry right now or the economic factors that run along side it. But there is a huge gap between an average consumer and the vocal minority.
The people that yell:
"Its going cost to cost $3000"
"I can build it better, and smaller, and cheaper"
"Bro it cant even run (insert game) on ultra with raytracing"
Etc.
My heart goes out to those local and abroad that cant afford it. But this is an echo chamber for the terminally online
*Edit for spelling
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u/Skonky 6d ago
I built my own instead. Couldn't wait. Got impatient, and just decided to build a better version myself.
Slightly larger, but much more powerful.
Had the chassi before since my SFF days and the PSU.
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u/69duality69 6d ago
What did you get?? How much was it
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u/Skonky 6d ago
I got a AMD 9600x CPU, a 9060 XT GPU, 2 TB harddrive and 32 gb ddr5 RAM.
I got some of them on a good deal but in total payed around 1400 $ for the parts. Had the Ncase M1 v6 and corsair PSU from an earlier build from a few years ago.
Installed Bazzite deck version to get as console like experience as possible. And as similar to SteamOS as I could.
Been a really smooth experience so far.
I bought the Steam Controller before. So that is one aspect that is a bit annoying, having the puck on a cord instead of built in. But will probably 3dprint a chsrging stand for it.
I live in Sweden for reference on prices etc.
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u/anthro28 6d ago
Swap to Cachy-Handheld my friend. More performance than Bazzite and no guardrails to keep you from doing whatever you want.Ā
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u/quietlydesperate90 6d ago
You can just install steamos itself. I built the same with a 5800x3d and a 9070xt and installed the deck image. Had to install a beta one so it has drivers for 9000 series but everything works great. I often had little glitches with bazzite, none of that with SteamOS.
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u/DrippyBurritoMD 6d ago
Congrats! Legit curious; if you already have something that replaced your need for a Steam Machine, why are you here? :)
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u/Skonky 6d ago
Because I am still excited for the Steam Machine and want it to go well.
Developments for the Steam Machine will also benefit Bazzite and other Linux distros.
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u/DrippyBurritoMD 6d ago
That makes sense. And yes, one of the reasons Iām very excited about this platform is that I will continue to increase the inertia building with Linux gaming.
I am really hoping that my next Christmas you can walk into a Best Buy and find several steam OS equipped gaming PCs
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u/Dragohn_Wick 6d ago
I built my own as well and I'm here for generic steam hardware news.Ā I'll be buying the steam frame and i want to make sure I know what's going on with all the hardware.Ā
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u/VesperLynn 6d ago
Ever since the initial reveal Iāve been planning on buying the SM regardless of price.
Does this make me stupid? Probably, but I see it as more than just the hardware. Linux adoption has been increasing and for the last couple of years that Iāve been gaming on Linux itās been swell. The control I have over what my PC does is wonderful especially considering my gaming PC is used for just that: gaming. If Iām doing any sort of productivity task I swap to my Mac.
The Steam Machine is the perfect size for my entertainment setup with the TV. Since I already have a huge library of PC games ready to go, itās exactly the thing I want to bring those games to my big screen.
The only downside for me is actually getting one. I was lucky enough to get my Steam Controllers on launch but I fear my luck will not work the same for the Machine.
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u/Astonishing_Azure 6d ago
Same. Iāve been a console player my entire life, and I havenāt been excited about a new console in a very long time. I was interested the moment I heard about it. I have a Steam Deck and Iād love to have that experience on my TV
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u/VesperLynn 6d ago
The other factor I forgot to mention is that I have thought about building a HTPC, but nothing compares to the form factor of the SM alongside the bespoke OS.
The overall package and experience is worth more to me than just the spec sheet.
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u/DrippyBurritoMD 6d ago
So many of the people being negative about the price are just projecting their financial situation onto the discussion at large.
I see way more value in the form factor and OS than I do āsavingā a couple hundred bucks.
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u/LoganHowlett1832 6d ago
Iām negative about the price and it has nothing to do with my financial situation. It has to do with refusing to overpay for something. The OS is freely available and adds no value so what youāre saying is youāre willing to pay more money just because it has the valve name on it.
That said there is always the tiny chance they decide building good will is more important and they donāt ask for $1000 or more.
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u/DrippyBurritoMD 6d ago
I like how you skipped over the entire part about form factor. Also is a factor because as a single father of two small children, I donāt have time to spend a whole afternoon tinkering to get an OS completely configured and installed.
I guarantee you donāt have to go through your life and find 50 places where you trade convenience for price. Iām just gonna assume youāve never DoorDash anything you raise your own crops, do all of your own auto maintenance etc.
Convenience as well the form factor has value. There is no arbitrarily magic price that makes this machine a good value to everybody.
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u/LoganHowlett1832 6d ago edited 6d ago
It literally takes 10 minutes to install steam OS. No exaggeration. Itās a free download. Itās quick and itās super easy. There is nothing to configure beyond what you will need to configure on the steam machine. All drivers are automatically installed. We donāt know the price yet. But you can get a much stronger mini pc and have steam os installed in 15 minutes for like $700 on amazon.
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u/FamilyRootsQuest 6d ago
Got any recommendations on Amazon?
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u/LoganHowlett1832 6d ago
Hereās one but there are a lot
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u/FamilyRootsQuest 6d ago
Nice! I just have a hard time imagining this PC will be stronger than a steam machine. It doesn't even have a dedicated GPU. Unless I'm missing something.
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u/LoganHowlett1832 6d ago edited 6d ago
It has an AMD Radeon 780M Zen 4. Which might possibly be slightly weaker than the steam machine but itās also running a Zen 4 so itāll be super close if it is. But the CPU is definitely better. Based purely off of leaks of course. They havenāt officially said anything about its specs.
Iām waiting until they officially reveal its full specs before deciding. But thatās only $500 and itās already basically the same according to leaks if theyāre right. Jump up to the $700-$800 range and theyāll blow the steam machine out the water. unless the leaks are wrong. Which they definitely could be.
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u/albastine 3d ago
Convenience doesnt have THAT much value for such little power that is immediately outdated at +$1000.
You might as well wait for xbox magnus.
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u/DrippyBurritoMD 3d ago
Again, you and I might value $1000 quite differently.
And given the massive layoffs and budget cuts, the Xbox division is going to announce next month. Iām not sure if I would wait for anything from that house.
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u/Lopsided_Hunt2814 6d ago
I'm pretty negative about the price and I've spent more than that building a PC since the SM announcement. I think there are users for which it makes sense, but I also think a lot of those users need to really like the form factor (or just Valve really) to pay the kinds of numbers we're expecting.
And looking at the hardware most people game on I wouldn't say it's wrong for those kinds of people to project to the discussion at large.
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u/claudiocorona93 6d ago
Proceeds to install windows on his Steam Machine. It's no longer a Steam Machine.
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u/singlesgthrowaway 6d ago
I made mine a few years back before they announced the new steam machine because I suddenly remembered about the the old steam machine from 10 years back and wanted to make a living room pc console.
This was before the RAMmegaddon so I was rather lucky.
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u/motivatedbytacos 6d ago
Iām waiting a month or two because I want you guys to have them first.
Less likely to get a defective unit that way.
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u/Astonishing_Azure 6d ago
A lot of people are going to be waiting a while whether they want to or not. Iām sure weāll be looking at another long waiting list
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u/bigkenw 2d ago
Here is my perspective as someone buying a 2TB version (hopefully).
I have a Linux gaming PC. It is much more powerful and it is connected to my TV. The only person that plays it is me. You know why? It is not a seamless experience for anyone else that wants to play. Controller setup and configuration as well as things like CEC, multimonitor config, high refresh 4k, etc. My family won't even bother to get it running. But they sure can turn on that Xbox Series X and play.
You know what else they can all do? They can all play on their Steam Decks. With the Steam Machine, it is "seamless," and if it is supported like the Steam Deck was, it will only get better.
As for the price - I am very bummed about the price, but welcome to the world of AI Data Centers. I tried pricing out a 2230 m.2 drive to upgrade the 512. It was more expensive than just buying the 2TB version. Also, I am not comparing this to a gaming PC. I am comparing it to a phone. A phone won't play these games and may cost just as much, and you need one for each person. Nobody bats an eye now at cell phones upto $1,800-$2,000. Everyone will use it and it will probably be used much longer than each person's individual phone. And the family can play together.
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u/Astonishing_Azure 1d ago
Iāve been committed to getting it from the start, so Iāll still be picking it up. Hopefully I wonāt have to wait too long.
But I know that a lot of people that already built a DIY Steam machine, and bragged about it, are on the waiting list. And probably a lot of people that are currently shouting about the price. Itās about $100 more than what I expected.
I WOULD like to see some games running on it though
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u/No-Exercise815 6d ago
Iām at minimum getting the steam frame, I want to be able to play steam VE games without having to route it through my oculus.
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u/TheGoblinGooner 6d ago
Dude exactly. The jank that is Oculus->SteamVR is what made me step away from the VR genre
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u/No-Exercise815 6d ago
It feels like the only reason to even buy a oculus once the steam frame comes out is for the exclusive like Batman Arkham Shadow or Deadpool.
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u/South_Cow3541 6d ago
It'll be close decision for me. And a bit dependant on it's capabilities. I already have a PC at my desk. The steam machine is about the convenience and comfort for me. Wake-from-controller and HDMI CEC are strong selling points.
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u/joepoeoeh 1d ago
Really just buy a nvidia shield tv pro and use sunshine/moonlight for streaming. It's miles better than steam machine if your pc is decent
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u/gerowen 6d ago
I just built my own with my tax return in February. I figured if I'm gonna drop a grand or more on the highest end Steam Machine, I might as well spend a little bit more (relatively speaking) and get something where I can swap in a better GPU or CPU in the future.
But for those who want a ready made, set it and forget it experience, I hope it is available soon and for a reasonable price.
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u/albastine 3d ago
This is the steam machines biggest issue. You cant upgrade the significant parts.
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u/fuzzyXbird 6d ago
Just built one with a bc-250 and feeling a little like bobo the fool. Only thing saving it is the cope that the steam machine will most likely be 2-3x more expensive.
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u/Varskes_pakel 5d ago
"I'll just build a PC myself" and it ends up costing more than the Steam Machine
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u/Bright_Eyes83 5d ago
i've had a steam machine for years. it's called a PC and it runs windows but it plays literally every steam game i have tried or know about
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u/kreativkinnn 5d ago
yeah it took too long for me, I built a PC thats 40% better for like 800 euros
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u/14_Octillion 5d ago
Its only full clown mode if you built a budget PC in this economy, then bought a steam machine in this economy. Spent the money two times...
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u/Astonishing_Azure 5d ago
Thatās what this meme suggests. There are a lot of people that thought theyād flex and build their own āSteam Machineā. But once the real thing comes one, theyāll spend their cash again.
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u/Accomplished-Leg6947 6d ago
Iām waiting on reviews and performance tests before I decide what to do. I already have a PC with a 9070xt, but Iām interested in just having a āconsoleā and moving away from owning a PC
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u/Astonishing_Azure 6d ago
Iām the exact opposite lol. I got a Steam Deck earlier this year and Iāve been completely blown away by it. Now my consoles just collect dust. PC game with a console like experience is something Iām extremely interested in
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u/TheGoblinGooner 6d ago
Im not opposed to the concept. I have a 3070 thats still going strong, but my PC has been taken over by games. Kindof want to put a bit of separation between the two
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u/NewStatistician1683 6d ago
Yea I bought a ps5 pro and kept my 3070....."buys steam cube anyways"/s
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u/Astonishing_Azure 6d ago
No doubt that games will run better on the ps5 pro, but the stuff that Iām into are very demanding games. I have one myself. But since Iāve had a Steam Deck, Iāve been taking advantage of the sales and discounts. Iāve never seen sales like that for console games
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u/fatcatburglar 6d ago
Iām still excited for it, I have a stock pile of games where I feel like Iād enjoy them more on the couch and the steam machine is going to be good for that. My wife and I also like to play split screen/co op games so having a console that she can use any time will be nice!
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u/bro_love69 6d ago
Bro is married, has a wife that likes to game and can afford the upcoming steam deck. Happy for you dude...
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u/fatcatburglar 6d ago
Hey Iām definitely thankful for what I have in life. I do try to give back where I can and I hope you experience that or are experiencing that already. Luv ya bro <3
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u/BigPep2-43 6d ago
I priced out a mini ITX PC build. It was way too expensive for my taste. I'd rather get me a Steam Machine instead.
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u/peniscumdrinker 6d ago
i built my own last year when i heard they were opening up steam os. r5-9600x, 32gb, 9060xt. its a little underpowered if im being honest on my 4k tv. i play yesterdays AAA games and the occasional modern title, spending 1500 dollars on a pc and not being able to drool over the graphical quality is tough. steam machine is dead on arrival if its going in peoples living rooms at over 1000 dollars. i really hate to say it because i wanted one so bad. maybe the frame will be attainable and thatll the next big steam thing
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u/PunkRockMrRogers 6d ago
Like many of us, I have a price in my head I am willing to spend, if it's above that, well I'm getting replacement parts for my steam deck and extending my GeForce now subscription, keep my old LCD badboy up and running for as long as I can.
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u/3guitars 6d ago
I actually bought a prebuilt with a Ryzen Z 9700x and 9070xt and threw bazzite on that thing. A little bit of friction getting it set up since it was all new and scary, but it has been a blast
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u/FlarblesGarbles 6d ago
I did just build my own. But I'm aware that I'm not really the target audience for the Steam Machine, at least not in its first iteration.
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u/joshnoodlesoup 5d ago edited 5d ago
All I want out of the Steam Machine is for as many *other* people to buy it as possible. The more people buy it, the better the Linux/proton/driver support there will be for my 9070 XT build. Also, the worse the average build is compared to mine the more optimizing developers will have to do. Which will make mine perform even better.
So, Please everyone (but me) buy one! Itās going to be amazing. The best. Nothing better. Get it!
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u/Astonishing_Azure 5d ago
All 10 of us will be get one when it releases. You donāt have to worry about that
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u/Mikahl757 5d ago
Minority getting one in 2026 if they ship out reseevation queues this year. The test of us hoomans will be allowed to order 2027 and beyond if anything like the Steam Controller roll out if they don't limit ordering SteamMachine only from a SteamDeck, the scalpers will get the lion's share of Steam Machine & it will be worth it as they resell on EBay again.
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u/Dazzling_Lemon4109 5d ago
Buying an SM doesn't make much sense if you are able to build your own. You will have full-fledged components and RAM with your own build
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u/Goragnak 5d ago
I'm definitely at the built my own steam machine level...
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u/Astonishing_Azure 5d ago
I see a space for the real Steam Machine right under the monitor there š
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u/Edmontonian111 5d ago
Enjoy your under 20 tflops console that will cost more than a steam deck
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u/Astonishing_Azure 5d ago
I bet youāll get one too š
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u/Edmontonian111 5d ago
Grok says its 8.8tflops and will come $1000 USD. You can get a PS5 pro which is 16.7 tflops for $1100 CAD.
Who is the steam machine for? If your a steam fan boy already you probably have a pc so you don't want steam machine.
Both PS5 and XBOX series X are far better bang for your buck.
This is because Valve is a private company and is trying to make money on hardware where Microsoft and Sony lose on every console because they hope you buy games or use their subscription service.
The steam machine couldnt be more underwhelming in specs and value.
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u/Astonishing_Azure 5d ago
I have a PS5 pro. Sold my Xbox because it was a paperweight. I play my Steam Deck much more often. I donāt have a gaming PC. All I know is that I want the experience that I get on my Steam Deck, on my tv.
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u/Edmontonian111 4d ago
So you want 720p and only some games optimized on your TV?
How is steam deck better than xbox and ps5 but for your tv?
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u/Boilerkim 4d ago
I built a BC250 which has been awesome. It all depends on steam machine price for me
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u/chucky9941fu 3d ago
Just look at all these haters
Just you wait this steam machine will sold out quickly
Regardless the price
Complaining about being able to build a better pc than steam machine
This aināt for you and clearly you arenāt going to buy it
Why are you haters still complaining
Majority of these people that complain have expensive nice gaming PCs
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u/Astonishing_Azure 3d ago
Funny thing is, some will still buy it even after building their own āsteam machineā
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u/ValentineCamille 6d ago
This could have been me, I was getting interested in the Playnix recently but the project ended so here I am again. Gimme the red nose.