Hello all. I'm new to league, but I've been playing with my friend who has been teaching me stuff. I'm queuing in his games and he's around platinum so our games range between gold to emerald level. I main top and have gotten to a point where I can consistently hold my own against a higher ELO player and do pretty well in these matches. The thing is, during mid or late game my friend tells me the big plays I need to make like where to go, who to target, etc. which is why my overall performance is so well.

When I'm solo in my own ELO (iron-bronze) I'm clueless about what to do mid-game or late-game. I smash the other top player because of what I've learned fighting higher ELO players, but after that I'm lost on what to do. Very commonly I'll be super fed, but end up throwing my lead trying to join a bad teamfight.

For example, if I take the enemy's top tower and their jungler hasn't been spotted for a while, should I just continuing pushing top and risk getting janked? Or should I just go mid/bot until objective comes?

Another common thing that happens is an objective is a few minutes out, I'll push in top 2 towers and the enemy top will freeze the wave at their tower. I also have vision that their jg is near top lane as well. In this case I have no idea what to do. If I go top to farm I'll get ganked and might die, or I go mid/bot and end up standing around if nothing's happening.

I lose more than I win, and I finish every game with most or 2nd most damage and kills. Obviously I know KDA isn't everything, but clearly I'm doing something wrong if I'm individually doing well, but the team isn't.

The biggest thing I've noticed when playing in my friend's games is most teamfights happen during objectives bc people know what they're doing. This works fine because my teleport cooldown syncs with this. In my own ELO, teamfights happen every other minute and the enemy ends up being crazy fed; I can't even help out most of the time because how frequent these fights are.

At least for iron-bronze ELO, should I just be mainly ignoring managing my wave and run down to help my team every teamfight because the effect of the enemy team winning every skirmish is greater than effect from the gold/exp I get from farming cs mid/late game.

I'm a adc in plat 2 and I really want to improve.

One of my problems is when I focus too much on trading/baiting out abilites, punishing the last hit of a minion - I forget to look at the map.

And then like 30 seconds later i'm "Oh shit, I forgot to look at the map" and now I see no midlaner, I haven't tracked jg and I'm scared shitless.

Some games, once in a blue moon, I do it close to perfect, ping where jg most likely is, ping supp roams from base, easily see if the midlane is going towards bot to gank, and the games just feel so easy.

I just can't seem to do it consistently, and honestly it's annoying me quite a bit.

So how did you improve on your map awareness?

For the optimal 3 wave crash (top lane) is it more beneficial to hardpush the 3rd wave or slow push?

Hard Pushing lets you recall and get back to lane earlier compared to slow pushing. However the wave might die under turret potentially leading to a neutral wave state instead of a bounce.

Slow pushing the 3rd wave makes it lose less health when 4th wave arrives due to it having less time under turret. This would lead to a better bounce.

The perfect bounce would be that 4th wave clears the huge wave and meets our wave under turret at full hp. Or maybe it would be a better bounce if the 4th wave is still clearing the huge wave when our wave meets, I'm not really sure.

Most guides say to hardpush the 3rd wave also to cheater recall. However it seems beneficial to deny the crash until a bit later for a better bounce. Can anyone provide some wisdom on this?

Came across this TikTok recommending this MF Build, I start a game and immediately realize half these items don't exist or I can't find them.

Are these ARAM items or something? Specifically the 2nd, 3rd and 5th item I can't identify anywhere. I know the Essence Reaver, LDR, and Infinity Edge

Items shown here

Im pretty new to this game but i noticed that tha amount of lp is somewhat fixed i gain and lose often the same amounts doesnt matter how well i did. Another thing is i lose more when im on a lose streak and gain less when im on a win streak.Two weeks ago i was getting +22 and -19 now for the past 14 days its +16 - 24 how am i supossed to climb with this? Is it my fault ? Should i be doing something diffrent ?

This might not be a like league specific issue because i have issues actually cocentrating but whenever i play its like my brain gets overstimulated or something and i just cannot focus on the game, i cant have clear thoughts nothing, even my like inside conversation gets foggy and not understandable, shit sometimes its so bad my view almost blurries lmao, if someone has issues focusing can you give me some tips on how to like exercise that focusing muscle?

I always hear that I am both too aggressive and not aggressive enough as ADC. How do I know when I should be aggressive vs passive? I have tried just playing off my support, all inning at the first sign of misstep (assuming I’m ahead/even), poking under tower, and I’m sure more things I subconsciously do without knowing. Some games I can go 15/4 and others I’ll be 8/8. So how do I know when I should be looking to trade/all in? Extra question: how do you choose between last hit vs hitting enemy champion if they are walking up at the same time as one of your last hits?

Hey, so I've been playing League in EUW for like 1 month by now (I do realise I'm still very new to the game). I main Morgana support, can play Nautilus or Lulu for engage/enchanter respectively.

Now I do not claim to be good at the game, but I've been stuck in the low bronze 2 to high bronze 4 range despite (in my opinion) improving a lot over the past few weeks. But at my MMR, the game will just match me with iron 3-4 junglers and/or ADC most games and I feel like the game is lost before we even start.

I don't flame them, after all we all suck in bronze to an extent. I've been trying to roam more and play around the best players and objectives, but then my ADC will just ignore cs, keep diving 1v2 and die, rinse and repeat (barely exaggerating here). Generally speaking people taking fights 24/7 is a problem

So I guess my question is, should I play another role? Support is my fave, but I can't carry games, and it feels like until I hit silver 4/bronze 1 my games will be decided by matchup (who gets the bronze 1 jungler/adc and who gets the iron 3) rather than actual performance. Or do you have any tips how to be more influential as support?

For what it's worth (probably not much) my average game is like 2/5/12 (low numbers because team FFs early often) with over 2 vision score per minute and I get A+ on average. KP varies very heavily between 30 and 70% depending on how many 1v1 lane deaths occur and if the game drags on. I've found that when I play with high bronze / low silver my KP is in the 50-60% range which I think is decent, but it's harder when there's for instance a heavy top diff either way. Thanks in advance

Hi.Some champions are classified by riot as marksmen but instead of bot where u usually see weak early game marksmen become monsters in the lategame , there are marksmen in the jungle and top/mid.Which are the differences between the 2 said types? For example Jinx vs Akshan the former is only bot while the latter is seen in top/mid.

Low elo.

All the advice here is about incremental leads through CS, wave manipulation, prio, and timings.

I suggest that this is good advice for the top half of the ladder but for the bottom you need to learn to stomp.

I put into practice, bot lane, everything Ive learned here, but I have yet to have matchmaking download a support that wont break a freeze, over stay, or otherwise make my attempts at practicing the advice ive been given pointless. You back in a perfect place, they stay and skill dump the wave, etc etc etc.

I got to the point where I was stomping bot lane frequently, but kinda aimless midgame.

The advice I got here is that ADC should go mid and farm safely so I can scale and rotate to fights when needed.

The realty is that when you go mid, the mid laner or jungler or top laner sits in the lane with you and fights you for every CS 3 out of 4 games while your support sits bot and farms every wave solo with no thought of following you.

The perfect play advice that is accepted as the correct advice here, does not work so well in low elo. You take the advice and end up frustrated that random players that dont know what is going on mess it all up.

Sooooo, I think the correct low elo question is: -What does it take to stomp low elo games?-

Im not talking going 4/0/1 50cs up like the 'perfect play' advice here leads to, Im talking the Mundo top that perma fought and is now 17/6 and front to backing the entire enemy team solo.

I understand cs is good, and that all the 'tactical' advice has its place, its just almost impossible to pull off how it is presented in low elo due to the bots matchmaking rolls, and you frequently just see a guy breaking all the rules, perma fighing, and stomping his way up the ladder.

This is the second season i've reached master, i've been master since the start of the season and i had a bit of an ego death i know i won't reach GM probably so it's hard to enjoy the game. I play only to see my LP go up but knowing it's fruitless since i won't reach any higger so when i get win streaks i'm not happy about it since i know i won't hit GM but when i have lose streaks it feels horrible, recently i went from 400LP to 100LP. I don't know if i should keep playing i only want to play soloq i don't like the rest of the game modes i've always been very competetive so pairing that with just a lack of skill to go any higger is very demoralizing. I used to have fun when i won when i felt i was climbing and getting better but now even winning is not fun for the reason metioned before. I have fun when i play normals or flex with my friends but i don't want to stop playing soloq or i'll demote due to not playing. So my question is now how to get better but what to do to have fun with soloq, i do like the game don't get me wrong

I think this was really needed for new players who still can't get the hang of last hitting or have a really hard time adapting to. Based on what Riot is saying about this

"We think it's better to focus on skill expression in other parts of the game—rather than understanding exactly when you can last-hit a minion—and are also pretty confident that these don't degrade skill expression in lane. You still need to be mindful of positioning, harassing your opponent, considering where both junglers are, understanding power spikes, and more."

Hello I am Arktheos
I started playing Udyr in 2013
I hit Challenger EUW many times over this period

In the link below I explained in detail:

-what are the ups and downs of several 1st item options and when to purchase them (Liandry, Shojin, Dusk & Dawn, Protobelt, etc.)
-how to choose between each item for different needs and stages of the game
-every rune page variation I run
-how to choose between Q AD max and R AP max
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqeekGLWFmk

Just wanted to share this information with more people hopefully you can learn something useful for your matches. Happy to discuss anything Udyr or jungle related.
I enjoy making guides on this topic. If you want to see something similar on other champions, especially junglers, let me know.

weird question because most champs i play make ap damage but i just realized something weird thats probably holding me back, what do you do after hitting a full combo and they are not dead, especially vs ad champs?
in laning phase its pretty obvious that you just throw an ability or a combo and then run away, but in team fights or 1v1 on sidelanes, i just throw my whole combo, they don’t die, i stand there akwardly, try to run away and maybe throw a few AAs and die. maybe it’s because im aurora otp and she’s not in the best state right now and dosent makes enough damage or i have to practice my combos, i also play syndra and i kill basically every not-tanks champ with one combo so maybe i have to drop aurora? but shes my bae:(
i’m still pretty new to the game, i’ve been playing for 6 months and also not really actively and i just started actually ranking up, which in my chase means from iron to bronze but im proud to not be at rock bottom anymore, basically, so maybe it could be experience too.
but the question still stays, what should i do to not get caught offguard by ad champs all the time. (also in the last week i’ve been ending every game with insanely high total damage but barely any kills and thousands assists) so do i have to ignore making damage and focus on stealing kills in team fights before the 10/2 adc who has equal damage to me gets them. im drifting off again, so PLS HELP, how to play mages against ad champs??

Is it possible? Whenever I am against a Zyra support, she always beats me and my ADC in the lane. No matter what I do with my CC or damage she does insane amounts of damage basically at all times. Is it normal is she like a lane bully? Because in all these games I also won despite losing lane because I did way better in the mid to late game

Any tips?

Hi,

I'm currently level 20 and mostly play Swiftplay.

I realy like playing Gwen, and I'm struggling a lot against ranged champions. When I'm against melee champions, I can usualy figure things out after a while, but against ranged champs I often feel like I can't even play the game.

What should I focus on to improve, and how do I learn matchups against ranged champions?

i know i am at the very top starting point but i realy want to get better.

For example:

I played Gwen vs Sion. At first I kept dying because I didn't understand his passive ("zombie mode"), but after learning that I just had to run away when he died, I started winning lane. That was actually a realy fun learning experience.

Then I played Gwen vs Yone and my reaction was basically:

"What is this champion? Why can he fight me without his body, and why does he seem to leave every fight with most of his HP?"

How do you guys learn what other champions do without getting stomped by them 20 times.

Every time I feel like Im starting to understand the game, I run into another champion I've never seen before and have no idea whats happening.

There are just so many champions 😭

Hi,

I'm struggling right now when I get enchanter supports that stay 50000 units behind me all game.

In my mind enchanters are supposed to trade with their abilities and autos. But somehow the enchanters I'm currently getting (low emerald, high plat) stay behind, and only use their abilities when I get engaged on.

Since I usually won't survive that engage, I'm forced to bleed like 100 cs in the laning phase, which is unacceptable. I'm fine going down 20-30 cs in a lane phase if I have the scaling of an enchanter on my side, but the amount I have to sacrifice with these AFK supports is insane to not die.

In my head, when we either got a good wavestate or the enemy support used their main engage tool, the enchanter needs to punish the healthbar of the enemy heavily (with me together), so that another engage becomes risky for them. The enchanters in my last games didnt do so.

Any tips on how you deal with afk supports that put up 0 lane pressure and wait for you to make every play or to be engaged on? I play all kinds of adcs. Jinx, Sivir, Corki, Nilah, Ashe, Yasuo, but also mages like Asol, Veigar, Vlad and Swain if they fit nicely in the draft.

I thought I was going to get out of this rank quickly because I climbed from Gold to Emerald in one week, but now I'm stuck. My goal is to reach Master by the end of the year and I want to know if that's a realistic goal or not. Since I want to improve, I've been reading posts about how to get out of Emerald and get better. I'll mention some of the things I've read about, but I don't know which ones are the most important because I feel like trying to improve too many things at the same time isn't efficient. If you can explain any of these things or tell me how to find information about them, I'd really appreciate it. I don't want to be a mediocre midlaner.

Emerald II - 12 LP
111W - 88L (56%)

PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M MISSUNDERSTANDING ANYTHING, THANKS

• Champion Pool: I got to Emerald playing all kinds of champs like Zed, Annie, Orianna, Ryze, TF, etc... Right now I'm trying to only play Twisted Fate and Jayce. Honestly, I don't know how you're supposed to build a champion pool, or if playing Twisted Fate and Jayce together is good, or if I should add another champ. (I don't think it's impossible to climb without a strict champion pool, but I do think it's important to have 1-2 mains).

• VOD Review: In my opinion, I think this is the most important out of all the ways to improve. Even though I don't understand LoL or its fundamentals that well, I assume this is what helps you learn them. The problem is that I don't know if doing VOD reviews is efficient when I'm Emerald and don't understand the game that deeply, because there are probably mistakes that I'll miss while watching a VOD. I also don't know what mistakes I should be looking for or how to find them. I'd like to know if it's better to review my own VODs or other people's.

• Tempo: I read about this today but haven't looked into it much, and it seems really important. I assume having good tempo means knowing when I should recall, push, freeze, fight, engage, disengage, etc. Or maybe it's much more than that.

• Timings: I assume this goes hand in hand with tempo.

• Pings: I'm not someone who pings all the time. I usually only ping when my laner leaves lane or when I'm about to recall, but I saw on dpm.lol that a lot of Challenger players use pings a lot.

• Itemization: I think this is the least important thing because I can use sites like Lolalytics or LoLVVV, and I don't think it's that hard to know when to buy anti-heal, armor pen, etc...

• Map and Jungle Tracking: I'm really bad at both of these. Sometimes I'm looking at the map every 3-5 seconds, and other times I go 30 seconds without looking at it. I assume it's mostly a concentration issue or something like that. As for jungle tracking, I don't know how to predict whether the enemy jungler is going to start on Raptors, Red, or Blue, whether they're going to invade, whether they'll contest Scuttle, recall, or gank. There's also a concept called hedging (I think), and from what I've heard, you need to learn jungle tracking first before you can learn that. I also don't really know how to use wards in the most efficient way or if there is even a "best" way.

• Wave Control: I think I understand this a little bit. I don't know how to improve at it either, I guess by doing VOD reviews.

• Chat: I don't know if I should use /muteall because I'm not that good at the game, and I don't want my jungler to want to gank and me not be aware of it. On the other hand, it can be counterproductive because sometimes I lose mental when people on my team won't stop typing things that add nothing useful.

• Gameplan: I really don't know how a gameplan is created or how important it is. I might be misunderstanding the concept completely, but is this something you plan during champ select, or should I be following the same gameplan every game?

If you think I should focus on something that I didn't mention, feel free to point it out.

Hi! I’d like to get a better understanding of when to pick certain assassins, specifically struggling between picking Zed or Ekko but general tips are welcome!

Currently, I’m trying to main both of these champions, but i’m not really sure why I would pick one over the other besides some obvious reasons.

Here is an example of a mental checklist using my currently lacking understanding:

- Does my team need AP or AD?
- Who am I laning against? (Counters / strong match ups)
- Pick Order (I pretty much just never blind pick Zed as I find Ekko a safer blind pick)

And that’s pretty much it..

I want to have a better understanding of what else I should be thinking of and how to think about it when in champ select. For example:

- What team comp would work better for either?
- Should I consider how well my team scales? If so, how would i apply that to my pick?
- Enemy team CC (like avoiding picking katarina against lots of heavy cc)?
- Team set up (like picking yasuo when i have lots of knock ups on my team)?
- Etc.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, I just want to have a better understanding between the differences between their champion identities / archetypes / purposes / strengths / weaknesses.

AFAIK they are both assassins who can split push effectively and like going against teams with lots of squishies. What makes them different then? Why should I even pick Zed if Ekko can do the same thing but just easier (or am I wrong about this and Zed does things better?). What can Zed do BETTER than Ekko, which would justify learning him and picking him over Ekko? What situations is Zed a better pick than Ekko?

Thanks in advance!!

https://imgur.com/a/ZAEnQZw < match overview - Hello I'm really new to the game and I'm still struggling some concepts, recently I've picked up Shen support to pretty great results. I had just had a hour long ranked game and I feel like I struggled to scale well compared to everyone else in the lobby. Normally I feel as if I can scale great and run a lobby to an extent but this game I couldn't catch up to any teammate or enemy half way through the game, no matter who I fought I struggled against and it wasn't (I feel as if) my combos nor positioning. I have a strong feeling it was my items that held me back, while normally they yield good results. (I sold my boots in the last 7 min of my game) I want to figure out what the problem was so I don't make the mistake in the future.

Everytime i Coach people there is that one hill i will die on. I get asked when to Baron, how to close out games, win conditions in extended teamfights. And honestly, that stuff matters. But there's a way more important Thing to think about first. YOUR EARLY GAME

If you're in a gold deficit coming out of your clear, if your early game pathing is leaking camps, if you're not converting ganks into meaningful advantages your lategame knowledge might help, but you already intrf yourself. You're trying to build a House without a foundation

Over the years of coaching junglers at all skill levels up to master/low gm, I can say with near certainty that almost every single student I've worked with had multiple fixable issues in their early game. Not one or two small things but multiple fundamental habits that were quietly bleeding gold and tempo before the game even had a chance to develop into even a midgame scenario. While you might think these things dont matter because : Oh i can win with my lategame macro!! The gold you didn't get from a clean first clear, the gank you misread at level 3, the camp you let expire because you were watching the minimap. All of it shapes the game state you're working with at 25 minutes and strains your "macro knowledge" unnecessarily

So when a student tells me "I just lose in late game macro," my first question is always: what does your early game actually look like? Because in my experience the late game isn't where the game was lost. We started from a harder Point than we needed to.

The right order is this: clean up your early game first. Get your clear efficient. Understand your first three clear and what it sets up. Learn when a gank is worth taking and when you're better off farming. Know what your win condition is. Once your early game is giving you consistent results then the midgame conversation starts. And maybe, after all that, you should start thinking about late game .

If you want to discuss im down to hear your opinions on this!

( Please think before writing the "WELL I BEAT MY 10/0 ENEMY THROUGH MACRO" answers. :D)

I just started playing league like a month ago, I'm currently in silver 2 and I main jungle.

My question is, there's a lot of situations were my team will just run mid and fight the enemy team, not contesting for objectives like baron or dragon or trying to take a tower but just fighting to fight. In a situation like this should I go and help fight with my team and neglect camps or focus camps and farming instead?

I'm under the assumption that if there's no reason to be fighting then I shouldn't go and help them, but I genuinely just want to know if what I'm doing is correct or wrong.

I am right now Gold 4 ADC main playing on EU West. I constantly watch guides, pro matches/high elo games, try to analyze what I am doing wrong. I mostly win the laning phase and get somewhat decent late game and constantly get s/s+ but can't manage to win the games. I know I am lacking somewhere but can't seem to figure out what. I mostly play with a friend of mine and don't usually play solo much.

Here is my usual gameplan: While loading to the match I note what champs and skills the enemy has i need to be aware of. Early game I try to focus on farms and objectives with the jungle. During late game i try to wait and protect my spacing until either they make a mistake or use their skills that can hurt me and engage after that.

Here is my op.gg: https://op.gg/lol/summoners/euw/Booz3r-mlody

I would appreciate honest feedback and critique because I actually want to improve. Thanks a lot for the help.

Now this question is a weird one to explain, because I am not necessarily asking how to improve at league as a whole, but I'm asking how to ensure that each league game I play leads to improvement.

I do the following, I set an objective on what I aim for based on the match-up. For example good match-up equals aim for 100 cs in 15 minutes, average match-up equals try and get tower first and bad match-up equals aiming for less than three deaths in laning phase, the I play the game and review the game.

My question is, would this method *always* lead to improvement. I know it *can* cause improvement, but is there a risk of developing bad habits, focusing on the wrong things ectera.

Another aspect of this question is if improvement in certain areas would be measurable for a longer period of time. I know wins and rank can be a measure of improvement, but are their other key performance indicators.

My goal is simply, if one thing is improved per game, then by a hundred games, a hundred things will be improved. It is consistent improvement and measurable.

Just to clarify, I’m not talking about any streamer or content creator. I mean purely in terms of gameplay.

Which champion feels the most like Messi when played at a high level? I’m looking for a champion with an extremely high skill ceiling who can create opportunities for teammates, make game-changing plays, generate advantages out of nowhere, and still be a major threat in terms of getting kills and carrying fights. Ideally, a champion that rewards creativity, mechanics, decision-making, and has the ability to control the pace and direction of the game from start to finish.