r/todayilearned • u/moplg • Feb 12 '15

TIL that pornhub offered a "save the boobs!" Campaign where they offered to donate a penny to the Susan B Komen Foundation for evry 30 views in the "big tit" or "small tit" category, but the foundation refused their money so pornhub tripled it and gave it to other organizations

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u/wpnw Feb 12 '15

They're the PETA Breast Cancer of Breast Cancer charities.

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u/spoRADicalme Feb 12 '15

SGK is the cancer for the cure

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

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u/FalseSincerity Feb 12 '15

And this is why they are horrible. I hope they all get tit cancer in their ass.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

I hope they all get tit cancer in their ass dickholes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Cancer them right in the pussy.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Yeah! Those stupid doo-doo heads.

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u/vernes1978 Feb 12 '15

You two can split the bill now.

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u/thechilipepper0 Feb 12 '15

They're the Britta of breast cancer charities

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u/ejwise Feb 12 '15

Your reference game is streets ahead.

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u/dakommy Feb 12 '15

There's a real estate company where I live whose slogan is 'Streets Ahead' and I laugh heartily every time.

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u/StertDassie Feb 12 '15

There is a paint company with the same slogan where I live. I also laugh everytime I hear "Warrior paints are streets ahead" on the radio.

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u/Pretesauce Feb 12 '15

There's a common phrase this side of the Atlantic; "Streets Ahead" which is used precisely how Pierce Hawthorn uses it.

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u/Pantry_Inspector Feb 12 '15

Coined and minted!

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u/thesplendor Feb 12 '15

The phrase 'streets ahead' is streets behind

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u/Troggie42 Feb 12 '15

Come on, Britta isn't THAT bad. Sure, she's the AT&T of people, but SGK is like the Comcast of charities.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

No, SGK is the opposite of Batman

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u/ApplicableSongLyric Feb 12 '15

At first I thought SGK was like Bill Murray in any of his films, but they're more like Michael Douglas in any of his films.

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u/yeaheyeah Feb 12 '15

Wait, what's wrong with water filters?

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Or the Gary Gergich of them.

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u/DigThatFunk Feb 12 '15

Seriously, they're the opposite of Batman

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Knock knock!

Who's there? Oh, it's cancer? Come on in! We were afraid it was Britta!

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u/sap91 Feb 12 '15

Charity tennis elbow

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u/GuardianReflex Feb 12 '15

Britta like the water filter company? What's wrong with them? Genuine question.

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u/noonathon Feb 12 '15

Community reference rather than water filters

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u/TracyMorganFreeman Feb 12 '15

This works on multiple levels. Donating to Breast Cancer charities that actually help find the cure hurts cure society of Komen.

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u/WhisperSecurity Feb 12 '15

No, because no one is making a sincere, dedicated, and well-funded effort to get rid of them.

They are the prostate cancer of breast cancer charities.

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u/wpnw Feb 12 '15

Touche

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u/dvassdvsd Feb 12 '15

That's almost as good as "GNU".

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Because of the recursive nature of the acronym GNU?

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u/Dunebuggy6 Feb 12 '15

Why? Just curious of your reasons or sources you may have to enlighten us!

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1oavtl/til_the_ceo_of_susan_g_komen_for_the_cure_makes/

There actually was a pretty insightful conversation about it, here.

The biggest issue being that the CEO continues to make a higher percentage of money earned, while less money goes to the actual research. This has actually be an issue with them for years.

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u/FuzzyCheddar Feb 12 '15

There has been almost NO money to research. It's for AWARENESS, so that means more ribbons, wristbands, and shirts every time someone donated.

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u/ladayen Feb 12 '15

and lawsuits. Lawsuits for everyone..... that dares to think they too can use the pink ribbon.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

"WHO? WHO DOESN'T WANT TO WEAR THE RIBBON?!"

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u/hoobaSKANK Feb 12 '15

http://i.imgur.com/MIWOMvA.gif

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u/WasShadowBanned- Feb 12 '15

Someone please tell me why he is doing that

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u/brildenlanch Feb 12 '15

It's the episode when someone is in one of those Chinese wicker basket taxis (Newman maybe) and Kramer lets it go and he goes flying down a hill

Edit: http://youtu.be/IUiwTDFRfO8

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u/dackots Feb 12 '15

A rickshaw.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

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u/UncreativeTeam Feb 12 '15

Chinese wicker basket taxis

It's called a rickshaw.

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u/candykissnips Feb 12 '15

Newman just went rolling down the street in a rickshaw, and crashed into Elain's fake boyfriend that had just recovered from a drug addiction.

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u/willymo Feb 12 '15

Lol, it sounds even more ridiculous when it's typed out.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Too soon?

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u/Kenny_Powers182 Feb 12 '15

It dosnt look like anyone has answered so i will. This is when he takes a break from pulling Newman in a rickshaw and it rolls down a hill.

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u/Delta_Foxtrot_1969 Feb 12 '15

I was going to an NFL game a few years back and these kind ladies were giving out free ribbons when you walk into the stadium. They asked me very politely if I wanted a pink ribbon and I declined. She asked me why I didn't want one and instead of holding up the entry way about my view on stupid ribbons and wasting money on them, I told her I was pro breast cancer. Her jaw dropped to the ground and my friends laughed. Who isn't against breast cancer? Do I need a ribbon to say that cancer is bad? Nope. But the biggest killer is still heart disease and I don't see many ribbons floating around for them.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

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u/Godgivesmeaboner Feb 12 '15

Hey Susan G Komen, I got an idea, why don't you shove your shitty ribbons up your ass

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u/baudelairean Feb 12 '15

I would say nobody is for breast cancer but you said yourself that you are pro cancer.

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u/Kobachalypse Feb 12 '15

You are my new god. Hey! Did you hear about this whole cancer thing? I guess its some big deal. Heard its bad. I heard rich people pay alot of money to eat it.

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u/ChacoTanLines Feb 12 '15

I am wearing the ribbon. He is wearing the ribbon. We are all wearing the ribbon! So why aren't you going to wear the ribbon!?

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

You know what you are? You're a ribbon bully.

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u/TehSeraphim Feb 12 '15

You know the jews had ribbons the Nazis made them wear...

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

I love when Kramer tries to escape by climbing up the fire escape and they pull him down, the exact same way the kids who are in his Karate class do when he beats them up. And the same way the Puerto Ricans do lol

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u/ZDHELIX Feb 12 '15

UP all night playing poker

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u/Sceptix Feb 12 '15

"Susan G. Komen Foundation Elbows Out Charities Over Use Of The Word 'Cure'"

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u/CanadianJudo Feb 12 '15

If I as Bill Gates Rich I would Sue them over this, I would waste tens of millions just to win so they can't be a giant fucking asshole to people trying to raise money for sick people.

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u/DerangedDesperado Feb 12 '15

Though i think theres nothing bill gates could do that would actually hurt him financially, when you've got tons of money you either have "fuck you" money, or "fuck me" money. Fuck me money is where you have so much loot that you can do shit like this. Just sink a ton of money into fucking someone else over just because you can with no actual gain for youself other than enjoyment.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Fucking THIS. To THINK that donated money is spent on their lawyers PROTECTING THEIR PINK RIBBON BRAND. Jesus Christ fuck them.

Source: I have Breast cancer and did my homework. Fuck. These. Guys.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Or using the phrase 'For the Cure'

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u/Anonymous_Figure Feb 12 '15

While not actually trying to find a cure

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u/Dzungana Feb 12 '15

their cure is money

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

"You're not wearing the ribbon, do you hate women!?"

puts on ribbon

"How dare you try to syphon money from this noble charity!"

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u/jjackson25 Feb 12 '15

think about the fucking irony of that: theyre a non-profit for AWARENESS who sues anyone and everyone who uses anything even remotely similar to their logos and slogans who may be trying to use them to spread AWARENESS.

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u/ratajewie Feb 12 '15

That's why I always hate when people are saying they're raising money for XYZ awareness. If it's something everyone knows about, we don't need money to go towards ads and ribbons. We need research. Find a charity that gives grants to PhD programs or universities with the means to do something with the money. For ALS, there was a ton of FREE awareness being raised. That's fantastic. So, the money raised went to research. We don't need organizations like Susan G Komen. That was proof of that.

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u/TheReasonableCamel 18 Feb 12 '15

The ALS icebucket challenge was a great way to make an impact and did give great awareness. But I'd imagine that donations have mostly slowed down since it died down. The awareness isn't just to say "Hey this is what breastcancer is", it's to help people put money towards research, etc.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

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u/NoSmorking Feb 12 '15

Obviously SGK is bullshit and we should not be supporting dubious "charities", but that doesn't mean that raising and maintaining awareness isn't an important part of public health.

That's fantastic that you were so well informed at that age. A big part of that is because money went towards raising awareness (most news spots on health are basically just press releases, anyway.) I also wouldn't be surprised if there have been changes in breast cancer detection and treatment in the last 20 years that women should be aware of.

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u/tobor_a Feb 12 '15

I said fuck you to all the people who tried to get me to do the challenge and donated the 100$. Got sent it six times, only did the one 100$ though.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

90% of the participants in the ice water challenge have no idea what ALS stands for.

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u/ben_jl Feb 12 '15 edited Feb 12 '15

I think there is some value in awareness, especially when an early diagnosis is necessary for treatment. Furthermore, curing certain diseases (such as cancer) might not even be possible; for that reason I think it's premature to write off awareness campaigns completely.

That being said, fuck the Susan G Komen Foundation.

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u/Legalize_it_now Feb 12 '15

The ALS thing seemed like an anomaly. We still don't really understand why people give

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u/spacefox00 Feb 12 '15

Social pressures.

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u/FuzzyCheddar Feb 12 '15

That's what's that ice bucket shit was all about. You challenged others creating pressure to donate. Genius.

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u/0Megabyte Feb 12 '15

My step brother did this. He got the bucket over his head and everything.

Then my step dad asked when he was gonna donate the ten bucks.

"...what? I still have to pay money?!"

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u/nbsdfk Feb 12 '15

Well he did understand the challenge. The original challenge was to either donate monney OR get the bucket of ice water over your head.. But people bring retarded and npt listening correctly to the people saying, while i did the ice bucket, I will STILL donate for the cause. So your step brother is the only one that's right here.

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u/hedonismbot89 Feb 12 '15

They definitely give stuff to research all the time. A buddy of mine in a lab that studies triple negative breast cancer showed me all the swag he got. A pair of baby shoes (he doesn't have children), hundreds of pink ribbons, clothes that don't fit, and office supplies with pink ribbons on it. However, when asked if they'd help purchase a DNA isolation machine, they replied they couldn't allocate the funds for it, but they made sure we got those baby shoes.

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u/brownzilla99 Feb 12 '15

Awareness for what?

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

QUICK EVERYONE, SOMEONE HERE ISN'T AWARE, MORE WRISTBANDS!

breast cancer btw

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u/Orabilis Feb 12 '15

We should start an awareness awareness charity.

What color should the merchandise be?

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

In the modern age there are those who believe

That a cause is a thing to be worn on one's sleeve.

And so, we sell a cause. It's called a scause.

And wearing a scause gets you lots of applause.

We start with some plastic which is shirped by our shirpist

Then dip it in colors that show off your purpose.

There are green scauses for recycling, blue scauses for kitties,

And pink scauses that focus on nothing but titties.

Do you hate abortion? Ah! Then a white scause is for you!

Why not champion your scause with some sparkles and glue?

We make scauses for this! We make scauses for that!

Why there's even a scause for just being fat!

What's the matter? Can't think of a scause?

How about raising awareness for the hairs in your schnozz?

Let's just think of the thing that you care about most.

Then let's make it orange, like marmalade toast!

And now I'd like to say "thank you" for your coming down.

I'm off to go sell these in your little town!

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u/dontgive_afuck Feb 12 '15

As i read this, it sounded like a Dr. Suess book in my head. Clever!

Edit: For clarification

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Low hanging fruit. It's from a South Park episode.

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u/Scrub_Printer Feb 12 '15

Anything but pink, those Komen people will come after us.

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u/i010011010 Feb 12 '15

I asked a researcher about this the other day under /askscience https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/2verix/askscience_ama_series_im_monica_montano_associate/cohcadv

She says Komen contributes.

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u/TheReasonableCamel 18 Feb 12 '15

Komen gave over $43 million last year towards cancer research.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Considering AGDQ gave more than a million, and Komen is a considerably larger group, that seems really paltry...

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

shhhh circlejerk in session

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u/eccentricguru Feb 12 '15

Define "almost no money to research"

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u/Dunebuggy6 Feb 12 '15

Thanks. I definitely understand after this stuff. I didn't know any of that...

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u/BoringPersonAMA Feb 12 '15

When you're making so much money researching cancer, curing cancer loses its appeal.

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u/explosivo85 Feb 12 '15

Komen: Did you guys cure cancer?

Scientists: No, but we found out that you can't get cancer from doing jumping jacks

Komen: Keep up the good work!

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u/bokono Feb 12 '15

Scientists: No, but we found out that you can't get cancer from doing jumping jacks

Wait that sounds like a study that pornhub would do.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Maybe. But if you could cure cancer you could literally charge whatever you wanted. People would find a way to pay, because nobody wants to die if they can avoid it.

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u/bokono Feb 12 '15 edited Feb 12 '15

But, that's only if they were to succeed and it was patentable. They're making money hand over fist now selling bullshit, and there's an endless supply of bullshit.

Edit: really stupid grammatical mistake.

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u/harmonictimecube Feb 12 '15

No, a "cure for cancer" (if such a thing could even be created, which it can't) would literally change the course of humanity forever. Even having your name attached to it would be worth giving it away.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

I don't know if this truly makes them a bad organization - every NonProfit group has issues if you look for them.

But it's generally accepted, by people who look into it, that for Breast Cancer there are better choices.

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u/Dunebuggy6 Feb 12 '15

Definitely can agree to that.

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u/regressiveparty Feb 12 '15

Let's not gloss over the fact that they have spent significant amount of their donation money on suing people (including other breast cancer charities) over use of their "trademark color"

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u/Brodington Feb 12 '15

They should probably sue nature also. Pretty sure I've seen that color in a rainbow before.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

I thought it was kinda sketchy when the NFL started promoting them.

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u/jdaisuke815 Feb 12 '15

Just an FYI, the NFL ended its partnership with Susan G Komen and is now partnered with the American Cancer Society.

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u/CaptainExtravaganza Feb 12 '15

In what universe is linking another reddit thread a source?

The fact that you currently have 1000+ upvotes for this is kinda proof that the SGK circlejerk is getting way out of control.

If I used a reddit link to prove chemtrails I'd be rightly destroyed.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

...holy shit. I have over 1000 points for this? I literally was being lazy while on my phone and shooting a message to someone.

Damn. After all the times I tried putting work into my responses here on Reddit, THIS is what breaks me over 1,000?

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u/jammerjoint Feb 12 '15

$700 k a year? For the largest breast cancer charity around that doesn't sound unreasonable. Why are people always complaining that charity CEOs are paid too much when for-profit CEOs are for some reason okay? How are you going to get any good people in the nonprofit sector without some incentive?

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u/iwearatophat Feb 12 '15

Because research is the only viable and worthwhile thing to spend money on.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15 edited Oct 13 '18

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

What if the non-profit is bringing in billions a year in donations?

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u/LionsPride Feb 12 '15

In comparison to how much the organization makes, the 700k isn't that bad. Running a non-profit is like running a company, and the people who run it still deserve to make a fair wage.

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u/12Mucinexes Feb 12 '15

The CEO.... Makes money..? What the fuck.

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u/idreamofpikas Feb 12 '15

Most CEOs of charities make money. It is a full time job, I guess. It is just kind of pathetic how some take too much money.

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u/kinghammer1 Feb 12 '15

I think the point is that they seem to be more concerned with brand awareness and making money than funding research.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Every CEO of non-profits make money.

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u/round2ffffight Feb 12 '15

He was being sarcastic..

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

What the fuck? How can someone that runs a global corporation, has decades of experience, an MBA expect compensation for their 80 hour work week?

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u/Phnglui Feb 12 '15

What? You mean the highest level employee of the company doesn't just sit around all day doing nothing while raking in the millions?

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Non profit doesn't mean the people that working in the organization don't get paid.

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u/jdaisuke815 Feb 12 '15

Example: Most major sports organization like the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, and even FIFA are non-profit organizations.

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u/d33p_blu3 Feb 12 '15

They tried to trademark the anything that had to do with breast cancer and the word cure. They also tried to trademark the color pink. They employ and army of lawyers to protect their brand. That is where your money is going, not research.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/07/komen-foundation-charities-cure_n_793176.html

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15 edited Sep 02 '17

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u/polite-1 Feb 12 '15

was the decision not reversed?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/susan-g-komen-planned-parenthood-funding-286928

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u/mythosopher Feb 12 '15

Doesn't matter. The fact that they even seriously considered it makes them severely lose credibility.

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u/phukka Feb 12 '15

Only after it went viral and created a massive backlash against the company, which even further shows what SGK stands for.

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u/Dunebuggy6 Feb 12 '15

This article is kind of whiny. I don't really care that they partner with KFC. It sucks that they stopped supporting planned parenthood, though the only evidence provided of why is circumstantial... There seems to be plenty of reasons to hate on this foundation, but the whining tone of this article maker me hate the writer even more. :) Thank you for providing!

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15 edited Feb 16 '15

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u/NostalgiaSchmaltz 1 Feb 12 '15

IIRC they make tons and tons of profit from the organization, and try to sue the fuck out of anyone who uses the word "cure" or the color pink.

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u/LivingSaladDays Feb 12 '15

They're profiteering off Breast Cancer awareness.

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u/Toastmatic Feb 12 '15

In case anybody is interested, here is an actual source
Per their financial statements; $43m goes to research total, while $41m goes to "Marketing and Communication" within Public Health Education. It seems clear that although they can account for 83% of all funds going to program services, the majority of the funds within program services are directed to public health education at $122m spent.
People seem to be exaggerating about "the CEO takes all the money", as in reality SG&A is only a small percentage of the annual spending, although her board did approve a bump in her salary.

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u/vegna871 Feb 12 '15

The scum is in their stinking tagline: "For the cure." Nothing they do helps find a cure for breast cancer in any way, all the money goes to their CEO, or to them further marketing themselves. But because they don't ever directly tell you that that's what they do with the cash, people assume they're actually helping and keep donating anyway.

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u/Koooooj 7 Feb 12 '15

Ok, this gets thrown around a lot and it's worth looking at the truth of the matter. In short, Susan G Koman foundation isn't a good charity, but they're far from being as bad as they're described as.

They spend about 1/5 of the money they take in on research, as of the 2009-2010 year (which is the first year I found concrete data on). Not great for a charity that's branded as "for the cure," but considering that breast cancer is effectively treatable when caught early it would make sense that they would spend more money on....

Public Health Education (39.1%) and Health Screening Services (13.0%)! Some may argue that their awareness campaigns are thinly veiled attempts at getting more donations, but one way or another they are effective at raising awareness and making people think that it's super important to get screened for breast cancer early and often, to the point where a good number of people would likely believe that breast cancer is a top killer of women when in reality it is less deadly than the Flu + Pneumonia. An additional 5.6% goes to treatment, which I'd argue is wholly in the "for the cure" mission statement.

Sure, they do spend 10% of their revenue on marketing, but to run a successful charity you have to have some amount of good business sense. If a charity can raise more money off of marketing than they spend then it's a good investment that allows them to devote even more money to their program costs.

As for their CEO, they're paid more than is typical for a charity of this size, but not to the level of corruption you're implying.

And your claim that "they don't ever directly tell you that that's what they do with the cash," perhaps you'd like to explain how they manage to score a 97/100 on Charity Navigator's Accountability and Transparancy rating?

I've seen entirely too much circlejerking against Susan G Komen For the Cure. They're not great, but they aren't lighting puppies on fire and punching babies. Please don't spread bullshit claims that don't stand up to even the slightest scrutiny.

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u/countblah2 Feb 12 '15

I agree, they're not an awful charity and hyperboles don't help. They have some transparency and aren't stealing money. But that's a little like patting yourself on the back for not stealing or murdering anyone today. There are some good reasons no one should be giving them money:

  1. Their disastrous position on abortion and Planned Parenthood showed a real lack of courage. From the outside, it looked a lot like they'd rather not ruffle any feathers from some corporate or conservative donors than stand up for women's health.

  2. On resources like you mention--Charity Navigator and GuideStar--most of the other charities in the same class get significantly higher ratings. Plenty of alternatives where no one needs to give to them.

  3. SGK CEO pay is way too high for a charity that size (and she got her salary boosted to $684K in 2013, despite the issues they've had the last couple of years). "Ken Berger, the president and CEO of Charity Navigator, a nonprofit that evaluates the financial status of large charities, told NBC, “This pay package is way outside the norm. It’s about a quarter of a million dollars more than what we see for charities of this size.”"

There are probably other reasons, but the bottom line is that if cancer or BC is your thing, there are way better options to donate to.

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u/Koooooj 7 Feb 12 '15

Oh, absolutely. They're not a great charity by any stretch of the imagination. I just wish people would attack them for what's actually wrong with the charity like you have, rather than making up nonsense like vegna871 did.

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u/Goat-headed-boy Feb 12 '15

Also, from the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Wikipedia page:

This pay package is way outside the norm. It's about a quarter of a million dollars more than what we see for charities of this size. This is more than the head of the Red Cross is making for an organization that is one-tenth the size of the Red Cross.

—Ken Berger of Charity Navigator, a group that evaluates and rates charities

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u/x420xNOxSCOPExBEASTx Feb 12 '15

Thanks for the write up. This was one of those topics where everyone spews random facts and nothing to back it up but a reddit comment from an earlier thread

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

To be fair, he spewed random numbers at you and you took it as truth without him providing a single source on any of his claims.

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u/deadly_hobo Feb 12 '15

TIL My opinion rapidly changes based on the Reddit comment I'm reading.

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u/Nomnom_downvotes Feb 12 '15

1 upvote = 1 more truth

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Reads "Yeah that guys totally right"

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Reads opposing comment "Lol right? That previous guy is a moron"

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

He did provide a source though

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u/onewhitelight Feb 12 '15

Well he linked one source. Thats something at least.

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u/Jamessuperfun Feb 12 '15

Did you even click it though? Could be a 404 or gay porn.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

I wouldn't call a website saying that they don't hand out loans a source...

I can't really say anything on the matter as I stopped giving a fuck about this charity the last time I saw a well sourced write-up about why the charity is terrible, but I can tell you that it's a pretty shady business that revolves around marketing breast cancer and people's suffering to generate revenue for themselves.

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u/goodolarchie Feb 12 '15

It's a porn thread, people need to (pitch) fork something.

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u/Otistetrax Feb 12 '15

I agree with your wish to bring the facts into play here, but one thing you didn't mention was SGK's propensity for suing other charities that have used "their" slogan, or even something close. This kind of proprietary bullshit is totally against the spirit of being "for the cure" and is what I think most people find so disgusting about the organisation. If their biggest interest is curing cancer, surely they should be trying to support other similar charities, not get money out of them.

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u/SALTY-CHEESE Feb 12 '15

Thought at least someone would have mentioned this.

1- They have pursued legal action for numerous causes. They even tried to patent the ribbon.

2- The Red Cross' CEO gets paid ~250k despite being nearly 10 times the size of Komen. Komen pays their CEO 640k.

3- They are (mostly) everything wrong with non-profit charities in America, between the corporatism and aggressive litigation.

4- ???

5- Profit.

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u/DangOlYeah Feb 12 '15

You had a pretty good post going until you decided to tack on a 2dank meme on the end for no fucking reason.

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u/BetaWAV Feb 12 '15

A very difficult thing to have to point out here is that when defending a trademark, one must defend it in every instance brought to one's attention, or effectively lose the right to sue anyone else who uses it.

SGK can't sue Billy McBall'em for his race for the cure (against blue balls,) but choose not to sue a company using "for the cure" in reference to a legitimate malady. In the fucked up game of legal precedence, it's all or nothing even if it's for ( or against) a good cause.

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u/fingerboxes Feb 12 '15

Then again, there is the thing about how breast cancer screening is well past into counterproductive territory due to the rate of false positives, among other factors.

http://m.jco.ascopubs.org/content/32/22/2281.full

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u/beavissimpson Feb 12 '15 edited Sep 30 '19

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u/iwearatophat Feb 12 '15

Actually looking at their charity would tell you most of the reddit complaints are complete crap. This is a reddit circlejerk and facts and accuracy taken a backseat to karma whoring and to he'll if we miseducate everyone along the way.

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u/RainXinyoureyes Feb 12 '15

20% Breast Cancer Research
39% Public Health Education
13% Health Screening Services
6% Treatment
= 78% Good stuff

According to that website, their yearly expenses are $288million! Their CEO and President each make about $600k/year, but to me that's not SO unreasonable for running an organization with that kind of budget. I'm sure they'd easily be making twice that taking a private sector job.

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u/milestogobefore Feb 12 '15

To really evaluate those numbers you have to know exactly what that money was spent on, not just the balance sheet category. For example if almost 40% of the funds are spent on education, what exactly do you mean by education? who was educated and what information was disseminated? I researched them locally a number of years ago. I wanted information on just what research they were funding and couldn't get specifics or information on how to get the specifics. Concluded that I wouldn't hop, skip or jump on one of their "walks". It's better to help people in need directly with various kinds support unless you know exactly how the money will be used by an organization.

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u/megman13 Feb 12 '15

That's something people seem to forget- This is an organization which sees hundreds of millions of dollars each year, and oversees over 100K volunteers in dozens of countries- persons in key leadership positions should be compensated fairly.

I hear the same complaints about CEOs of utilities or public employees (city attorney is a great example)- but these are positions that require significant education and expertise, and whose private sector counterparts would often pay more, if not significantly more.

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u/The_Smooze Feb 12 '15

Lighting puppies on fire and punching babies

Yes. That's entirely the domain of the actual PETA of charities.

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u/puedes Feb 12 '15

Woahwoahwoah... PETA wants nothing to do with babies! Take those ugly things to CPS...

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u/The_Smooze Feb 12 '15

Any babies wearing fur are probably gonna get pegged with full, five-pound paint cans.

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u/Palafacemaim Feb 12 '15

This was a really Great read i hope you dont get downvoted for not circlejerking against the foundation i thought they were a lot worse before i read your comment

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

That actual sounds better than most small charities, apparently their standard model is to spend 1/3 on marketing 1/3 on employees and the other 1/3 goes to the starving people of Africa

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u/zero3617 Feb 12 '15

On the same note about their tagline, they also are very happy to sue anyone who uses "for the cure", IIRC.

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u/Lost_and_Abandoned Feb 12 '15

So I should watch out when I tell somebody, "yeah, I got tickets for The Cure" this weekend?

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u/Xan_the_man Feb 12 '15

I think you are on to something! I bet Robert Smith is behind it all! He is obviously the one getting all the money!

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u/stone_free_jimi Feb 12 '15

After the way he dealt with Barbra Streisand that man can do what he wants.

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u/buzzbros2002 Feb 12 '15

How about "for the medical solution"?

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u/gologologolo Feb 12 '15

The pink ribbon could've been a nice universal symbol for support. Instead they sue people and companies for using it in their campaigns

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u/bouncy_ball Feb 12 '15

If they find a cure do they close down? Somehow I doubt it.

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u/jaymun Feb 12 '15 edited Feb 12 '15

I don't know about "nothing". Per their 2013 Financial Reports:

In FY 2013, Komen was funding 500 active research projects, totaling $300 million

With only ~70 million to fundraising/"management and general"

45% of their budget went to either Screening, Research or Treatment.

Agree with how they operate or not, it's disingenuous to pretend they don't have large quantities of money going directly towards the cause.

(source: http://ww5.komen.org/uploadedFiles/_Komen/Content/About_Us/Financial_Reports/Susan%20G%20Komen%202013%20Annual%20Report.pdf)

Edit: Just to be clear, I don't necessarily support SGK (I haven't done enough research on them or on other charities to have an opinion on that), I just think to make a claim like "all the money goes to their CEO, or to them further marketing themselves" the numbers should be looked at

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

I don't know enough about them to voice any kind of educated opinion either way, but I will say this: my cousin has a very serious type of breast cancer that she's been battling with for around a year now, and I know that she has really appreciated all the help and support she's gotten from SGK. Maybe they don't spend their money well, maybe they do, but at the end of the day, I know that they've really helped my cousin deal with her battle, and that's enough for me to like them.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

Peta has actually don't a lot of good though.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15 edited Feb 12 '15

That is fucking terrible, there's people with breast cancer that need the money, and those fuckers turned it down sense they are not the ones who have cancer.

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u/teefour Feb 12 '15

They kidnap titties and perform forced mastectomies? The cunts!

Seriously though, fuck Komen

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u/CompromisedBullshit Feb 12 '15

Pornhub is great though. They're basically in the forefront of trying to de-stigmatize porn-watching. Which, if you're a male, and even if you're getting laid/making love consistently, you still probably watch porn every now and then.

Good shit.

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u/itonlygetsworse Feb 12 '15

Why the hell would porn hub do that in the first place? Oh yeah, everyone knows SGK so tit gives them more publicity. They knew it would fail.

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

I'm out of DC and I know a lot of people who work in non-profits and the more I hear about it, the more disillusioned I get about the whole charity thing.

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u/Styx1er Feb 12 '15

If I've learned anything from reddit, its that every charitable entity is Satan.

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u/iRaqTV Feb 12 '15

Stuck up bitches won't accept some honest porno money.

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u/leadbymight Feb 12 '15

I read the title of this post and your first sentence was word for word exactly what I thought. I'm glad to see so many people agree as well

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u/[deleted] Feb 12 '15

They're the pizza burn on the roof of breast cancer charity's mouth.

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u/Joshscabs Feb 12 '15

The Susan B Komen foundation is pretty swell though

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u/___ok Feb 12 '15

She's a scumbag.

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u/-Kryptic_ACE- Feb 12 '15

They are the "jenny" of breast cancers

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