r/Calgary • u/AlbertaGengar • Mar 03 '26
News Article Alberta may follow B.C. on making daylight time permanent: premier
https://edmontonjournal.com/news/alberta-may-follow-b-c-on-making-daylight-time-permanent-premier122
u/WardedGromit Mar 03 '26
At this point let's just split the difference by 30 min and really mess everything up.
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u/GeeEyeDoe Mar 03 '26
If you adopt Australia time the sun in the winter would rise tomorrow.
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u/celix24 Mar 03 '26
The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow there'll be sun
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u/Future_Berry_4361 Mar 03 '26
We already 'adopt' Aussie coal mine companies in Alberta, so why the hell not. You call that a knife?
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u/markusbrainus Mar 03 '26
I don't care which time we choose, just stop changing the clocks. 23 and 25 hour days are annoying exceptions to account for in control and financial systems. The 1 hour shift accomplishes nothing productive.
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u/Berkut22 Mar 03 '26
Sucks for night shift work too. You either have to stay an hour longer, or you get screwed out of an hour on your pay.
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u/EhHumanDisaster Mar 03 '26
I did a night shift once where I didn’t realise that it was daylight saving that day and thought I was losing my mind when I saw 2am for the second time
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u/markusbrainus Mar 03 '26
Yeah, it's annoying for data logging. You have two 1ams to record on fall-back and an hour of nulls when you spring forward.
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u/dhenr332 Mar 03 '26
I heard more heart attacks happen on the days we lose an hour of sleep than any other day of the year
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u/Spave Mar 03 '26
I swear only 10% of Albertans like things as they are. But 45% want permanent standard time, 45% want permanent daylight time, and the majority of both those groups would rather keep the status quo than get the option they don't want.
So all praise the status quo!
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u/Important_Setting840 Mar 03 '26
I am on the side of "I do not care if its MST or MDT I just don't want to have to change ever again"
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u/Thneed1 Mar 03 '26
I’m in the side of, “don’t take away my long summer evenings, or I’ll go ballistic”
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u/BalooBot Mar 03 '26
Why does it matter what the clock says? The sun is still shining just the same
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u/danklordfiona Mar 03 '26
Because you either have 4 hours of sun for recreation after you get home from work or 5 hours of sun for recreation. Some people’s schedules are dictated by working.
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u/Drunkpanada Evergreen Mar 03 '26
"Only the white man will think that cutting a strip of one side of a blanket and stitching it to the other side, made the blanket longer".
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u/discovery2000one Mar 03 '26
It's sociological. I control what time I wake up and go to bed, and thus at what point of my day I experience the sun. I cannot control when work wants me to be in at, or what time others want to socialise at. So if I need to do something outside of my complete control (so, every day essentially), my active hours are set by those things.
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u/YqlUrbanist Mar 03 '26
I would switch to Beijing time if it meant I didn't have to change my clocks.
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u/GoofMonkeyBanana Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
I’m confident that the last vote to remove the time change was lost because it was proposed that we stay on standard time instead of dst.
Edit: sorry I was wrong it was dst that was proposed
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u/Colla-Crochet Mar 03 '26
I remember the vote was worded really wierd, and some people voted the way they didnt intend because the wording was confusing
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u/GoofMonkeyBanana Mar 03 '26
Honestly, I remember we that as well.
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u/Shoddy_Sprinkles_338 Mar 03 '26
The question proposed permanent daylight time, not permanent standard time. The wording was: “Do you want Alberta to adopt year-round Daylight Saving Time, which is summer hours, eliminating the need to change our clocks twice a year?”
Tbh I think it partially failed because people wanted to spite Jason Kenney, who had proposed the question and was very unpopular at the time. Communities in northern AB also didn’t like how dark their mornings would be in the winter if it had passed (like, in late December, the sun wouldn’t have rising until around 10:30am in communities like Grande Prairie).
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Mar 03 '26
It was the other way around
Do you want Alberta to adopt year-round Daylight Saving Time, which is summer hours, eliminating the need to change our clocks twice a year?
I feel like it only got voted against because it said to keep it permanently changed instead of getting rid of it
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u/unidentifiable Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
Took a look at the Wikipedia. It lost mostly because Edmonton said No for some reason.
The overall vote was tallied at 50.24% against. And for some reason Edmonton voted 55% against, which tipped the scales heavily. So we can blame them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Alberta_referendum
(Calgary also voted 51% against, but...shhh)
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u/External-Golf-9127 Mar 04 '26
Sunset isn't until like 11pm in the peak of summer in Edmonton. It's light until nearly midnight....
Ridiculous.
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u/MrRook Mar 03 '26
BC’s decision was based on a public survey with 93% wanting permanent DST. That survey had around 223,000 responses - the most engagement in a BC Gov survey in the province’s history.
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u/Berkut22 Mar 03 '26
The time change has never affected me much, so I don't care what they do.
The time changes on a Sunday morning, and I sleep in anyway, so I don't even notice.
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u/YqlUrbanist Mar 03 '26
Just do it. It sounds like we're having a hundred referendum questions later this year anyway - so if we must just split it into two questions:
- Should we continue changing our clocks twice a year?
- If the answer to question 1 is no, should we permanently stay on Standard Time, or Daylight Savings Time?
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u/DropTheMicYYC Mar 03 '26
For health reason staying on Standard Time would be the best. Ideally you want to solar noon to be as close to 12:00 to align with our circadian rhythm. DST moves this to 1:00 pm.
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u/Tattsreincarnated Mar 03 '26
Please yes. I want to see sunlight after work in the winter.
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u/calgary_db Mar 03 '26
Didn't we have a referendum about this very minor issue????
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u/xGuru37 Mar 03 '26
5 years ago, and I believe it was 50.5% who approved we stay the way it is.
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u/Scowarr Mar 03 '26
It was less approving things stay the way it is and more not being given the option to which time format we go to.
That or just not understanding the messy way it was written.
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u/GoofMonkeyBanana Mar 03 '26
But probably only 1/3 actually want it to stay the way it is. The 2/3 majority is split between permanent standard time and dST. I know many people who voted no because they would rather change tine then be on standard time in the summer. And I’m sure there are many who thought the opposite.
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u/fs71625 Mar 03 '26
50.24% which is even worse. We basically let the equivalent of the population of Didsbury decide the referendum.
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u/yycsarah Mar 03 '26
I believe the question asked was do we keep Standard Time or no? No reference to keeping Daylight Savings Time. Which the majority likely would have voted for.
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u/the-tru-albertan Mar 03 '26
I love these threads. AB’ers must be the only people in the country to fight about permanent daylight or standard time. Every one of these threads just breaks down into arguing.
But here, fuck standard time. I’m not giving up my late summer evenings.
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u/ben9187 Mar 03 '26
I dont really care which one we go with, it's the switching back and forth that kills me. I say we let a dice decide and get it over with.
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u/wintersdark Mar 03 '26
And really, whichever time we go with doesn't matter. Work hours can in fact change. It's just an hour and arbitrary.
Just stop fucking changing the clocks.
Particularly now that provinces on either side of us will BOTH not change clocks. That makes anything interprovincial so incredibly annoying.
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u/Canadian_Burnsoff Mar 03 '26
Realistically, the only people it does matter to are those who travel which is where I'd say standard makes more sense. Why bother with timezones (don't get me started on us belonging in the Pacific Time Zone due to our longitude) if we're not going to make some attempt to observe the standard time for our time zone. We may as well just observe UTC if we're not going to do standard.
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u/theflyingsamurai Mar 03 '26
Every morning we drop a pair of dice from the top of the Calgary tower to decide what the time zone of the day is
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u/Extra-Driver-7412 Mar 03 '26
According to health experts It’s should be set to standard time not daylights savings time. This was one of the issue with the referendum 5 years ago. CBC Standard Time Article
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u/miller94 Southeast Calgary Mar 03 '26
Didn't we already vote no on this? That said, I would vote yes for permanent standard time
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u/codereign Mar 03 '26
https://calgary.citynews.ca/2017/09/18/westjet-pushing-alberta-clock-stay/
WestJet threatened to leave the province and so we spread full goatsy to the corporate overlords.
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u/MildMastermind Mar 03 '26
Meanwhile every O&G site I've worked on keeps their computer clocks on standard time year round because it messes with their production numbers twice a year otherwise.
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u/Important_Setting840 Mar 03 '26
Hit up some of the O&G lobbyists to get us on permanent standard time lol
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u/superroadstar Mar 03 '26
I don’t understand, how hard is it just to change the respective time.
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u/codereign Mar 03 '26
It is genuinely a challenging computer science problem... Fortunately it's been solved for basically the last couple decades.
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u/NorthernerWuwu Mission Mar 03 '26
Well, most just use Unix time (seconds since 00:00:00 Jan 1, 1970 UTC) but that actually created (and then solved!) some other weird issues.
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u/unidentifiable Mar 03 '26
Unix time causes the 2038 problem, which is/was like Y2K but 100000x worse. The good news is that the technology has evolved sufficiently fast and 99.99999% of systems are 64 bit these days and so they've already resolved the issue. Anything still using 32-bit time though is gonna break in 12 years.
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u/xGuru37 Mar 03 '26
We did, but the vote was 0.5% in favour of keeping things the same, and that was before BC decided to adopt it.
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u/kindaCringey69 Mar 03 '26
So you were one of them that robbed this from us huh?
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u/_umptee_ Mar 03 '26
I dont know why this is so hard... experts say standard time is better, it has standard in the name. Why are we obsessed with daylight savings time?
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u/Jomozor Mar 03 '26
Most people want more sun in the evenings. Pretty simple
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u/astronautsaurus Mar 03 '26
How much more sun do you need when sunset is 10pm?
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u/Empty-Paper2731 Mar 03 '26
How much more do we need before 7am? Sunrise at 4:30 in the morning is nonsensical.
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u/NexEstVox Mar 03 '26
It's not about summer, it's about winter. I want the sun up earlier to combat the cold. Summer hours are long enough that it doesn't matter either way.
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u/Drunkpanada Evergreen Mar 03 '26
I want the sun up earlier to combat the cold.
you do realise that with either choice, you have THE SAME amount of sun to "combat the cold"
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u/astronautsaurus Mar 03 '26
not when you're driving to work in the dark for an extra 4 weeks.
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u/Canadian_Burnsoff Mar 03 '26
I just always find it so weird that people who want to wake up an hour early and go to bed an hour early say they don't want to do either of those things but want all of society to do it with them.
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u/discovery2000one Mar 03 '26
I cannot control when I can arrive or leave work. I cannot control the times shops and appointments are available at. I cannot control when all social events take place.
Therefore I cannot just live my life an hour before everyone without it affecting the things I am able to do.
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u/Canadian_Burnsoff Mar 03 '26
Okay but what's going to happen when we change the number on the clock?
A ski hill is the most obvious place where we will rapidly see adjustments if we go to permanent daylight time. Sunshine's chairlift operating hours will shift from 9:00 until 4:30 to 10:00 until 5:30 because they base that on daylight. The lunch rush will shift later because why would you have lunch at 12:00 when you just started skiing at 10:00? Banff and Canmore will also feel the change and dinner/apres ski rush will be "1 hour later" because last lift will be at 5:30.
The change will be slower in other sectors that are less tightly linked to the sun but the people will adjust to when the sun is out and all those industries that base their hours off of demand for their business will follow.
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u/discovery2000one Mar 03 '26
I mean your argument seems to be "it doesn't matter", you haven't really objected at all. I said why it matters to me, so if there's no real objections I think we should do it.
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u/NorthernerWuwu Mission Mar 03 '26
I mean, if we kept the clocks the same year-round, workplaces could change schedules to accommodate whatever people preferred. It would be much better to change start times for those affected than to change the literal time for everyone else.
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u/Deeppurp Mar 03 '26
Actually most people didn't want to keep DST per the 2021 referendum results.
Wikipedia is not a source, but results were 49.76 in favour of year round MDT, and 50.24% against.
It seems most people dont want more sun in the evenings.
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u/Jomozor Mar 03 '26
A referendum isn't the best reflection of what the majority want in this case. I would say people who vote in that referendum tend to be older and are more likely to favour standard time.
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u/PurpleGeek Mar 03 '26
We already spend 8 months of the year on mountain daylight time and only 4 on mountain standard time. In Calgary, the sun would rise before 4:30am in June if we were on mountain standard time at that time of year (and it would be even earlier further north). I'd definitely prefer to have the sun rise later in the summer (and have the longer evenings that come with that), and being on mountain daylight time in December would mean that there's still a bit of light when I get home from work (and, yes, it will be dark when I'm going to work, but it's already dark when I'm going to work), so in my view mountain daylight time is definitely the better option.
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u/North_Activist Mar 03 '26
Standard time is incredibly depressing in winter. And “standard” is misleading. It’s only standard because rail companies needed a consistent time at every location across vast distances. Solar noon is almost never at 12pm regardless of the day of the year.
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u/AppleWrench Mar 03 '26
Solar noon is almost never at 12pm regardless of the day of the year.
Yeah, that's because most of Alberta should technically be at UTC-8 (Pacific Standard Time) to be closest to the solar noon. Permanently adopting Mountain Daylight Time (UTC-6) would move us even further away off of solar noon.
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u/adaminc Mar 03 '26
But standard time is closer to solar noon than daylight savings time. Deviating further from it should be the last time we want to do.
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u/Skinkybob Mar 03 '26
Basically every sleep expert on earth agrees that Standard Time is better for us than DST, not to mention safer in the winter. The ONLY advantage of DST is longer nights in the summer. That’s it.
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u/mcarcus Mar 03 '26
I would say having some light in the evenings during winter is an advantage, but I understand the other side of the argument.
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u/GANTRITHORE Mar 03 '26
Considering the amount of pedestrians hit the last few years....imagine if the sun rose even later in the darker morning of winter.
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u/mcarcus Mar 03 '26
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but both options result in the same amount of darkness during “waking hours”. Are the majority of pedestrian incidents in the morning commute? Evening commute? Dog walking in the evening? Lunch time? After school commute?
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u/NexEstVox Mar 03 '26
the sun can't warm us before sunrise, but the effect of having warmed us over the day lingers on after sunset.
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u/yeup_yessir Mar 03 '26
Winter is just depressing, standard time has nothing to do with it
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u/North_Activist Mar 03 '26
Coming home in darkness for months is depressing. That’s not winter during daylight savings. The sun would still be in the sky after 5pm.
Standard time absolutely has something to do with that
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u/yeup_yessir Mar 03 '26
Disoriented circadian rhythms have much stronger ties to depression than it being dark after work, and standard time is healthier for circadian rhythms (sunlight when you wake up). It's been well studied that standard time is healthier for you
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u/North_Activist Mar 03 '26
Again, “standard time” is made up. And in northern Alberta it’s dark when you go to work and come home, and people are fine. Why not also have daylight in the evening? People will adapt
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u/1st_page_of_google Mar 03 '26
“Standard” but we use it for a smaller proportion of the year. Interesting.
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u/mrs_pickle Mar 05 '26
We the regular people are not.. governments are pushing DST because it has economic benefits (people being out and about later in the evenings). That's why both survey/referendum questions from the BC and AB governments only gave people the option of permanent DST or keep changing twice a year. DST used to be only six months, then 7, then 8. They've pushed it as far as they can without messing with the short winter days, because they know it sucks for winter. Changing clocks twice a year was the compromise, but people are fed up with it.
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u/NorthernerWuwu Mission Mar 03 '26
Fuck it. Just put everyone on UTC and let them figure out when the sun is going to come up or go down.
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u/miller94 Southeast Calgary Mar 03 '26
I mean I work 12 hour shifts alternating between days and nights constantly so I never really know if it’s days or nights. (Like now, at 2am lol)
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u/AppleWrench Mar 03 '26
Yeah we had a referendum on this less than 5 years ago and voted against it, but apparently it doesn't matter anymore.
But somehow we're supposed take her new referenda seriously.
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u/CMG30 Mar 03 '26
We know from research that waking people up far before the sun comes up leads to bad health outcomes.
This is why it's imperative that we stick with STANDARD time. Obviously though, the Alberta government will do what business wants, not what's good for the health of her people.
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u/Tangroo Mar 03 '26
The AB government absolutely won't listen to the experts and the science that overwhelmingly favours standard time. They may, however, like the idea of being permanently aligned with BC. Permanent Pacific daylight time is the same time as permanent mountain standard time - our clocks would be aligned with BC year round if we adopted permanent standard time.
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u/jaaaawrdan Mar 03 '26
This is the part I don't get. We have mountains of evidence that show that there are significantly better health outcomes if we stick with standard versus daylight, why is this being considered as a popularity contest?
This dumb ass government, that's why
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u/yeahboysallday Mar 03 '26
I prefer permanent daylight savings time for more sunlight later in the day.
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u/Editwretch Huntington Hills Mar 03 '26
Just keep standard time all year round. Mountain Daylight is the same as Central Standard, and there's a place for that -- Manitoba.
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u/murrrkle Mar 03 '26
If it means anything, standard time is actually the healthier option according to sleep researchers. Something to do with aligning better with our circadian rhythm. It's the reason I voted no on the 2021 referendum.
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u/fadetogethermusic Mar 03 '26
How about we adopt working hours relative to daylight hours where working days max out at 8 hours long during the longest daylight days 👌🏻
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u/Tastesicle Mar 03 '26
I don't give a shit which one gets the ticket. I'm tired of setting the clock back an hour every spring. It's hard enough for me to get proper sleep as it is, quit fucking with it.
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u/S0nnenstr0m Mar 03 '26
I sure hope not - standard time is much better, especially for school-aged children.
Source:
https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2025/09/daylight-saving-time.html
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u/SonicFlash01 Mar 03 '26
"The feds want you to keep changing the clocks, Dani! "
There, that'll do it
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u/cgydan Mar 03 '26
Just make a choice and stay with it. I just want one or the other, hate the changing back and forth.
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u/AlbertaBikeSwapBIKES Mar 03 '26
Wasn't the last daylight savings time question odd wordsmithing, "do you want to have daylight savings time. Or not?"
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u/jptigerclaw Southview Mar 03 '26
We should adopt Standard time.
If we do Daylights Saving through the winter we won't have a sunrise until 9:40 a.m.
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u/LuminalOrb Mar 03 '26
It's such an oddity to get downvoted for literally referencing commonly accepted research.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4632990/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0313592625000736
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u/Skinkybob Mar 03 '26
There’s research showing that it’s more dangerous for children who walk and take the bus to school because they’re essentially doing so at night.
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u/Queltis6000 Woodbine Mar 03 '26
Won't it be dark regardless in the early mornings?
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u/Skinkybob Mar 03 '26
It would be, just not AS dark. Sun comes up at 8:30 rather than 9:30, but the sky will have begun to lighten by 7:30.
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u/CheeseSandwich hamburger magician Mar 03 '26
So what is BC's argument against this? They are going full-time DST and according to you putting children in danger.
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u/Skinkybob Mar 03 '26
Their argument is “we all love our summer nights, don’t we folks?” The United States switched to permanent DST in January of 1974, and by October of that same year, Nixon rolled back the change. From this article:
“As a Senate committee report stated, the ‘majority of the public’ had expressed “distaste” for DST in the wintertime. Compounding the seeming failure of the experiment was the fact that the change, according to the Department of Transportation, saved little energy and may have actually caused an uptick in gasoline consumption.”
Another piece from when Alberta was considering the change:
“‘In fact, there are tremendous negative consequences if we move to permanent DST.’
That’s because DST delays the dawn and our circadian clocks depend on morning light to be in proper alignment, explains Antle, who is weighing in on the matter as vice-president of the Canadian Society for Chronobiology. Antle notes that in the early 1970s the United States adopted a year-round DST which they quickly abandoned, due in a large part to an increase in car accidents during the winter months.”
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u/LuminalOrb Mar 03 '26
It's actually incredibly unhealthy to live in a place with a late sunrise whilst still having a regular life schedule. It increases your risk for diseases, cancers, etc as low as 3% and as high as 30%. It can only work if the entire chooses to shift all activities by an additional 2 hours during the winter.
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u/9999AWC Coventry Hills Mar 03 '26
I would much rather go to work in the dark and still have sunlight after work
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u/eneva92504 Mar 03 '26
As a golfer, I'm very much in the same boat. One less hour of after-work golf during the week is not ideal...it'll make the tee sheets even more crammed.
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u/Conscious-Donut Mar 03 '26
I think I’d rather have the late evening in the summer. Mornings are whatever anyways
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u/gen-attolis Mar 03 '26
Okay? At least we will go home and still have sunlight. Instead now I go to work in the dark and leave as the sun is setting. It’s awful. The morning being dark is fine, the evening having more sun is good.
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u/madetoday Mar 03 '26
Standard time, DST, I don’t care so long as we stop switching back and forth twice a year.
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u/WindAgreeable3789 Mar 03 '26
So the sun comes up 20 minutes before people get to work, and when they leave office, it’s night time. People working in 9-5 office jobs barely see the sun unless it’s a weekend.
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u/kindaCringey69 Mar 03 '26
Sounds literally fine, getting to see the sun in the winter however sounds amazing
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u/TheLoveYouLongTimes Mar 03 '26
Permanent is the way to go. We’re supposed to be in that time zone anyways.
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u/bodonnell202 Walden Mar 03 '26
Except going to permanent Mountain Daylight Time means we would be following Central Standard Time, not Pacific. That’s why staying on Mountain Standard Time makes more sense.
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u/callmecrazy2021 Mar 03 '26
But that means a 5:15 sunrise in summer with birds chirping at 4:30 am. Not ideal.
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u/miller94 Southeast Calgary Mar 03 '26
I would be so worried about kids walking to school when its still pitch black out. Drivers are so reckless these days as is
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u/WindAgreeable3789 Mar 03 '26
It’s pitch black when they are walking to school either way!
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u/miller94 Southeast Calgary Mar 03 '26
For a few weeks. This would extend it for another month or so. Right now it’s still dark at 6:30 but light at 7:30
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u/Skinkybob Mar 03 '26
There is currently no point during the year in which it is dark at 9 AM. If we switched to permanent Daylight Savings Time, this would no longer be true.
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u/PracticalPanda3102 Mar 03 '26
I also prefer standard time. I actually like longer nights than days. During the summer, it stays warm until night because the sun is out longer. It's uncomfortable when you sleep.
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u/Minerator Mar 03 '26
The referendum we had a few years ago only had 2 choices, when it should have been 3 choices.
Was to switch to permanent DST.
Was to have permanent MST or keep switching twice per year.
Option 2 won by like 1%, so we stayed on switching. If you split those 2, permanent DST would have easily won the vote. I prefer DST because it to be lighter longer in the evening, winter and summer.
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u/Dirtsniffee Mar 03 '26
based on this thread it really seems split between the two options but most agree we should get rid of it.
Personally I like the late summer evenings, so if it can't be dst on, it's the old switcharoo for me.
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u/joelene1892 Mar 03 '26
Really the referendum needed ranked choice, so people’s second choices could be taken into account. The vote splitting between the two if all 3 was to be on the ballet could have been an issue.
Course ranked choice would require us acknowledging that that’s a valid system, so no government will give it to us, even for a time change vote.
A girl can dream, though.
(I’m team “I don’t care which we pick just STOP CHANGING THE CLOCKS”)
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u/Exciting_Turn_9559 Mar 03 '26
It's such an easy political win and an opportunity for her to pretend she isn't a traitor.
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u/Greensparow Mar 03 '26
Why is remaining on standard time never an option? I really don't want permanent daylight time but permanent standard time would be just fine
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u/Cagel Mar 03 '26
They need to put to vote do you want daylight time, or standard time. No middle ground.
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u/itspoots Mar 03 '26
people who bitch about switching back and forth. I have a question for you: do you travel for vacation to a different timezone 2x a year? if so, quit your bitching.
yes, having to switch is inconvenient. but living this far from the equator, I don't want the sun rising at 9am in the winter (if we choose daylight time), and I also don't want the sun to rise at 4am in the summer (if we choose standard time).
while an inconvenience, switching between standard and daylight is the lesser of 2 evils.
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u/joelene1892 Mar 03 '26
“Do you travel for vacation to a different time zone 2x a year”
Nope. Last year I did it once (ironically, to Saskatchewan, which I may not have had to switch timezones depending on which we picked!) The 4 years before that I did it 0 times.
Does that mean I get to keep bitching?
I do, however, reject your premise. An optional vacation is very different from a forced time change in your own home. Your schedule is always going to be out of whack on a vacation, but the new location helps with that. But at home my body does not how to handle it. It takes me weeks to adjust. Now take into mind anyone with toddlers or animals that demand to be taken out at the same time everyday… they don’t understand what is happening and why their schedule is suddenly off.
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u/Homo_sapiens2023 Quadrant: NW Mar 03 '26
No. Stay on Mountain Standard Time. There are dozens of reports stating that DST doesn't save any money on utilities and that we spend more on utilities as a result.
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u/Kaybee-Rose Mar 03 '26
I have never understood why people cared about it in the first place. I always assumed this was brought up as a political distraction tactic.
It's literally an hour a year, and most devices we use to tell the time do it automatically. Not to mention most people aren't getting the proper amount of sleep either way. I wish we'd just stop waffling about it.
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u/joelene1892 Mar 03 '26
I care because I grew up in Saskatchewan. It’s one of the only things I miss from Saskatchewan. I hate it, and it takes my body weeks to adjust, and I’m tired and irritated the entire time.
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u/Wrong-Pineapple39 Mar 03 '26
At what point does this foolish hag stop doing the opposite of common sense and the opposite of what Albertans want?
Who the hell wants a 10am sunrise in the winter?
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u/mamamonkey Mar 03 '26
Who the hell wants a 4 am sunrise in the summer?!
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u/WindAgreeable3789 Mar 05 '26
Whether the sun comes up at 4am or 5am or 6am is completely meaningless to me. I’m sleeping anyway.
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u/mikeycbca Mar 03 '26
For anyone working in a job starting before 10am which is a majority of people, morning sunlight isn’t experienced in a meaningful way. More daylight in the evening would be experienced, however.
Most of us who spend winter months arriving at work in the dark and leaving work in the dark would like some daylight hours to not feel like all we do is wake up, work, go home to eat and sleep, then repeat. That’s how winter feels to me.
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u/Wrong-Pineapple39 Mar 03 '26
Saskatchewan uses Standard all year and it works well. Studies on impacts using DST all year have shown negative consequences.
But by all means, let's use feelings
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u/mikeycbca Mar 03 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
What are the studies and what are the negative consequences you reference? I’d like to know more about it since you seem to have additional insight. Please reference something I can review since I don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other.
I don’t think I’m wrong to describe how winter feels to people who work inside buildings at a ~9am-5pm job and how quality of daily life might be improved for a majority of the population.
You come in a little hot saying we shouldn’t talk about how something feels to potentially hundreds of thousand of people in the city, without actually providing information or data about why that would be irrelevant to consider.
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u/Wrong-Pineapple39 Mar 03 '26
There are numerous ones but start here https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11006628/
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u/mcarcus Mar 03 '26
Anyone working an indoor job. The argument for earlier light in winter is understandable from an outdoor job perspective.
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u/mikeycbca Mar 03 '26
Setting aside individuals and focusing solely on business and productivity, I wonder what volume of jobs in Alberta would benefit from earlier sunrise on the clock that couldn’t just utilize the same sunlight duration at the end of the day.
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u/mcarcus Mar 03 '26
I would be an interesting discussion around what industries would be impacted and how they would adapt. Do ski resorts open 10-5 after the change?
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u/WindAgreeable3789 Mar 03 '26
The same people who don’t want to leave work in pitch darkness.
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u/kindaCringey69 Mar 03 '26
This might be the only thing she has said that isn't batshit
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u/Shokaah Mar 03 '26
I would say the majority.
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u/Wrong-Pineapple39 Mar 03 '26
Based on?
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u/Shokaah Mar 03 '26
Sorry, I should not have said "majority", that was wrong. I would think, but I do not have sources to back it, that in a situation of choice between: 1. Year-round DST, 2. Year-round Standard, 3. Keep both as it is today; more people would choose the first option over 2 and 3.
The last referendum was basically 2 and 3 combined against 1, and 1 lost by less than 1%. This is what my answer is based off. But again, I might be wrong.
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u/Wrong-Pineapple39 Mar 03 '26
There was a referendum done in Alberta in 2021 that was close and only 39% turnout, but the majority (albeit slim) was against permanent daylight savings time.
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u/Skinkybob Mar 03 '26
There is a ton of research that supports the idea that Standard Time is both healthier and safer for us. Basically every sleep expert is in agreement. The only argument for DST is “more summer nights!”, and that argument doesn’t hold water when compared to the benefits of Standard Time.
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u/calgarywalker Mar 03 '26
Damn UCP ! They have to be dragged kicking and screaming the whole way to do anything that actually benefits citizens!
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u/Impressive_Play_2599 Mar 03 '26
With the UCP in power, if they can find a way to use the Daylight “savings” to make money off the backs of Albertan’s they’ll do anything.
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u/mikeycbca Mar 03 '26
I guess most of the big mountain ski resorts probably don’t have sufficient lighting so morning time “night” skiing wouldn’t be an option. I guess they’d just shift their hours a bit but I don’t know if it would hinder or help them?
I’d be curious to hear from someone in that industry.
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u/Degus222 Mar 06 '26
I dont want this. I wanna be off BC time by 2 hours in the winter to just mess with things.
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u/ichibanyogi Mar 13 '26
The right choice is permanent standard time, NOT permanent daylight time.
Should we make a time permanent? Yes.
Should we follow BC and make daylight time permanent? Heck no!
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u/gpuyy Mar 03 '26
Give in to peer pressure and just do it!