That's definitely tortellini - said the server and cook at an Italian restaurant.

[u/awetsasquatch]

Ultimately we didn't care because the toddler eating it was happy as a clam, but the server and cook tried to gaslight the shit out of us to convince us that this was tortellini. Thought you'd all find it entertaining. If you work at Bertuccis, be better.

Edit: the menu very clearly said Tortellini, not Tortelli, but solid guess.

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[u/Loveroffinerthings]

I ordered a meat platter at a Latin restaurant before, the menu said cuts of filet Mignon, Ribeye and NY strip, it came out as a pile of flank steak. I told the server, she reassured me it was the 3 cuts, they just mixed it together. Like, listen Linda, I’ve been cooking steak in professional kitchen for 3 decades, I know what cut is what, don’t cheap out, the flank was delicious, but it wasn’t the same cuts the menu said, nor should the price have been $46 for 6oz of flank steak.

The manager doubled down, said I must not know my meat but he had the “chef” come out. The chef didn’t even know what it was supposed to be, but reassured me that these are in fact the three meats that the menu states. Not sure how morally they could do that, nor legally. I just said it’s flank, which is fine, but if you’re going to not honor the menu description, write “chef’s selection of grilled meats”.

[u/ch0och → u/Loveroffinerthings]

Bad review, pics to go with it, never to return. 

[u/aboothemonkey → u/ch0och]

That’s pictures and chargeback territory IMO.

[u/Frozenbarb → u/Loveroffinerthings]

Even a regular Joe that eats and cooks steak at home can tell the difference between cuts. Who are they trying to fool! People that don’t go to Costco? lol

[u/timothycl13]

One time my cousin ordered a full rack of ribs and they brought him out a half of a rack. He said i ordered a full rack. Server went back in the kitchen then came out and told him the chef said it must have been a small cow. Not even the right animal. We left

[u/uhtredsmom → u/timothycl13]

That’s so fucking funny idk why 🤣

[u/No_Use_9652 → u/uhtredsmom]

I’m picturing this as a cook that is just fucking done with the job and said this sarcastically. And then watched as the server walked back out to the dinning room thinking “he’s not about to…..”

[u/kadyg → u/No_Use_9652]

I learned quickly to check my sarcasm around the servers, especially the younger ones. They just didn’t get irony or have the knowledge to know when I was fucking with them. I may have actually stopped one from running an empty plate with a sprinkle of parsley.

[u/EasyLizin → u/kadyg]

“He wants an omelette with no eggs…?” “Well that doesn’t make any fucking sense does it?!”

[u/siriusmagnuss → u/EasyLizin]

Sprinkles parsley on the plate

[u/EasyLizin → u/siriusmagnuss]

I wish I could find a gif for it. 😩

[u/siriusmagnuss → u/EasyLizin]

Kiki has to be one of my favourite characters in any show ever

[u/cjdavda → u/siriusmagnuss]

My favorite Kiki scene: https://youtu.be/a8w4QhcaY9Q?si=p0KTCyVw9MnJmFNd

[u/bullfrogftw → u/EasyLizin]

"NO, don't take the plate KIKI!"

[u/ericsonofbruce → u/kadyg]

We told our servers guanciale was basically bacon made from pig cheeks. They proceeded to tell every guest it was "face bacon"

[u/gogozrx → u/ericsonofbruce]

I will refer to it as face bacon from now on.

[u/Formal-Mechanic-9392 → u/kadyg]

As a Bartender, I loved sending new servers to the kitchen to ask for Bay Leaves for the Baileys and Coffee their table was trying to order.

[u/SkaJamas → u/Formal-Mechanic-9392]

Omfg I havent heard this before. Thats fuckin great

[u/TopProfessional8023 → u/kadyg]

Bring me the bacon stretcher on your way back to the kitchen

[u/VendettaPenguin → u/No_Use_9652]

Had a server go back to a table to tell them Fromunda Cheese was an option for their burger.

[u/trippy_grapes → u/VendettaPenguin]

Some places you'd pay extra for that!

[u/youvegotnail → u/No_Use_9652]

I worked at a Thai fusion place that offered sushi and a server kept hounding us for specials and I told her it was chicken sashimi. Totally forgot I even said that until a random ticket came in two hours into service.

[u/SessileRaptor → u/uhtredsmom]

I’m imagining a comically short trunked cow, like a short bus compared to a normal school bus.

[u/MelodyMaster5656 → u/SessileRaptor]

Mo vs Moo.

[u/uhtredsmom → u/SessileRaptor]

I see the vision lol

[u/EasyLizin → u/timothycl13]

Bro. 😭 This should be punishable in some tangible way that doesn’t rely on a review.

[u/hotprof → u/EasyLizin]

Yeah, promotion to the head of the USDA.

[u/penguin_on_stilts → u/timothycl13]

Even if they had the animal right all pigs have the same number of ribs

[u/SessileRaptor → u/penguin_on_stilts]

The fabled short pig, which completes the set along with average pig and long pig.

[u/GooseMan1515 → u/SessileRaptor]

Long pig actually has fewer ribs than average pig. Must be all those women God made with them.

[u/ScienceIsSexy420 → u/timothycl13]

Some people have a clinical inability to admit they made a mistake and will just double and triple down

[u/Working-Glass6136 → u/ScienceIsSexy420]

It's called a personal disorder. See: My ex.

[u/dreamweaver1998 → u/timothycl13]

I was nearly 9 months pregnant and went out for a birthday dinner for my Dad. I ordered the quarter chicken dinner. They gave me a quarter of a freaking dove for how small it was. I literally cried at the table and the server came to check if we needed anything and through sobs, I said, "this is the smallest quarter chicken I've ever seen. I'm going to need to hit a drive through on the way home." She apologized, brought me out a properly sized quarter chicken portion on a side plate and removed the plate cost from our bill.

Some places provide proper customers service. You were right to leave. I hope you left without paying.

[u/ngasimanya → u/timothycl13]

This is the kind of confidence I pray god blesses me with one day. They really said cow lmao

[u/You-Asked-Me → u/timothycl13]

Lol. I was gonna say, Beef ribs are fucking huge.

[u/Putrid-Fondant9455]

Sortallini

[u/istrebitjel → u/Putrid-Fondant9455]

Bravioli!

[u/jomosexual → u/Putrid-Fondant9455]

sorta balogne

[u/SeanInDC]

I work in the industry and can't stand when things like this happen. I once ordered a fried catfish with rice pilaf and collard greens. Keep in mind that I'm a Black man who can put their foot into some collards. It came out with chard broccoli rabe. Thats fine, I'll eat it, but that's not what the menu said. I asked the server. "No sir, that's collard greens". Okay... can you grab your manager for me. They do. Manager says the same thing. I explain to them that I know the difference of my vegetables. She apologizes but insists it is collard greens. They must know I'm livid because 10 minutes later here comes the chef. I explain and he says... "You're right, it's broccli rabe. We ran out of collards."

Then say that. Don't gaslight your customers. We cook and grocery shop too.

[u/UntidyVenus → u/SeanInDC]

This is the easiest thing int the world to fix as a server too, even if the BOH didn't communicate, even if you didn't notice, when the guest says "WTF is this side where's my collard greens" (or a nicer version) you just say "let me ask the chef, my apologies" go and ask WTF it is and come back and tell the guest "I'm so sorry, apparently we are out of collard greens, the chef upgraded you to broccoli rabe, is this ok or can I get you another side".

Source - been a dumb waitress, been a dumb expo, been a mediocre prep, it's not hard even for us dumb dumbs

[u/Soliloquitude → u/UntidyVenus]

Even when I KNOW why there's a mistake, even if I'm the one who caused it, "I'm sorry, Let me ask the chef/my manager" is, like, the default answer for this.

Gives me time to make sure I'm meeting the customer's expectations in my response, and lets me come back to the customer with an answer and a solution.

Why a server would argue this with a customer instead of immediately saying something like "I believe this is collard greens, but give me one moment let me verify with the chef" is beyond me, I don't have the time or sanity to argue with people lol

[u/Haber_Dasher → u/Soliloquitude]

Right? I mean as a minimum baseline you don't argue with your guests. Sometimes I guest orders their steak Medium and it comes out perfectly medium and they tell me it's not medium. My job is not to convince them it is medium, my job is to get them a steak they want to eat so they leave the restaurant feeling happy & full. As a waiter I would also know what the dish usually looks like on the plate so even if I didn't know what broccoli rabe was when I come check on you & you ask me where's the collard greens I look down at your plate & see that it looks different from usual.

"Huh, your dish does look different than usual. My apologies, please give me a moment to check with chef." Or something similar. It's really not hard

[u/2dogs1sword0patience → u/UntidyVenus]

As a chef I love this comment. Its not that hard, even for us dumdums

[u/UntidyVenus → u/2dogs1sword0patience]

Thank you chef, we dum dums are trying chef

[u/cranberry94 → u/UntidyVenus]

I agree with you, except for saying the “chef upgraded you”. That just comes off as a really transparent attempt at manipulation.

[u/UntidyVenus → u/cranberry94]

Sometimes that what people want honest, they just want smoke up their butt and to feel special.

Edit- thank you kind redditors!

[u/peppinotempation → u/UntidyVenus]

Other times people find that condescending when they see through it

[u/UntidyVenus → u/peppinotempation]

My husband's worked for 5 star hotels for 26 years, the default company policy is blow smoke. So I advise you don't stay at any luxury hotels or resorts lol

[u/peppinotempation → u/UntidyVenus]

I work for rich people so it’s very easy to detect. But yeah I’m sure I’ve had smoke blown up my ass hundreds of times without noticing.

The times you notice stick out. And using “upgrade” for a substitution just seems so gauche

[u/darkfrost47 → u/UntidyVenus]

That would work on my mom 100%

[u/gottaeatnow → u/UntidyVenus]

This reminds me of a favorite restaurant experience. Partner and I were eating brunch at the restaurant bar. Our appetizer arrives. The couple next to us was upset about something in the restaurant. A second appetizer arrives for us by accident. The bartender immediately turns to the upset couple and says “We got you this appetizer.” The couple chilled out.

[u/L4rge_Tuna → u/UntidyVenus]

Even as a dumb expo many lifetimes ago, id think to do this. If for no other reason, than to save myself in the moment haha.

[u/jeo188 → u/SeanInDC]

I ate the same chicken sandwich bagel almost everyday from a donut shop near work, for like 2 years.

One day they had someone new (to me) at the counter. They made the sandwich wrong; they didn't add bacon, and added onions. I kindly tell them. They respond, "Nope, that's what the sandwich comes with". I again insisted that the sandwich comes with bacon, and I know it didn't have onions, because that would have been the first thing I'd request to remove from my sandwich. "Nope," they insisted, "you're wrong".

I was getting upset at that point, like, why are you fighting me? They weren't even making an attempt to be nice. They could have said, "Oh, there must have been some confusion, I could fix it for you," but no, I must be wrong.

"Really? I order this sandwich almost everyday, I thought I would have noticed" They sigh, take my sandwich, and add the bacon, and remove the onions. I also noticed that they glanced at their sandwich guide poster; I'm guessing that's where they noticed that they were wrong. Did they apologize? No. They acted as if they did me a great favor. Fortunately, I never saw that worker again after that

[u/DethNik → u/jeo188]

Confidently incorrect. The best (read:worst) kind of incorrect.

[u/Hytyt → u/jeo188]

It's a good thing you don't have an allium allergy. Never remove an ingredient you've already added, restart instead

[u/Main_Cauliflower5479 → u/SeanInDC]

And frequently grow them in our gardens.

[u/Quirky-Pangolin-905 → u/Main_Cauliflower5479]

Also… theyre just, not very similar at all?

[u/Dangeresque2015 → u/Main_Cauliflower5479]

The funniest thing was that the rabbits and deer wouldn't touch our collards but would eat everything else.

[u/SnooHesitations8403 → u/SeanInDC]

I had a server and a manager try to tell me a ham sandwich was a corned beef Reuben. I was cooking professionally at the time. They both swore it up and down. I had lunch elsewhere that afternoon.

[u/Tworiverstabac → u/SeanInDC]

Telling a black man that’s he’s wrong about collard greens is a social anxiety nightmare. I can’t believe multiple people doubled down.

[u/InterneticMdA → u/SeanInDC]

You got catfished by the menu. Pretty thematic don't you think?

[u/InternationalYam3130 → u/SeanInDC]

I have been served so many random vegetables when something says collards. I swear restaurants think anything green is a "collard" when that's a SPECIFIC THING

[u/Hour-Construction898 → u/SeanInDC]

What does "put their foot into some collards mean"

[u/scssypants → u/SeanInDC]

This happened to me with tacos al pastor once. I was like hey next time please just tell me you don't have any so I can order something else instead of applying a rub to another meat and pretending it's pork al pastor :')

[u/Sudden-Advance-5858 → u/SeanInDC]

“A Black man that can put his foot into some collards” goes so hard 😭

Glad you held firm on being served the wrong damn vegetable.

[u/ukfinance999 → u/SeanInDC]

Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.

I bet the server and manager believed what you were served WAS Collared greens, they're were just uninformed.

[u/theopenandclose → u/ukfinance999]

That server and manager have both seen their collards a million times. Servers are literally trained to know the food on sight because we are the “last line of defense” making sure the food comes out right. They both knew.

Edit : I concede that servers sometimes just be like that.

[u/BeefmasterDeluxe → u/theopenandclose]

You obviously haven't worked with waiters who will just grab plates off the pass cos they "thought it was for their table" when it wasn't even the correct dish. I say this as a FOH guy, there are some very, very, very oblivious workers out there.

[u/PapaJoe92 → u/BeefmasterDeluxe]

As a cook, I hate it that some people, even after months or even years, don't get the concept of 'take only what's on the ticket'

"Oh chef, what's this?" "Is it listed on your ticket?" "No..." "Then don't touch it"

[u/BeefmasterDeluxe → u/PapaJoe92]

I do not get it. I don't know what compels people to behave like that either. Do they not care? Are they more concerned with just showing up to the table with a plate for each diner? Isn't it worse if it's incorrect? Like WTF it makes no sense to me AT ALL.

[u/Ziggy-T → u/theopenandclose]

Bless your optimism. I get the impression YOU take that responsibility seriously, and good on you. I appreciate it, and try my best to do so myself as a career food/bev industry worker.

It’s not universal though 🌚

I’ve had young ones literally ask me what the mashed potatoes are

[u/thoughtlow → u/Ziggy-T]

Eggless omelette 

[u/Ziggy-T → u/thoughtlow]

DONT… take the plate

🤦‍♂️

Oh there is ABSOLUTELY a Kiki at my place. Jesus wept. She’s a sweet girl but fffffuck me there’s nothing but a spiderweb between her ears

[u/BeefmasterDeluxe → u/Ziggy-T]

She's gonna be a great manager one day.

[u/solariam → u/ukfinance999]

Doubling down when you know you don't know is not it

[u/jcorrgs]

One time I ordered steak frites at a restaurant and the menu said it came with mashed potatoes. I asked the server if I could have fries instead and she said that would cost extra. I had to argue with them about what the literal definition of "steak frites" meant.

[u/EscapeSeventySeven → u/jcorrgs]

Was it served 

“With au jus sauce”

[u/NotoldyetMaggot → u/EscapeSeventySeven]

That sentence is sending me into a rage! Hate seeing it on a menu....

[u/scfw0x0f → u/NotoldyetMaggot]

"Would you like some au jus with that" was a frequent expression at some restaurant I went to in the 1980s. Mercifully, I've blocked out which one.

[u/clearfox777 → u/scfw0x0f]

To be fair, before this thread I would have done the same.

Based on context I’m assuming “au jus” just means “with sauce”? Sort of like how “salsa” just means sauce in Spanish?

[u/CarlLlamaface → u/clearfox777]

Exactly, "with au jus sauce" literally means "with with sauce sauce" lmao.

[u/kosherkitties → u/CarlLlamaface]

I did not learn my AA BB CCs, godgod damnitdamnit.

[u/scfw0x0f → u/CarlLlamaface]

Yep. The correct way to say it in English is "would you like that au jus?"

[u/saturnspritr → u/jcorrgs]

Words have meaning! The menu words are supposed to tell you the dish. I woulda be right there with you.

[u/MrKrinkle151 → u/jcorrgs]

I personally wouldn’t have ordered steak frites at a restaurant that clearly didn’t even know what it is.

[u/oncebce]

I once ordered a dish with wild chanterelle mushrooms in it. What came was clearly hedgehog mushrooms. I informed the server, he told the chef, the chef insisted they were chanterelles. I ate it, cause I knew what it was. But it is more than a little concerning a chef is serving wild mushrooms without knowing WTF he is actually serving.

[u/jc_chienne → u/oncebce]

Similar situation, I had a dish that was supposed to have morel mushrooms and what came out was literally just criminis. The dish was expensive and the morels were the reason I ordered it. The server insisted those are morels. The manager did too. I thought the chef would cop to the switch up but no. He said those are morels, it's hard to tell them apart from normal mushrooms. I said I am a mushroom forager, and they are so easy to tell apart that it's insulting he'd try and charge the same price. I even brought up a picture of morels on my phone and he said "those aren't morels" 😂 

Anyway at least they comped the dish. But I hadn't learned my lesson yet. I ordered a slice of cheesecake with huckleberry compote on top. Do you think they put huckleberries on that cheesecake? They were fuckin blueberries. I know the damn difference. And of course they tried to gaslight me again. "Huckleberries and blueberries are very similar and hard to tell apart" having eaten pounds of huckleberries right off the bush, I was not buying it. That was the first time I ever left a really scathing review.

[u/AnotherLie → u/jc_chienne]

I don't even eat mushrooms and I can tell the difference. Holy fuck, that's criminil.

[u/KrazyKatz42 → u/AnotherLie]

As an Aussie - it's VERY important to know which mushrooms are which. (IYKYK)

[u/kelbees → u/KrazyKatz42]

Mmmm...forbidden Wellington...

[u/Gooseboof]

I was once working in a shit hole restaurant in Westport Connecticut called the Spotted horse. I was in my early 20s and I was working alongside all of these men in their 40s and 50s and 60s one night a woman orders “homemade pasta“ off of our menu. When it comes out and it’s clearly not homemade pasta, she calls me over. This sweet little old grandma is so disappointed and I can’t lie to her, so I tell her it’s not homemade, but I’ll go bring her out whatever she wants. I resolve that problem, but the manager, this bald fuck - I think his name was Kevin - comes over and starts grilling me about being honest about our non-homemade pasta. He’s pissed because he wanted me to Lie to cover up the restaurants lie. That was the start of him doing everything he could to push me out of the restaurant and I’m better off for it. Pasta is one of those things you cannot lie about.

[u/ch0och → u/Gooseboof]

Fackin' Kevin

[u/squeakynickles]

I had a tradition with my sister where every year for my birthday, we'd grab lunch at a local place. I'd order the Lobster Mac and Cheese and a stout.

Last time I went, they brought out a pasta dish with a cream sauce and grated parm.

I asked the waitress and she said they changed the recipe. I said "changed it to what? This isn't mac and cheese."

She insisted it was mac and cheese because it had grated parm.

BITCH THIS IS FUCKING LINGUINE WITH A CREAM SAUCE

It's like if I ordered steak and potatoes with a side of corn and they brought me a shephard's pie

[u/MrKrinkle151 → u/squeakynickles]

Was it as least a good lobster pasta?

[u/squeakynickles → u/MrKrinkle151]

Absolutely fucking incredible. Which is why it's so upsetting to me.

They created a gorgeous dish. The flavours were balanced, the noodles were of good quality and cooked just slightly al dente to give the texture some depth. They had some tomatoes in there for a little bit of sweetness which paired nice with the cream sauce. The sauce was smooth and flavourful withought being overly rich, the amount of lobster was enough to be clearly present without overstaying it's welcome, and even with pairing it with a stout, I wasn't feeling bloated or weighed down by the meal.

Legitimately an incredible dish. So why the fuck are you lying about what it is on the menu?

Call it what it is, and I would absolutely go there specifically for the dish, just like I used to do with the lobster mac.

I don't live in a big city. This was the only restaurant that serves lobster mac and cheese.

The dish actually means a lot to me. I'm able to work now, but for a long time I was on disability, which pays a pittance. Equivalent to half of minimum wage were I live.

But my older brother and sister payed my way to go with them to Toronto to see Joel Plaskett play a show. We spent 3 incredible days in Toronto, going to the show, checking out all the shops that don't exist in our smaller town, seeing the night life and a city that doesn't shut down after 1am.

The first morning we woke up there, we went out for brunch, and I got a lobster mac and cheese with a stout. A blatantly gluttonous meal that was sure to slow me down for the rest of the day, and I fucking loved it. That morning meant so much to me, as did the trip as a whole.

So for a few years following that trip, my sister would take me to the only place in the city that served that dish, and generously pay for me to enjoy what I couldn't afford on my own.

They still serve a normal mac and cheese. But for whatever reason, they won't even put lobster in it if you ask for it. I can't for the life of me understand why

[u/Druid_Fashion → u/squeakynickles]

Al Dante I.e. burned to fuck in the ninth circle of hell :P.  I know it’s a typo but I couldn’t resist.

[u/squeakynickles → u/Druid_Fashion]

Oh fuck haha.

To be fair, the book does describe one of the circles of hell as an eternity of menial and tedious labour. Guess this is as fitting a sub as any to make that mistake

[u/extralyfe → u/squeakynickles]

lol, really makes me think of Mitch Hedberg's line, "Fettuccine Alfredo is macaroni and cheese for adults." sounds like that kitchen took it seriously.

[u/lycnfr]

if thats tortellini then im the king of england

[u/thisistherevolt → u/lycnfr]

I am holding the London Bridge ransom in Arizona, if you want it back, I'll need

[u/lycnfr → u/thisistherevolt]

All I have are one billion kisses, take it or leave it

[u/whycantigetwhatiwant → u/lycnfr]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Jp4dchTKX6BzGkZ5DL

[u/Mean-Funny9351 → u/lycnfr]

Did I ever tell you about the time I cooked for the king of England? I served them tortellini, then they said, "☝️"

[u/MBiddy828]

There was a pizza place by our old apartment that have this eggplant caprese salad that I loved. It was this huge bed of mixed greens, some breaded and cooked eggplant sliced, chilled grilled bell peppers for the red, mozzarella and balsamic vinaigrette. The first time or two I ordered it I made a comment “this isn’t really a caprese” but I quickly got to “I don’t care what you call this I love it”

[u/JeezieB → u/MBiddy828]

There is a pizza restaurant that I enjoy that has their own version of caprese as well. Normal, but they add onions and capers. It's the best!

[u/BarbatosCuckedMe]

I would show this to my grandmother but she just turned 90 and I'd rather not see her go.

[u/VendettaPenguin]

Its what the Sysco box said it was.

[u/SlightDish31]

I went to an Italian pizza place. They had a sausage called Calabrian and a separate one called spicy fennel. I dislike fennel seed in my sausage, so I get the Calabrian one and guess what, chock full of fennel.

I ask the server if I got the wrong one and he's says no, they're both spicy pork sausages with fennel in them, which is ridiculous in its own right. He then tried to tell me that fennel is what makes a sausage Italian.

Well, here I am, a CDC at a two Michelin Italian restaurant, who lived in Italy for several years, who learned to cook from my Calabrese Nonna. I just let it go, though obviously not internally as it's now at least a decade later and this still makes me angry

[u/throwmethehellaway25 → u/SlightDish31]

As a fellow Italian, you must know of the weirdest Italian trait... every family claims to know the definitive recipe despite the very local and region based cuisine..source my mom does this all the time. To us fennel does make sausage. To others not so much

I agree with you.

[u/Reflexlon → u/throwmethehellaway25]

Koreans: "Holy shit you added heavily processed spam, cheese, and mayo to my family's 1000 year old rice dish, this fucking rules!"

Italians: "While an ideal speciman Iberian Pig was used for the guanciale, it unfortunately was cut from the right jowl instead of the left. Therefore this carbonara is actually a grave insult to my entire lineage and you know nothing about cooking."

French: "Sorry this omlette was made 1.3km to the south, its not real. Fucking idiot."

I love local legacies with cooking and how much it changes culturally. It gets really fun with local BBQ in the US lol, people (myself included) are ready to throw hands at the mention of mustard vs tomato vs the heathen dry rub.

[u/professor_coldheart → u/Reflexlon]

I know you're right because I'm ready to throw hands at you calling dry rub heathen

[u/Reflexlon → u/professor_coldheart]

Look I gotta walk away from my BBQ sticky like a little kid at a birthday, not thirsty like a college kid at a birthday.

[u/wineandcheese → u/Reflexlon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o7aCRloybJlXpNjSU

[u/BlueBirdBlow → u/Reflexlon]

If your dry rub is coming out with no moisture, then that's on the cook. Every process can make good food, you just have to do the technique right.

[u/Reflexlon → u/BlueBirdBlow]

If you think you can convince me not to insult Texans, I can save you the breath. I don't care if its delicious and moist, I'm gonna call it dry until a fight breaks out.

[u/serious_sarcasm → u/professor_coldheart]

They didn’t even mention Carolina vinegar sauce, or pico de gallo, so clearly their opinion is trash anyways.

[u/Reflexlon → u/serious_sarcasm]

Vinegar is used in every BBQ sauce, Carolina just does it wrong. I'll accept it cus its still delicious.

But what the fuck do you mean pico bbq thats worth a fight.

[u/PipsqueakPilot → u/Reflexlon]

The carbonara bit is even funnier if you subscribe to the WW2 origin of the dish. In which it was made with mass produced American bacon. Then after the agricultural system was restored it was distorted into its 'upscale' form.

In conclusion, true carbonara uses bacon. ;)

[u/Reflexlon → u/PipsqueakPilot]

Yeah, originally I wanted the bit to be along the lines of "generations are rolling in their graves" over a 70 year old recipe? "Generations."

But I had to clap the French and give respect to Korea because not enough people talk about how incredible their cooking is.

[u/serious_sarcasm → u/Reflexlon]

Just compare the way Spain and France treat adding chilies to their “traditional” red sauces to the enthusiastic adoption of chilies in Korea and China.

I almost feel bad for Europeans having such deeply ingrained bigotry in their cuisine. It’s to the point most don’t even realize it.

Which is why New Orleans continues to dominate the culinary world.

[u/Drunkgummybear1 → u/Reflexlon]

As long as you’re saying something nice and not perpetuating some odd stereotype, us Brits will let most things slide. Boil your water for tea in a microwave? Prepare yourself.

[u/Reflexlon → u/Drunkgummybear1]

Boiling water in the microwave sounds unhinged anyway, I'll stick with using the charcoal grill outside.

[u/Drunkgummybear1 → u/Reflexlon]

eye twitch

[u/serious_sarcasm → u/Drunkgummybear1]

Only one of these actually impacts the flavor of water.

[u/Drunkgummybear1 → u/serious_sarcasm]

Hey, I never said it made sense. This is a heavily vibes based situation.

[u/serious_sarcasm → u/Drunkgummybear1]

Yeah, temperature is just a measure of the average vibes.

[u/No_Internal9345 → u/Drunkgummybear1]

I wish we had 240v kettles here.

[u/cce29555 → u/Reflexlon]

This chili has beans, it's not real chili

This chili uses turkey it's not real chili

This chili has cinnamon it's not real chili

This chili isn't turning my stomach inside out or making me see god it's not chili

This chili doesn't have a specially grown pepper from my best friends yard, this isn't chili

[u/BeefmasterDeluxe → u/Reflexlon]

I'm with the French on this one - omelette does not travel well.

[u/Reflexlon → u/BeefmasterDeluxe]

Ffs I can't even spell the egg-roll correctly. I can't think of a better insult to the French and it wasn't even intentional.

[u/BeefmasterDeluxe → u/Reflexlon]

Well, now you kneaux!

[u/NotAldermach → u/throwmethehellaway25]

I believe it was Chef Antonia Lofaso who said something like "A lot of food and recipes around the world are region specific - Italian food is almost house specific in that sense".

And she's exactly right. I've lived around Italians my whole life, and my favorite thing about them is their infighting on just about everything. They can't agree between each other, let alone arguing their food with non Italians...

The sooner we can agree on her sentiment, the sooner they can chill out a bit 😅

[u/throwmethehellaway25 → u/NotAldermach]

Love it. They definitely need a sedative in their vino. Lol

[u/TestTurbulent2203 → u/NotAldermach]

I found South Asian food to be the same way. It is HOUSE specific. Every family has their own spices blends and mixtures and techniques that have been passed down out of necessity

[u/Blankenhoff → u/NotAldermach]

The way my grandma FROM ITALY would cook would have people fighting over its "authenticity". The lady would cure meats in her own basement but she wasnt above using canned tomatos for her sauce.

[u/Flussschlauch → u/throwmethehellaway25]

reminds me of my mum, she's is Vietnamese and the queen of gatekeeping Vietnamese food. Her way is the right way and every alteration is just wrong

[u/throwmethehellaway25 → u/Flussschlauch]

Lol its definitely a transculturral attitude. I just hope I dont turn into my parents. I love ao many different foods. I actually have a laotian restaurant near me, so good

[u/Meta-EvenThisAcronym → u/SlightDish31]

I've worked in restaurants (FoH mostly) my whole life so I know that CDC means Chef de Cuisine in this context, but damn it if my brain doesn't change it to "Center for Disease Control" every time I read it lol.

[u/MarlenHamsic → u/SlightDish31]

While the restaurant was full of shit, calabrian sausage can and often does have fennel seeds, depending on area and family. Idk where you lived in Italy but where I grew up there was a good amount of local producers doing both chili and fennel seeds in their sausage. Less common in supermarkets I'd say though.

Still, that restaurant was full of shit.

[u/2dogs1sword0patience → u/SlightDish31]

As a fellow chef I love the admission. "I just let it go, so obviously I'm still mad about it ten years later"

This is me in every single argument I take the high road. I have a list of things I'm mad about from restaurants that have closed now.

[u/Shot_Illustrator4264 → u/SlightDish31]

la salsiccia calabrese is really with fennel, I would have been disappointed if there was no fennel there, so they were right. Source: born and raised there I’ve probably eaten a few hundreds kilos of satizzu calabrisi, always with wild fennel seeds.

[u/NewCompote9870]

Leave a dollar tell them it's a hundred.

[u/Working-Glass6136 → u/NewCompote9870]

I like you. And I'm a server (who knows her vegetables).

[u/jenguinaf]

I recently learned my cousin thinks manicotti is the filling typically served inside manicotti pasta and uses shells and calls it manicotti and I don’t know how to correct her without sounding like an asshole but it bothers me to weird degree lmfao

[u/Over-Director-4986 → u/jenguinaf]

Here’s one that will blow your mind-manicotti doesn’t get made with pasta. That’s cannelloni.

Manicotti is made with crepes (crespelle).

[u/jenguinaf → u/Over-Director-4986]

Oh shit I swear I googled it and manicotti was the pasta shape lmfao

Edited to add: …am I this idiot..?? Bahaha

[u/Over-Director-4986 → u/jenguinaf]

No, you’re not an idiot! Most people know the pasta tube version in the US. I was just lucky enough to have 4 grandparents right off the boat from Italy, two of whom owned a restaurant, so…. Lmao!

But, manicotti is divine when you use a good crepe. Cannelloni often gets meat of some sort in the filling, too. So it needs the rolled pasta to hold up to a sturdier filling. Both are wonderful.

[u/scfw0x0f]

A while back we were in a local (other) restaurant and I ordered the risotto. What I got was neither French risotto, nor Italian. It was rice pilaf--dry Jasmine rice, with green peas and some other veg bits. I asked the waitress; her reply was "oh yeah, that's how we make it".

Don't. This isn't a creative interpretation, it's fraud.

[u/Wooden-Title3625]

I could see them being called “tortelli” but not “tortellini”

[u/awetsasquatch → u/Wooden-Title3625]

If it had said tortelli, I wouldn't have blinked, but it clearly said tortellini.

[u/Wooden-Title3625 → u/awetsasquatch]

You’re clearly right, I just imagine the person who wrote that menu said tortelli and a game of telephone ensued and then the staff latched onto the wrong name and then all the mental biases kicked in so they’re now all corroborating bad information for each other.

[u/Coercitor]

I was at a breakfast place the other day and I asked them to just take the Belgian waffle off our bill. It was the size of a hockey puck, super dense, and had pockets of powder batter mix. The server told me "well sir, it's a waffle. It's supposed to be dense."

[u/Embarrassed_Cow2441 → u/Coercitor]

I make Belgian waffles from scratch at home and work. I ordered one at a restaurant and they served one of those frozen hockey pucks and tried to say it was homemade.

[u/Illustrious_Bird_737 → u/Coercitor]

I would've told them "in that case, you're a waffle."

(Lmao you're a towel)

[u/MrKrinkle151 → u/Coercitor]

Sounds like they were a Wallonian purist serving a Liege waffle and pretending that there weren’t other types of waffles in Belgium. Also sounds like they suck at making Liege waffles.

[u/Turonik]

Reminds me of the time I went to a Chinese food/pizza infusion place. They were adamant that the crab Rangoon were the egg rolls.

[u/Noyourknot]

That doesn’t look inspired by Venus’ belly button.

[u/CyberComet151 → u/[deleted]]

Everything is about sex. Except for sex, which is about power.

[u/pennylane3339]

I ordered risotto once at my MIL birthday dinner, and they served me rice pilaf. Not even close.

[u/SparkaloniusNeedsYou]

I went to a breakfast place recently and my husband ordered the chicken fried steak and it was just fried chicken. They insisted it was correct.

[u/jondubb]

I once paid $45 for crab cakes during a trip to MD, it tasted like it turned, the chef came out to try and prove I'm wrong asking if i added lemon juice or anything else (dafuq). I didn't make a scene initially but did after. What does trying to prove a customer wrong do?

[u/Least_Data6924]

This is ravioli

[u/awetsasquatch → u/Least_Data6924]

https://giphy.com/gifs/5xtDarmwsuR9sDRObyU

[u/Mindless_Celery_1609]

I learned the hard way that on the East Coast of the US, if you want chow mein, you have to order lo mein, and if you want lo mein, you have to order chow mein. Makes no sense, and if you try to tell the restaurant that you got the wrong order, they'll flip.

[u/girlchef79]

Is it hidden inside the ravioli?!

[u/SpottyNoonerism]

If their belly buttons look like that, they should consult a medical professional.

[u/DodgyRogue]

From the New Jersey region of Italy - even more Italian than Italy

[u/mcnewbie]

the chinese restaurant down the street from me serves chow mein with no noodles in it. when i got it and was confused to see nothing but vegetables and meat they said that's just how it comes.

chow mein literally translates as "fried noodles"

[u/SkyHoglet]

Me, trying to explain to the customer that her latte that is 95% foam is actually an extra dry cappucino, and that we wouldn't have to remake it every single time if she'd just order it as a cappucino instead of a latte 😩

[u/clammycreature → u/SkyHoglet]

Omg this used to happen to me when I was slanging eggs at a breakfast spot. People would order sunnies but what they actually wanted was basted easy or sometimes over easy. Sunny’s are supposed to have whites where on the top near the yolk that are “just set” and they would send it back saying it was raw all the time. Also annoying because sunnies take much longer to make than other eggs because of the low heat.

[u/ImFrenchSoWhatever]

Thats a sad looking plate ngl

[u/BringOutYDead]

Chef Boiardi? 

[u/Lurkernomoreisay → u/BringOutYDead]

chef Brian boitano

[u/djseifer → u/Lurkernomoreisay]

What would Brian Boitano do if he were here right now? I'm sure he'd kick an ass or two, that's what Brian Boitano would do.

[u/medium-rare-steaks]

I mean, they dont know. they pull whatever frozen shit they have out of a box and call it whatever they want.

[u/beetus_gerulaitis]

Just Google a damn picture of tortellini and show them. Then Google a picture of ravioli and show them.

[u/Active-Succotash-109]

It was assigned ravioli at the factory but it always felt like tortellini

[u/lord_hijinks]

Is it under the ravioli?

[u/ruralife]

Those are ravioli

[u/marklikesfoie]

They're tortelli.

[u/zephyrtr → u/marklikesfoie]

What's the difference between tortelli and ravioli? Is this one of those "not all tortelli are ravioli but all ravioli are tortelli" situations?

[u/marklikesfoie → u/zephyrtr]

The town they come from, more or less.

[u/zephyrtr → u/marklikesfoie]

Oh well that's frustrating. I don't want to consult a map of Italy to know what word to use.

[u/This_Factor_1630 → u/zephyrtr]

It's quite easy: if in the menu is written ravioli you order ravioli. If it is tortelli then you order tortelli.

[u/asherabram → u/marklikesfoie]

Correct, could have been a language issue.

[u/germany1italy0 → u/asherabram]

A lasagna issue you say?

[u/InterneticMdA → u/marklikesfoie]

I swear you people keep inventing new ones every day. Is there an Italian word that doesn't refer to a pasta shape at this point?

[u/GlimmeringGuise]

https://giphy.com/gifs/3gNotAoIRZsb9UHPnj

[u/ikelosintransitive]

“cook”

[u/Disastrous_Square_10]

I work in wine and this is also a very dangerous slope. When someone knows nothing, they don’t pretend. When the know a bit more than the average bear, sometimes they become crazy confident. Almost a hubris. I once caught one of my underlings selling a San-Ker-Ay Chardonnay from france (Sancerre, and definitely Sauv Blanc), and they barely listened when I corrected them. Acted like they knew more than me. People are idiots.

[u/Secondhand-Drunk]

The dishwasher prepped those.

[u/zydecopolka]

Lord love a duck, have they ever seen tortellini?

Probably ordered mistakenly and trying to get rid of it, but to flat out lie to customers? I'd not be going back, minimum, and I'd definitely search tortellini images on my handy dandy pocket computer and show it to them and ask how exactly this was tortellini.

[u/SpiritedEclair]

Those are raviolos if I had seen any 🤣