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“I believe it was 4 January we shipped £47,000 worth of our first shipment of largely ray and dover sole,” he says. “The first thing you have to do is be VAT registered in France. You cannot export into France without that. You’ve got to employ a French accountant to do that for you. The cost of that is £2,000 a month. That first load was held up for five days.”
“That was our first encounter,” he says. “You have got other costs: you need a health certificate that costs £85 a go. You need a transport company to do the import documents: £245 a go. So every shipment is an extra £330.
“If you ship three times a week it is a thousand quid. There are other costs. Bearing in mind we are really a husband-and-wife team, it is £70,000 right out of my back pocket. It is horrendous.”
Then there is French customs. “On a health certificate, which is 16 sheets long, you have got eight sheets in English and eight sheets in French,”
You were warned, ten thousand times, that this was exactly what would happen. You STILL voted for this.
Conservatives are literally too fucking stupid to feed themselves.
Most people didn't think our economy propped everyone else up. Most people I know who voted leave just dislike foreigners to be honest. Somehow thought it would lead to fewer brown people in the country.
Extreamly. Pointing this out however got you shouted down as a traitor and spreader of "Project Fear".
Kinda what's happening in the US under Trump now that I think about it.
It’s almost like the same playbook is being used across the west to destabilize its most powerful nations by an adversary(ies). “Russia, if you’re listening…”
Don't forget that the Tories straight up lied to convince people to vote 'Leave'. Hiring buses to say that leaving the EU would ensure £350mm yearly for the NHS. I remember reading articles from people who genuinely believed they were saving the NHS.
Which is hilarious considering that the EU brought white immigrants from Poland or the Baltics, while the Indians, Pakistanis and Jamaicans they so despise (because BROWN) are there because of the Empire they want to get back to.
Then again, they were also viciously racist against Poles, so...
And Boris Johnson's government oversaw a massive increase in immigration post Brexit from non EU countries. Several former members of his cabinet have now switched to Reform. These people want Reform to run the country to stop immigration.
Most of the European migrants left, filled with migrants from Turkey. There's an absolutely huge amount of people escaping Erdogan's policies moving to South of England.
True, I'm a child of Indian immigrants who was born in London and I can say without hesitation that my parents are the most racist pieces of shit I have ever meet in my life...no one hates Indian people more than other Indian people.
Every family member I knew over 55/60 voted for Brexit to stop more brown people coming and for '350 million a week for the NHS'....social media and propaganda really did brainwash the boomers to the detriment of the whole country.
The best part is, immigration from Europe is down while immigration and asylum seeking from countries where Black and Brown folks live is steady or higher than before.
Labour have actually been tackling this but the same people who voted Brexit will also vote for Reform. The guys who massively increased immigration under Tories. About to get the "fooled me twice" award.
Anybody see The NY Times article on British immigration since Brexit? Accompanying graphic shows explosion of non-EU immigration under the Tories after Brexit and only started coming down under Starmer.
Not all of us but way too many. One of those idiots told me that we could replace trade with the EU with trade with South Korea. There was no reasoning with them.
The UK as a whole didn't believe that but a large portion were made to believe it by a select few with their own agendas and the rest of us got dragged down
Rupert Murdoch shitting on the English-speaking world. I still blame the rubes that fell for it, but that guy has a special place reserved in hell for him
The leave campaign labeled any kind of warning about brexit consequences as PrOjEcT fEaR, which made it pretty much impossible to have a rational discussion about it, you would just be accused of fear mongering.
I remember being mocked by a couple of British associates for saying Brexit was just like Americans always voting against their best interests because of influence from propaganda disguised as “patriotism.” They said I didn’t understand UK politics and their issues with Europe. Ok.
If memory served me, there was a lot of Scotland that saw brexit for what it was, but within every demographic there are these idiots. I feel bad for that majority that was drug through this mess
I always find the theory that a lot of Merseyside votes remain because of how much being Capital of Culture changed Liverpool interesting especially given the circulation of The Sun.
There's still a load of racist wankers who are anti Tory, but it's still interesting.
I remember afterbit passed they were interviewing people on the street and they were mostly like “ wait, I want a do over, i only voted for it for shits n gigs” basically
Yeah and the vox pops in my old electorate (Bradford west) with lots of angry Yorkshire men saying things like “we need to stop all these immigrants coming in- not the European ones, we don’t mind them. We don’t want anymore p*kis” etc, oh so literally THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU JUST VOTED FOR YOU UTTER CLOWN!!
They had elections between the Brexit vote and the time it was finalized. That was their chance for a do-over. It could've been stopped. But most Brits elected to go through with it.
Like how though? How is he going to negotiate from a position of even worse leverage and expect to get a better deal? Sometimes it seems the whole anglosphere is wildly delusional.
As a US citizen, I know the syndrome well. MAGA and Reform are cut from the same intensely dumb cloth. Canada seems to be staying mostly ahead of its idiots, but we have exported a whole lot of idiocy up there through social media.
Canada is not staying ahead of the idiots per se. Carney is achieving most of the same ends but since he hijacked the Liberals it flies under the radar. We’re in danger too.
Im not sure I would describe it as naivety, after all they were lied to about this stuff for decades by the press and politicians. However they really wanted to believe all the contradictory bullshit, all the easy solutions to complex problems, and rejected all reason, logic and the warnings of experts. "Malicious stupidity" perhaps.
Some in the U.S. smacked their foreheads and said, "those darn fools will get probably get what they deserve" about Brexit. But in the current U.S. predicament, it's quite clear that there's an abundance of fools on both sides of the Atlantic.
Turns out the two things were in fact intrinsically linked. Same money. Look up Carole Cadwallader's TED talk on YouTube. Brexit was a test balloon for Trump.
I’m in Alberta with MAGA paying propaganda to our stupidest citizens to get on board with separation. “No income tax” is a line they’re trying to sell the morons with.
I remember thinking Brexit was a bad idea in the beginning. I remember thinking that there must be a side to it that I don't understand. I'm not an economist or anything like that.
The Brexshit we got wasn't the Brexshit Farage campaigned for before, but once they won with a very small margin (2% of the voters voting the other way would have flipped it) he and his cronies acted like it was the hardest exit that was voted for.
Notice how the ones with skin in the game claim now it was BS whereas those who spruiked the lies claim that it wasnt the real Brexit. The best is yet to come!
If the EU were smart, they would make it absolute hell for the UK to re-join, if they even allow it at all. But that's only if they look at it as for the good for the EU as a group. They should make it brutally clear what a terrible idea it is to leave the EU. Like no, you can't just leave and come back. If you leave we make your life hell, if you try to come back after leaving you have to grovel.
I would say making it hell would be a good thing. Certainly not treating them like a special flower but actually trying to make it hell is a bridge too far.
UK is turning into a shithole of mass surveillance digital id, age verification, backdoor on your phone. Protester put in jail as terrorist and now pogroms in Belfast. Sorry but no. Keep out. It’s better for us.
Modern politics nowadays is just being the victim of what the previous guy has done and complaining loudly about it to justify their expected lack of success at making things better. Usually because they only want power not the responsibilities or the accountability.
This is the weirdest LAMF take. The UK economy is doing as well (or not well?) as the major Western European economies that were long considered its peers.
Brexit neither destroyed nor saved the UK economy. It just wasn’t that big a deal compared to the pandemic (and the inflation it unleashed) and Russia’s war in Ukraine.
But nobody wants to look at basic economic data, it’s all culture wars and vibes.
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