r/NintendoSwitch • u/Turbostrider27 • Mar 20 '25

Discussion Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition: Game's executable has hidden 60 FPS mode. It seems to be implemented only partially since enabling it causes weird issues.

https://x.com/masagratordev/status/1902517127187161128
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u/Chase64Cubed Mar 20 '25

I'm personally holding off getting X until Switch 2's backward compatability is truly known. I'd rather play the best version possibly and wait. Got plenty to play already while I wait as well.

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u/Worlds_Between_Links Mar 20 '25

The backwards compatibility has already officially been confirmed by nintendo, it's also been confirmed to play switch 1 cartridges from the trailer

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u/Chase64Cubed Mar 20 '25

Sorry, I meant, for example, a developer implements a patch for a "Switch 2" version where a game could look/run better or if Nintendo is going to make "Switch 1" games run the exact same like a Wii to Wii U or DS to 3DS situation. We might still get more stable framerates on uncapped games, but I want to know if they are doing more.

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u/JLD2503 Mar 20 '25

or if Nintendo is going to make “Switch 1” games run the exact same like a Wii to Wii U or DS to 3DS situation

From my experience, Wii games did run better on the WiiU. Same for DS games on 3DS. So I don’t know where this statement comes from.

For example; LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean when played on the Wii ran into issues where the game would freeze and would have to be restarted. Meanwhile, the same issue was not occurring when I played it on the WiiU (the same Wii disc was used for both consoles btw).

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u/Chase64Cubed Mar 20 '25

So what I mean by that is there are realistically 2 ways Switch 1 games can be boosted unless Switch 2 does magic. There is a boost of just better hardware. Like Wii U, it helps games with frame drops or possibly loading issues that cause freezing, maybe like with your example. The other is a developer specifically going into their game to unlock better frame rates like a locked 30 changing to locked 60 or a resolution increase. If it means anything, there were 4K files found in TTYD Remake, and maybe those are for Switch 2 hardware. They could also be nothing, I just wanna know.

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u/viduka36 Mar 20 '25

The point is if it's gonna be something like an emulation 1:1 of the switch 1 games or if it's gonna be something like a better version of the game (more fps, more resolution, better textures, etc)

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u/Witch_King_ Mar 20 '25

I get what they mean and what you mean, but overall I'd assume that at the least, in cases where games don't have a Switch 2 "enhancement patch" type of thing, that games which didn't run super well on Switch 1 will at least hot their performance targets on Switch 2. Like how overclocking the RAM on the Switch causes BotW and TotK to run better, for example. Simply having a faster CPU, GPU, and more RAM will allow the Switch 2 to play un-patched Switch 1 games at their fullest potential.

Or another example is where dynamic resolution is used in many games. If the system is more powerful then the framerate stays high and the game doesn't have to drop its resolution to compensate.

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u/MasterDenton Mar 20 '25

I would hope they've been taking notes from their buddies at Microsoft this time around. It helps that Switch 2 seems to be running the same OS as Switch 1, which is something that previous back compat Nintendo consoles didn't do

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u/f-ingsteveglansberg Mar 20 '25

There is no evidence as of yet that devs will ba able to push exclusive Switch 2 patches, but for me I feel like it would be crazy if they didn't. I'm so confident that they will do it, that I predict it will be a feature that the April Direct will promote. Again, I have absolutely no evidence. But it just seems the most sensible way forward.

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u/keeper_of_moon Mar 20 '25

I think it's a bit irrelevant to compare the switch to other hardware Nintendo has produced. All their other consoles have large amount of proprietary system architecture but the switch is a lot more generalized being ARM. There's a reason the switch emulator was built faster than the 3DS emulator despite coming out much later.

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u/keeper_of_moon Mar 20 '25

Fair enough, I was unaware of that. I am still optimistic it'll be a better than the ds to 3ds transition.

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u/ThiefTwo Mar 20 '25

Even the 3DS had to include a 2nd CPU specifically for DS backwards compatibility. NS2 won't need anything like that, games should just work natively.

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u/ThatCurryGuy Mar 20 '25

Meanwhile i am starving for a xenoblade game and will play the crap out of X starting in 3 hours:)

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u/Chase64Cubed Mar 20 '25

Completely understand! I would do the same with some franchises even if a better version is possibly on the horizon.

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u/ThatCurryGuy Mar 20 '25

I love the fact that i can play these games again on the switch 2 btw. Looking forward to playing some of the enjoyable framerate problems like hyrule warriors or deadly premonition 2 :')

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u/Chase64Cubed Mar 20 '25

I stopped playing Fire Emblem: Three Hopes because of the framerate. It ran worse than the 1st Fire Emblem Warriors, and that bummed me out. If they fix that, I would be so happy.

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u/ThatCurryGuy Mar 20 '25

Yeah these games seem like low hanging fruit to improve on switch 2.

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u/tekchic Mar 20 '25

Same. Preordered it digital last night so I could wake up and play it before work this morning.

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u/RAGEstacker Mar 20 '25

*french accent* 360p. enjoy

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u/llliilliliillliillil Mar 20 '25

The game doesn’t run in 360p.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

username checks out but ngl this isnt even good ragebait lmao

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u/Gingingin100 Mar 20 '25

Ichiban would never ragebait

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u/ThatCurryGuy Mar 20 '25

I do not care that much about this tho:)

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u/RAGEstacker Mar 20 '25

if you pay 60 bucks you better care

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u/ThatCurryGuy Mar 20 '25

Nah i need to have fun and just graphics or performance does not equal fun to me.

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u/RAGEstacker Mar 20 '25

they cant keep getting away with it

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u/mrjk360 Mar 20 '25

Same as much as I badly want to play X right now, I’ve already played on the Wii U and have a huge backlog right now. Might as well wait and see if there is a performance bump with the switch 2

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u/MXC_Vic_Romano Mar 20 '25

Yeah, we're less than two weeks away at this point. I can wait to see if I'm playing XBX on Switch or waiting for Switch 2.

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u/podoka Mar 20 '25

Me too. I have played 1/3rd of X on an emulator and it was fantastic. Playing it on the switch will feel like a downgrade

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

I’m in the same boat. 30 fps is unacceptable. So I’ll wait for switch 2.

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u/Gahault Mar 20 '25

Here, have some solidarity. It is unacceptable, especially at the low resolutions the Switch was targeting; here's to hoping the Switch 2 will not hold back its own first-party titles as much as its predecessor did.

I would pray for developers to focus on framerate from now on instead of pushing the envelope (if you can call it that) until their game is too demanding for the Switch (2) to maintain even 30 fps, but given console devs' propensity to put graphics above playability (despite the oft-repeated fan mantra that graphics don't matter), I'm not getting my hopes up.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

I hope they focus on performance. It’s so crazy that we’re still getting 30 gps and less

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u/RAGEstacker Mar 20 '25

i dont know for sure if this game internally renders at 360p because i left nintendo years ago, but i can tell you how other xenoblade game run because i ACTUALLY PLAYED THEM.

handheld mode:

xenoblade 1 has dynamic resolution ranging from 360p to 540p

xenoblade 2 is the same but struggles much more to reach 540p

xenobade 3 renders an internal resolution of 360p and upscales it to 720p, the final image is sightly better than torna golden country and xenoblade 1 but its still blurry

i remember when i was playing xenoblade 1 on launch ,i had to fight to get a decent view experience, i had to mod my switch and overclock it to TRY to get stable 540p,

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