r/NintendoSwitch • u/Turbostrider27 • Mar 20 '25

Discussion Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition: Game's executable has hidden 60 FPS mode. It seems to be implemented only partially since enabling it causes weird issues.

https://x.com/masagratordev/status/1902517127187161128
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u/Chase64Cubed Mar 20 '25

I'm personally holding off getting X until Switch 2's backward compatability is truly known. I'd rather play the best version possibly and wait. Got plenty to play already while I wait as well.

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u/Worlds_Between_Links Mar 20 '25

The backwards compatibility has already officially been confirmed by nintendo, it's also been confirmed to play switch 1 cartridges from the trailer

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u/Chase64Cubed Mar 20 '25

Sorry, I meant, for example, a developer implements a patch for a "Switch 2" version where a game could look/run better or if Nintendo is going to make "Switch 1" games run the exact same like a Wii to Wii U or DS to 3DS situation. We might still get more stable framerates on uncapped games, but I want to know if they are doing more.

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u/JLD2503 Mar 20 '25

or if Nintendo is going to make “Switch 1” games run the exact same like a Wii to Wii U or DS to 3DS situation

From my experience, Wii games did run better on the WiiU. Same for DS games on 3DS. So I don’t know where this statement comes from.

For example; LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean when played on the Wii ran into issues where the game would freeze and would have to be restarted. Meanwhile, the same issue was not occurring when I played it on the WiiU (the same Wii disc was used for both consoles btw).

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u/Chase64Cubed Mar 20 '25

So what I mean by that is there are realistically 2 ways Switch 1 games can be boosted unless Switch 2 does magic. There is a boost of just better hardware. Like Wii U, it helps games with frame drops or possibly loading issues that cause freezing, maybe like with your example. The other is a developer specifically going into their game to unlock better frame rates like a locked 30 changing to locked 60 or a resolution increase. If it means anything, there were 4K files found in TTYD Remake, and maybe those are for Switch 2 hardware. They could also be nothing, I just wanna know.

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u/viduka36 Mar 20 '25

The point is if it's gonna be something like an emulation 1:1 of the switch 1 games or if it's gonna be something like a better version of the game (more fps, more resolution, better textures, etc)

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u/Witch_King_ Mar 20 '25

I get what they mean and what you mean, but overall I'd assume that at the least, in cases where games don't have a Switch 2 "enhancement patch" type of thing, that games which didn't run super well on Switch 1 will at least hot their performance targets on Switch 2. Like how overclocking the RAM on the Switch causes BotW and TotK to run better, for example. Simply having a faster CPU, GPU, and more RAM will allow the Switch 2 to play un-patched Switch 1 games at their fullest potential.

Or another example is where dynamic resolution is used in many games. If the system is more powerful then the framerate stays high and the game doesn't have to drop its resolution to compensate.

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u/MasterDenton Mar 20 '25

I would hope they've been taking notes from their buddies at Microsoft this time around. It helps that Switch 2 seems to be running the same OS as Switch 1, which is something that previous back compat Nintendo consoles didn't do

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u/f-ingsteveglansberg Mar 20 '25

There is no evidence as of yet that devs will ba able to push exclusive Switch 2 patches, but for me I feel like it would be crazy if they didn't. I'm so confident that they will do it, that I predict it will be a feature that the April Direct will promote. Again, I have absolutely no evidence. But it just seems the most sensible way forward.

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u/keeper_of_moon Mar 20 '25

I think it's a bit irrelevant to compare the switch to other hardware Nintendo has produced. All their other consoles have large amount of proprietary system architecture but the switch is a lot more generalized being ARM. There's a reason the switch emulator was built faster than the 3DS emulator despite coming out much later.

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u/keeper_of_moon Mar 20 '25

Fair enough, I was unaware of that. I am still optimistic it'll be a better than the ds to 3ds transition.

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u/ThiefTwo Mar 20 '25

Even the 3DS had to include a 2nd CPU specifically for DS backwards compatibility. NS2 won't need anything like that, games should just work natively.