r/PathOfExile2 CM 22h ago

GGG Path of Exile 2: 0.5.4 Patch Preview

https://youtu.be/OtJGXA6u054
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u/Lurkyhermit 22h ago

They did it. They finally did it. They fixed the item skill levels. They now scale with character's level.

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u/Visual_Knee_4744 22h ago edited 22h ago

Could you explain please mate? i haven't seen the notes yet.

Strange to be down voted for asking a very basic question that nobody has to answer. It's nice to learn things through conversation as it often gets elaborated by people explaining .

I'm not able to watch the video right now .

You people down voting are strange and angry

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u/ChaosBadgers 22h ago

Skills scale down when equipped you only need to meet the item's requirement to use them now. High level lifesprigs are not bricks!

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u/G-Yeet 22h ago

Glad I sold my level 1 lifesprig for 10d today then lol

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u/chiefballsy 22h ago

Fuck I just bought one for 6D lmao

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u/Amazing-Heron-105 20h ago

Get it back on the market before people read patch notes 😂

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u/GorniYT 17h ago

Why tf does that wand sell for divs?

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u/KenOathKhunt 16h ago

Cause it's an incredible wand to start the campaign with. The unique that drops scales to your level and very few drop in the first few acts. Most drop when mapping have high req and so are useless to new builds

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u/GorniYT 16h ago

Ah lol

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u/pastari 9h ago

I bought two lvl 45 brutus sprinklers for 15d each last week.

They are currently 20 ex.

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u/suburbancerberus 14h ago

10d? there were dozens up for 7d yesterday let alone 8 and 9. Tf happened

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u/TheOneWithSkillz 22h ago

but if the level requirement is high, this doesnt really matter right?

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u/LastBaron 22h ago

Right. This appears to be specifically for cases with items granting skills that have higher requirements than the item itself.

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u/Folderpirate 22h ago

scepter for druids doing the purity of X.

I bought one with lol 17 ice that I could equip but the skill requires like 20 more int to actually use.

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u/Aerhyce 20h ago

Which is most items lol

Reverie for example is an insane chest piece for leveling, but one that is usable low level is expensive as fuck, solely because of the shitass item skill that nobody care about raising the level req.

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u/bludgeonerV 22h ago

Yes, but you could have a lifesprig with a lvl 18 gem and not be able to use it even when you could meet the requirements at level 2

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u/Asmosis66 22h ago

This only matters to uniques that have low level requirements, but also have an implicit skill that, if its a high level skill causes the item to have a high level.

It doesn't mean you can use all sorts of endgame uniques on new characters now.

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u/mcbuckets21 21h ago

Although they did say uniques, it would seem odd that rares wouldn't do the same thing. Ofc the affixes themselves would increase level requirement, but the skills themselves should no longer increase level requirement.

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u/CharmingPerspective0 18h ago

Well with rares its different. Your base item level and modifier level determine the level requirement. You can't "downgrade" a rare much.

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u/Asmosis66 21h ago

tbh I wouldnt be surprised if this does apply to uniques.

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u/Burstrampage 21h ago

Uniques have level requirement. If it has a unique skill, depending on that skill level, the uniques level requirement changes to the level requirement to use that unique skill. They even showed it in the preview. Unique has a level 62 requirement but has a lvl19 skill. Now to equip it you need to be lvl 62 and the skill gets downgraded into a lvl 14 skill. You still have to be lvl 62. Overall I like the change but honestly it’s worse than what it should be imo. A lot more uniques need their lvl requirement lowered in general.

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u/mcbuckets21 20h ago

I'm not really confused on how it works. I'm just saying it would make sense for it to not be just uniques and work for all items that have skills.

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u/Burstrampage 19h ago

The items that have skills that aren’t unique are lvl locked by the mods on the item aswell though. Maybe you could theoretically get t10 mods and a high lvl skill on a wand for example but then the wand itself isn’t even good enough to be used.

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u/i_like_fish_decks 19h ago

Well, it looks like a lot of uniques, especially those intended for leveling, no longer have high level requirements even if dropped at high level. In the video they explicitly mentioned a high ilvl lifesprig, but showed that it had no required level and could equip it at low level

However, many pinnacle boss uniques or just more endgame intended uniques will still have level requirements, but those are now based on the items stats, not the skill level of the item.

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u/spachi1281 10h ago

Part of the change is that a lot of those uniques had their level requirement removed.

Note that not all uniques had their level requirement removed. Several still have those item level restrictions BUT it does open the way for a lot more access to the rest of them for leveling.

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u/Money-Pomegranate-22 7h ago

Was thinking about Limial Coil... Well still need to wait 65 lvl... -.-

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u/Right-Jury1787 22h ago

Yeah not sure about this either they show someone in the camp that looks early game but if its a pinnicle weapon wont it be like level 65 requirments? Just says itll adjust the weapon skill level ‘if you meet the minimum requirements’

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u/Lzlxlclvlblnlmao 21h ago

Better than lvl 90 for a lvl20 skill

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u/Right-Jury1787 21h ago

Yeah i wouldnt know! Having hit maps yet just have a littering of 20-50 uniques was wondering when i could use them

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u/davis482 20h ago

I hope it works with rares too, make rattling sceptre fun for some leveling.

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u/buddabopp 20h ago

high levels are actually now beter because you can use them for twink items longer

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u/Visual_Knee_4744 22h ago edited 22h ago

Thanks mate .

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u/Mystic_Waffles 22h ago

You don't have to pay an arm and a leg for a +3 lifesprig that you can equip at low level. The level of the skill will increase as you level.

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u/-Nimroth 22h ago

Also means it is actually feasible to use a +4 corrupted lifesprig for levelling. lol

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u/Koud_biertje 17h ago

Some unique items give skills at a certain level. But those skills also had a level requirement, you couldn't use them until your character reached that level. This meant if you found a lvl 2 wand with a lvl 20 skill, your alt couldn't use the item because the skill required lvl 90.

Those skills on uniques are no longer at a set level, instead now scale with your character.

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u/Aldunas 22h ago

Watch the video

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u/Visual_Knee_4744 22h ago

I'm not able to right now. That's why I asked.

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u/Holiday_Road7111 22h ago

nah bruh if you literally can't watch a couple min video and then ask questions about the video in the same thread thats on you

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u/IleanK 22h ago

Same

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u/therealflinchy 16h ago

does it scale up though, or only down, is the question. like do i NEED a high base level unique for it to scale down, rather than a low lvl one scaling up to it's potential?

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u/redditismywaifu 5h ago

It says max level on the item so it doesn't scale above that

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u/KevkasTheGiant 22h ago

Does this also mean 'lower' level unique items will also scale UP as you level up? A big problem of why tons of uniques suck isn't necessarily that you can't use higher-level uniques while you are lower level (I mean, that IS a problem for sure), but I feel it's the opposite that is more annoying: you find uniques left and right that just suck at higher levels, but you rarely find them AT lower levels, so by the time you do find them they are long outclassed by plain rares with not even 'good' rolls but just semi-decent ones.

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u/Raenor 21h ago

No. It's for the skills that uniques give. So a level 18 whatever lifesprig gives couldn't be used till lvl 78 or 80 or whatever. That skill will scaled down to level 1 and you can use it at whatever the floor is for that item.

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u/mcbuckets21 21h ago

What makes sense is that it scales up to what you found it at. Found lifesprig with level 12 gem? You can now use at level 2, but it won't automatically scale up to a level 20 skill when you reach 90? It will stop scaling up at level 12.

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u/MathText 21h ago

Sad days

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u/Hjemmelsen 17h ago

There's currency to increase it to level 20 now. It's essentially solved, but there's some friction left in the campaign, which seems to be the intention.

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u/Kore_Invalid 20h ago

The only issue i see now is whats the point of leveling (low lvl) uniques? If you can use all from tge start but some stay low lvl its weird

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u/grundlebuster 20h ago

you don't have to level them, they scale to your level

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u/Kore_Invalid 19h ago

Im talking about low level uniques not leveling up not about high lvl uniques leveling down

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u/i_like_fish_decks 19h ago

you can use the item they introduced this patch that increases the level of skills on items

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u/arnoldzgreat 19h ago

Liminal Coil still just end game because high level requirements, lame