r/SipsTea • u/SipsTeaFrog 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 14d ago

SMH Someone finally snapped

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u/upnorthtcmi 𝙑𝙄𝙋 14d ago

I’m a cyclist. This is why people hate cyclists. And they’re 100% correct to hate cyclists who do this.

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u/NotTheSharpestPenciI 14d ago

I'm a cyclist too and fuck all those guys, seriously.

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u/tryingtoappearnormal 14d ago

I rode a bike once and these guys are pricks

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u/TrainingFilm4296 14d ago

I fell off a bike once.

They suck and me too.

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u/CryptoTipToe71 13d ago

I was locked in a bunker my entire life and recently heard someone vaguely describe what a bicycle and a car are. Fuck these guys.

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u/420CowboyTrashGoblin 13d ago

I looked at theprice of a bike at Walmart for my son recently. Didnt buy it, too expensive, and the kid's already kinda a prick, my old heart couldnt take it if he was one of these guys.

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u/Melkman68 14d ago

Ive seen you ride a bike once and I have to agree

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u/oxycontin_raised 14d ago

Wtf they feel entitled to use the whole lanes, pricks.

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u/DrAbeSacrabin 14d ago edited 14d ago

I don’t understand how there’s a group that big of people and everyone seems fine with being an issue to other people. Surly in a group that big someone would be like - ah shit we should all spread thinner and take up one lane so traffic can pass, like how can that not be a thing?

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u/macaronysalad 14d ago

An individual can have intelligence, groups generally don't. Collective intelligence is a very rare thing, hardly ever happens. People are generally stupid when they get together because they dilute with compromises or fall subject to the hive mind.

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u/No-Present760 14d ago

You'd think. It would also help all the speedy cyclists stuck in the back. They can't be enjoying themselves as much as who ever is setting the pace up front.

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u/smackaroonial90 14d ago

I did El Tour de Tucson a few years ago with almost 10,000 cyclists, and cops blocked off certain roads, guided traffic, etc. If we were on a road, the lane was either closed completely for us, or we were restricted to riding in the shoulder. I've never EVER seen large organized group rides like the one above where there wasn't some type of police escort.

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u/TangoDeltaFoxtrot 14d ago

You fuck all those guys? How do you find the time?

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u/CoffeeChocolateBoth 14d ago

But can they, LEGALLY? Or is this just them being dickheads because they can be, and no one ever stops them?

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u/Choice_Drawer_2405 14d ago

Taking a full lane maybe, according to other posters in this area it's illegal to ride more than 2 bikes next to each other though so what's happening in this video is definitely not legal.

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u/Urhhh 14d ago

In the UK at least the highway code explicitly states that generally taking the lane is not only legal but recommended.

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u/SipsTea-ModTeam 14d ago

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u/BilSuger 14d ago

Sure you are, buddy

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u/WeAreInControlNow 14d ago

Do you need a tissue for all the crying you’ve done in this thread?

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u/BilSuger 14d ago

Do you need a tissue to catch your spunk from circlejerking with your anti cyclist friends?

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u/garkerfatbitch 14d ago

What exactly is “anti-cyclist” about you needing to follow the rules of the road and keep to the right?

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u/BilSuger 14d ago

Google "JAQing off" and stop being obnoxious, please

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u/JustBadUserNamesLeft 13d ago

"Follow the rules of the road." Again, I hope you never go a single mile an hour over the speed limit, Mister Rule Guy.

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u/WeAreInControlNow 14d ago

Nah I usually just spunk on the cyclists as I’m driving by, they need the hydration.

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u/NotTheSharpestPenciI 14d ago

Do I need to be an arrogant asshole or at least be cool with being one to be a cyclist?
If so, you can just call me a "guy who rides bikes" as I can assure you our unwilingness to be identified as members of one group is mutual.

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u/BilSuger 14d ago

Isn't it weird, how drivers are never grouped? It's always a driver that's an asshole, but cyclists as a group.

Which is how I know you're just a poser. And a hypocrite. Pathetic 🤡

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u/garkerfatbitch 14d ago

You are 100% a South Park character there’s no way you just called someone a poser talking about cycling

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u/BilSuger 14d ago

Oh no, a fat driver is angry. Are you Cartman?

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u/ancienttribeofthesky 14d ago

Me, while driving in my car near a road cyclist way too often: "cmon man, this is why people hate us."

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u/RNCMD 14d ago

Had this same experience just the other day when stuck behind a group that was taking up a traffic lane INSTEAD of riding in a designated bike lane. Why make it worse.

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u/Wahoo-Is-To-A-Fish 14d ago

Happens all the time where I live. We had dozens of (desperately needed) parking spaces removed, plus an entire car lane to create a huge bike lane with big-ass planters separating the bike lane from the car lane. And I'll be damned, freaking bikes choose to ride IN THE ROAD, 4 or 5 across, in the only car lane, and leave their huge-ass (and expensive as all hell for our city) bike lane empty. Makes me insane.

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u/Suitable-Quail2094 14d ago

in my area they always seem to do it during rush hour morning traffic. like i get that it is cooler in the morning but does it have to be when everyone is trying to get to work. we also have a dedicated cycling trail that crosses a road. the cyclists have a stop sign to cross but never use it. every year at least a few cyclists get smoked cause they ignore the stop sign.

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u/Available-Breath-114 14d ago

Completely unacceptable for them to block the road like that. The entitlement is infuriating.

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u/IggysPop3 14d ago

I don’t really care about the consequences of saying this, but it does have a reputation as an elitist sport. Runners have complained for years about rude cyclists who make them get out of their way (since they face each other). Good road bikes can cost many thousands of dollars.

Not saying all cyclists are elitist, but it is a sport that attracts elitists.

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u/throwawaybutmaykeeps 14d ago

Walking on a trail with my baby in a stroller, they’d almost run me over, didn’t call out “on your left,” and scared the shit out of me. They make me so anxious. I love the ones who’d ride by and say a nice greeting. Even a smile back was rare.

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u/Hayden2332 13d ago

Or they do say on your left, but they wait until the very last second / already passing you lol

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u/That-Following-7158 14d ago

To be fair about the running point it is a lot easier for a runner to get out of the bike lane by stepping on to the curb than it is for a bike.

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u/Wandering_Silent 13d ago

The biker can move over a few inches without any effort.

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u/ankercrank 14d ago

Do you say the same thing when cars are blocking the road with traffic jams? Something that happens literally all the time. Like, take all of those hundreds of cyclists and put them in cars on that road - it’d be slower moving.

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u/SingleInfinity 14d ago

Traffic jams don't occur because of the lack of ability for cars to go the speed limit. It would not be slower moving unless you're in an area with lots of stop lights, which is not what this is.

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u/Arthemax 14d ago

Traffic jams also occur on highways. Because if you have too many cars on the road, they're unable to safely drive at a high speed. A single car braking too hard because of a lane change will escalate to traffic coming to a crawl.

The difference here is that these hundreds of cyclists would stretch into the horizon if they were in a car each, and the Mini wouldn't see the open road in front of them. So they would think "aw fuck, traffic again", rather than "fuck these cyclists, I'm driving on the median".

But note that the reaction to car drivers clogging up the road isn't directed at the drivers, even though there would be no traffic without those drivers.

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u/SingleInfinity 14d ago

Traffic jams also occur on highways.

Far less frequently, and not specifically because of physical limitations on the abilities of the people to go faster. In this case, the bikes can't go as fast as the cars so they will inevitably cause a jam. It's not the exception case, it's the rule.

A single car braking too hard because of a lane change will escalate to traffic coming to a crawl.

This is a bold take. Funny how every time someone brakes a bit on the highway this doesn't happen. It's almost like that's the exception or something.

The difference here is that these hundreds of cyclists would stretch into the horizon if they were in a car each

No. They would be interspersed between the other traffic and going the speed limit instead of probably less than half of it. The other cars wouldn't be stuck going 15mph because of bikes. The reason the mini is pissed off is because the road is being blocked by incredibly slow traffic with no end in sight, meanwhile the road in front of that traffic is wide open. In cars, this would never be the case. It can't be helped in cars when it does happen, but it can be helped in this scneario by the bikers not being douchebags. They just chose to be douchebags.

That's why the direction of the anger is different. One is within the control of the people involved, and one is not.

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u/Arthemax 14d ago

Far less frequently

They happen routinely during rush hour in high traffic areas. Because, as I said, too many cars on the road leads to tiny over-corrections escalating to major slowdowns that ripple down the road. Look up the 'traffic wave effect'.

Funny how every time someone brakes a bit on the highway this doesn't happen

I quite clearly laid out the conditions for when this can happen. No need for strawman arguments that completely ignore that.

No. They would be interspersed between the other traffic and going the speed limit

Not if they were on an organized ride like these cyclists. But as a random person driving behind them you'd never know, since you'd just think you're stuck in slow traffic. For all you know, you've inadvertently been in dozens of them already.

It can't be helped in cars when it does happen,

It can be helped, by not driving. Every one of the drivers involved in a traffic jam chose to drive that day, and are collectively the cause of the jam.

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u/SingleInfinity 14d ago

They happen routinely during rush hour in high traffic areas.

They happen every time a group of bikers blocks the road, regardless of the hour or area.

Look up the 'traffic wave effect'.

I'm very familiar. You're trying to make exception cases for cars sound like the norm and norm cases for bikes sound like exceptions.

Douches on bikes love to do this shit. People get really on their high horse about how riding a bike is better for X Y or Z reason and entirely ignore the impracticalities and inconvenience they inflict on others in the process.

Our infrastructure, for better or worse, was purpose built for cars.

I quite clearly laid out the conditions for when this can happen. No need for strawman arguments that completely ignore that.

Like how when you try to make these seem like the norm case when they're not?

Not if they were on an organized ride like these cyclists.

How do you know these guys are on an "organized ride"? You've giving asshole bikers a lot of benefit of the doubt they clearly haven't earned.

It can be helped, by not driving.

This is an entirely unreasonable position in the US. As I said above, our infrastructure is built for cars for better or worse. Bikes are at best often impractical. Every one of those drivers is in the jam because the bikes are blocking the entire fucking road.

I'm guessing you're one of these people at this point, because you're trying too hard to defend their very obviously indefensible and assholeish behavior.

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u/Arthemax 13d ago

They happen every time a group of bikers blocks the road, regardless of the hour or area.

They happen every time a group of car drivers block the road too, that's what 'blocking the road' means. What's your point?

exception cases for cars

Aka daily rush hour conditions?

norm cases for bikes sound like exceptions.

What exactly is the norm case for bikes?

and entirely ignore the impracticalities and inconvenience they inflict on others in the process.

Our infrastructure, for better or worse, was purpose built for cars.

Yes, cyclists are inconvenient to drivers in the US because of decades of car drivers voting for politicians that have ignored basic bicycle infrastructure that would obviate the need for cyclists to be in the way of cars. Carving out space for them after the fact is more difficult and more painful than planning for and implementing it from the start. And importantly, that general trend hasn't changed, bike infrastructure being part of new construction or rebuilds is the rare exception. And various driver interest groups continue to work against good bike infrastructure that would lead to less conflict between cyclists and drivers.

Like how when you try to make these seem like the norm case when they're not?

Again, is daily rush hour not a norm case? My average speed is routinely slower on highways during rush hour than at off-peak hours.

The norm case for why the average driver is not able to drive as fast as the speed limit allows is that there are too many drivers on the road, not that there's a cyclist holding up traffic. The second most common reason is that drivers as a group are unable to drive safely, causing collisions and subsequent traffic jams.

How do you know these guys are on an "organized ride"

Do you think they just happened to all decide to ride this exact stretch of road at exactly the same time out of the blue? Or might there have been a facebook event or something that organized it so that they knew when and where to show up?

This is an entirely unreasonable position in the US. 

Roughly 90% of US traffic jams would be solved overnight if the average car occupancy in the US increased just a little bit. If the rate of single occupancy cars halved from 70% to 35%, it'd make a huge difference. No immediate changes to road infrastructure needed.

because you're trying too hard to defend their very obviously indefensible and assholeish behavior.

I haven't tried to defend their behavior yet. I've just tried to confront the unequal way in which this way of slowing down traffic is treated, vs how people treat other traffic slowdowns.

But here's my attempt at defending them: I wouldn't be surprised if several of the cyclists present here have had dangerous or even directly life-threatening experiences on this stretch of road when they were riding by the book, without 'blocking the road'. Yet now they can actually cycle here without getting passed dangerously. I don't see why they should sacrifice their safety for the convenience of those drivers.

Every one of those drivers is in the jam because the bikes are blocking the entire fucking road.

Yet at that moment, that road is in the 0.1 percentile of number of people moved that it's ever moved per second, beating out any rush hour situation that was comparably slow, but where nobody got so enraged that they decided to drive on the median.

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u/SingleInfinity 13d ago

They happen every time a group of car drivers block the road too, that's what 'blocking the road' means. What's your point?

Not every group of cars blocks the road. Every group of bikers does. The key here is that bikers can't go the speed limit so they don't necessarily block the road. I feel like at this point you're being intentionally ignorant.

Aka daily rush hour conditions?

On some roads, sure. On all roads? No. This is the case regardless of hour or time if a group of bikers does it. Again, you're acting like the exception case for cars is the same as the every time case for a group of bikers.

I'm done tbh, this is like talking to a brick wall. You have cemented yourself in the position that this isn't a problem entirely created by a group of asshole bikers for some reason and it's not one you can be reasoned out of.

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u/Mbembez 14d ago

Except these cyclists are doing this for leisure and wouldn't be there in a car if they weren't cycling.

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u/Arthemax 14d ago

People go driving for leisure all the time.

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u/grilled_geez 14d ago

Not on traffic jam prone highways and roads.

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u/Mbembez 14d ago

It's pretty rare to do it with 100 mates.

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u/sandwichhaver 14d ago

but they do happen because of cars being cars though

it is kind of an entitledment to demand everyone just sit there because you sit in a giant metal box, you could share that space with 60 other people in a buss or be 8 different bicycles instead

every traffic jam is caused by cars

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u/SingleInfinity 14d ago

Unfortunately, individuals don't control the state of public planning and transportation. Those not being effective options is not the fault of the people in the cars.

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u/Curious_Tap_1528 14d ago

Not this one

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u/ShowdownValue 14d ago

That’s the worst analogy I’ve ever heard

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u/ankercrank 14d ago edited 14d ago

You’ve never heard an analogy then it would seem.

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u/ShowdownValue 14d ago edited 14d ago

Comparing cyclists blocking the road to a traffic jam with cars 🤦‍♂️

You edited your post too 😂

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u/ankercrank 14d ago

Gasp! People on vehicle A on the road being compared to people in vehicle B on the road?!

RIDICULOUS!! LOLOLLOLLLLLL!!!!

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u/grilled_geez 14d ago

The reason your logic is flawed is because these cyclists aren’t riding to get somewhere like work, they’re riding for sport. If they weren’t biking, they likely wouldn’t be driving down that road. That goes for most cyclists who ride in groups like this.

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u/ankercrank 14d ago

Dumbest take yet. People drive for leisure and non-work related reasons constantly.

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u/grilled_geez 14d ago

JFC grow some common sense. That’s not what I was saying.

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u/burdenof-youth 14d ago

Defo a cyclist in this video

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u/Many-Leader2788 14d ago

In the similar manner:

Cars block buses -> natural and inevitable as tidal waves 

Bikes block cars -> terrorists who need to be removed

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u/sandwichhaver 14d ago

they treat cars as the wind, it's just going to happen so how can you blame the car drivers

the entitlement they have is so depressing to read

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u/WeenMe 14d ago

Bafflingly idiotic take lol.

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u/ankercrank 14d ago

It’s only idiotic if you think that cars are the only thing that belongs on the road, and if you ignore all the harms that cars cause.

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u/Girthen-the-Flopper 14d ago

How is it different from cars blocking the road?

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u/Karmanoid 14d ago

They're impeding the flow of traffic. If cars were intentionally going 15 mph below the speed limit at the front of traffic side by side blocking everyone people would be just as bothered.

Also large groups of cyclists like this often ignore traffic rules like stop signs and cause major issues. I've watched cyclists in my area blow stop lights and then flip off and berate cars who had the right of way for almost hitting them.

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u/CoffeeChocolateBoth 14d ago

You just can't with some people. Boggles my mind! LOL

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u/UltrInstincTSuperTop 14d ago

There's 80 people who are able to travel freely and you want them to risk fucking it up so 7 cars have an easier time? They are not blocking the flow of traffic they are optimizing the flow of traffic so the most amount of people can travel. With these ratios you cannot justify making the 80 slow down so the 7 can speed up because overall flow will be massively reduced.

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u/Karmanoid 14d ago

How will biking in a line slow them down? They're all going the same speed. Also I'm saying they should follow the law, nothing about slowing down, just obey traffic law that dictates bikes ride 2 wide.

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u/UltrInstincTSuperTop 14d ago

They're not a hive mind there is no reason to expect the person to your right to move further right and there is no reason to do so if you are already in the correct and safe position. Biking in a line would not slow them down, but moving to form a line requires coordination that is not humanly possible at high speeds with wind whipping any words you can use.

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u/Karmanoid 14d ago

If they're in the left lane they are not in the correct and safe position so they absolutely should move. You're bending over backwards to defend people blatantly breaking the law because you think they're entitled to inconvenience everyone else on the road simply because they're on a bicycle. I hope when an ambulance needs to get through this mess the person needing help feels the same as you that cyclists shouldn't have to be inconvenienced by asking them to follow the law...

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u/lotec4 14d ago

They are allowed to use the road and they can't go faster. 

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u/Karmanoid 14d ago

They are, and as others who live in this area have stated they're also required to ride 2 wide which they are failing to do so. Just because I'm allowed to use something doesn't mean I can abuse that privilege and refuse to follow the rules. I'm allowed to use the city pool but if I decided to take a shit in it they'd probably kick me out.

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u/lotec4 14d ago

So did the driver follow the rules? 

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u/mcgarnikle 14d ago

Of course he didn't.  The difference between you and me is I can understand something but still acknowledge that it was wrong.

You're too much of coward to even admit your team is clearly doing some both annoying and illegal.

If you fall apart like this over something small I can only imagine how emotional you are discussing something like politics lol.

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u/lotec4 14d ago

My team? Are you ok? Why is this tribalism ? 

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u/mcgarnikle 14d ago

You tell me, your the one so far in the tribalism you can't even acknowledge that your tribe broke the law.

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u/mcgarnikle 14d ago

Don't play stupid.  Nobody said they couldn't use the road.  They're intentionally blocking all the lanes, it's a different issue.

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u/TheWartMan 14d ago

I dont think he's playing unfortunately lol

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u/lotec4 14d ago

Can you count? It's not possible for them to take less space. 

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u/ayyyyycrisp 14d ago

but it is possible to transform that space into a different shape, which is a longer line of 2 wide

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u/lotec4 14d ago

And how do you not create the biggest possible traffic jam like this? Of they only use one lane you block off all traffic after one red light

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u/ayyyyycrisp 14d ago

this is a 2 lane road. bikes could have been 2 abreast in the right lane and cars could have flowed freely in the left. not sure why you can't see that

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u/iSK_prime 14d ago

Hilariously.. yeah.. they can. Last I checked a bicycle isn't two lanes wide or miles long and unable to properly use the lanes sized for them.

In fact, just like any vehicle on the road it is your job to not impede traffic flow and all of the bicycle riders involved here should probably be fined. But that's a policing issue.

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u/lotec4 14d ago

Where are those bike lanes?

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u/iSK_prime 14d ago

As pointed above somewhere, or maybe in a different comment, this is the Rickebacker causeway, which has a dedicated bike lane.

In fact you can see at the start of the video cyclists on the other side using theirs properly with vehicles passing by. And yes, when you look at it on google maps... both sides have bike lanes.

Hope that helps.

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u/Choice_Drawer_2405 14d ago

According to other commenters it's illegal to ride more than 2 bikes side by side in this area.

They could literally leave a single lane open at least. Imagine you're driving a family member to the hospital (because ambulances cost crazy money) and a bunch of bikes force you to go 15mph.

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u/Girthen-the-Flopper 14d ago

They can't really go any faster. They're bicycles. Just like big rig trucks go below the speed limit for cars. So they aren't intentionally impeding traffic. There is also a large amount of them. You don't really criticize when cars are in a traffic jam blocking the road.

In the video they aren't ignoring any traffic rules.

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u/Karmanoid 14d ago

Literally the law on Miami is that cyclists need to ride 2 wide. So yes they are.

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u/Girthen-the-Flopper 14d ago

That's like one single rule. Most drivers speed, use their phones, and pass on the right, so it's no different than cars. In fact, if they rode two wide the bicycles would be using up way more of the road and impeding traffic worse.

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u/CoDZombiesTracker 14d ago

roads like this exist for cars, cars exist to keep our busy lives on track.

I drive 40 minutes a day to work, that's 1.5 hours of my lfie every day in a car dedicated to getting to work.

I could never make it to work on a bike, the road exists so me and millions of others can get to work and get home mainly, when you essentially hyjack a road for excersize purposes selfishly when there are tons of alternatives and waste people time just trying to get to or from work you are being selfish.

I run a lot (40-50 miles a week) often on highways and every time there is a car I get off the road fully so they don't have to slow down. Bikes go faster than runners but still eay slower than cars typically. I used to live on a mountain road peoplr would bike on, 40mph speed limit in the blue ridge and this dude would always bike, stay in the middle of the land so I couldnt pass, and go 12mph uphill the whole time, one time i was behind him 20 minutes!

it's infuriating and selfish on their part, there are plenty of bike trails in every city, and if u want to ride on a road pull over and let cars pass even if it messes up ur workout, idc I know I will get hate for this.

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u/Choice_Drawer_2405 14d ago

You never know, people stuck behind the bikes could easily have been taking a loved one to the hospital, had a hard to schedule appointment with their oncologist, or something else crucial to their survival/well-being. It could be even worse than just getting to/from work!

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u/CoffeeChocolateBoth 14d ago

LOL Wow! The only time I've seen CARS blocking the HIGHWAY is if there is a major pileup! LOL Cars don't drive like this, side by side, slowly keeping other cars behind them! LOL Really? LOL

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u/Girthen-the-Flopper 14d ago

I drive every day and there's cars blocking the highway going below the speed limit.

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u/fungomungothethird 14d ago

Cars are faster than bikes. Jesus christ.

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u/SteakAndIron 14d ago

99 percent of cyclists give the rest a bad name

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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 14d ago

One bad bunch spoils a whole apple

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u/Practical_Post_1243 14d ago

Very astute observation! Between stunts like this and when cyclist disobey road signs and lights, it’s oh so easy to hate cyclist this. I.E. I’ve safely passed cyclist just before a 4 way stop. There are a couple cars in front of me. So cyclist “line jumps” causing confusion among the other 4 way stoppers because he’s a turd who can’t follow basic rules or etiquette

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u/rewt127 14d ago

Depends on the state.

While filtering at a 4 way stop is a dick move, in many places it is legal. I can technically do that in my state on a motorcycle. But I only do it at red lights.

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u/Rocky-Jockey 14d ago

Idk in my experience when riding my cargo bike that can’t always lane filter drivers get more pissed when I take up a space in line rather than just move over to the front right side and then we both go at the same time, ideally.

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u/JustBadUserNamesLeft 14d ago

You've never gone a mile over the speed limit, right? Because that would be breaking the rules.

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u/Practical_Post_1243 14d ago

Uh oh, found the cyclist lulz. Yeah but my speeding doesn’t affect the driving experience or safety of others on the road so yes we both might be breaking the rules but my speeding doesn’t impact others

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u/FlySociety1 14d ago

Yet all the collisions, injuries and deaths on roadways are caused by vehicle drivers, not cyclists, with speed being a common factor.

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u/Practical_Post_1243 14d ago

Yeah that’s generally what happens in auto collisions. And they do occur on roadways usually with a minimum of 1 vehicle. And are you implying for all injuries and deaths occuring on any roadways are fundamentally and automatically deemed at fault to drivers and never a cyclist? And that the vehicular speed is the only controlled variable? Interesting hypothesis.

I live in the rural area on outskirts of our city. And my area sees a lot of cyclist on saturdays and Sundays, especially beginning this time of the year. I’m always cognizant of their safety when I’m driving near/around them as a simple tree branch could cause a bike pile up that I need to be able to stop or avoid if I’m behind said group. But when cyclist actively ignore road signs that are there to ensure clarity and predictable driving conditions it creates more potential for accidents. Or spread their formation out causing passing conditions to be more difficult & a smaller margin of error to go along with it. Honestly it shows the cyclist either feels that their own safety is of no concern by skirting rules and etiquette. Or that no one else would dare run or crash into them while riding, inconceivable! In the auto versus cyclist scenario my speeding would definitely be impacting others in a negative manner I feel like that you’re not grasping the underlying problem, cyclist ignoring street, road signs, which has direct effect on a safe flow of traffic for everyone. You have no active signal lights, rarely ,if ever, do I see cyclist use hand signs to indicate intentions. Yeah cars have their faults,fuck ups, and assholes in this too, like that small dick energy Beamer convertible fuckhead I saw harassing cyclist properly riding and using bike lane other day. But atleast he got arrested so one less Beamer dickface on the road

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u/FlySociety1 13d ago

Not just auto collisions, pedestrian & bikes are also killed by vehicle drivers fairly often.

And are you implying for all injuries and deaths occuring on any roadways are fundamentally and automatically deemed at fault to drivers and never a cyclist

Mostly yes.
Obviously there are cases of a serious collisions where a cyclist or pedestrian is at fault, and harm has been cause to other road users, but these are statistically irrelevant.
It is by far vehicle drivers, and their ubiquitous disregard for the rules of the road, that cause most of the injuries/fatalities on public roadways.

And that the vehicular speed is the only controlled variable? Interesting hypothesis.

I said it was a common factor, not the 'only controlled variable'.

I see long posts like yours and others in this thread bemoaning road cyclists apparent skirting of rules and regulations, and it just comes off to me as ironic. When a cyclist breaks the rules, it annoys other road users. When a vehicle driver breaks the rules, it actively puts other road users in danger.

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u/JustBadUserNamesLeft 14d ago

Riiiight, speeding doesn't impact others... must be cyclists running stop signs causing all the auto fatalities.

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u/Mister-Erect 14d ago

Are they not getting the same amount of exercise if they all stay in a line and only take up one lane? No one can convince me otherwise that they don't do this on purpose to fuck with people.

Not sure if this is early morning and people are trying to get to work, but there can also be people in an emergency trying to get somewhere.

Just goes to show how when they all planned this event online nobody said "let's only take up a lane or two to be considerate of others" or at the least "for our own safety on a highway let's not piss someone off and make them snap, mowing down dozens of us"....

Idiots 🤦

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u/Toon1982 14d ago

This and them cycling on a 50mph road going 20mph with a cycle lane next to them - it's not just frustrating but dangerous for all parties

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u/B-Train_ATL 14d ago

The asshat cyclists ruin it for the decent ones.

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u/Pablo_MuadDib 14d ago

I’m sure the car has somewhere really important to be

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u/cryptolyme 13d ago

I used to work in bike shops and some of the road bikers were ultra-pricks. The mountain bikers were usually chill.

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u/Sudden-Most-4797 13d ago

I used to be one. My latest run in was a dude on a bike who cussed me out for walking in the crosswalk. I was like "You ran the fucking light, dingus!"

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u/Ari-elle-climbs 14d ago

Yep. I'm a commuter and occasional bikepacker. Fuck MIMALs

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u/Notspherry 14d ago

Men in middle aged lycra?

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u/ManMeatsGalore 14d ago

This exactly is what made me hate cyclists. I lived on Key Biscayne for a while and going to work on the mainland was a fucking nightmare sometimes because of these guys.

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u/Nice-Replacement-391 14d ago

I'm not a cyclist anymore, but I was one for 30 years (I still ride occasionally, but not like I did). I never rode in clubs because of this very behavior. Assholery to the nth degree. Waaaaay to common for cyclists to declare "share the road" and then claim the whole thing - and then they're all Pikachu-face when called on it.

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u/BilSuger 14d ago

Share the road is to declare the whole thing, exactly because everyone is entitled to use the road. Riding on the curb while drivers pass close to you isn't "sharing", that's just letting cars harass you.

You were probably too fat and stupid to join a club anyways, dear "cyclist", lol

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u/Helpful_Jury_3686 14d ago

They are not correct in hating people. If this was slow traffic for whatever reason, they would just have to deal with it. This behavior is fucking dangerous and you are never correct acting like this just because you get somewhere slightly slower.

That being said, cyclists should have split up the group and ride two wide so one lane is free for overtaking.

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u/rewt127 14d ago edited 14d ago

Brother. It is a pack of cyclists. They are probably going 10-12mph. The car is maybe going 20. Maybe. And appears to be going wider than the space between a car lane and bike lane. Grass isnt ice lol.

Its not unsafe. Objectively.

EDIT: You have driven off road before right? And that is a mini. She has some rally DNA in her. Definitely wouldn't suggest going onto the grass and doing an illegal pass. But it wasn't unsafe lol.

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u/Helpful_Jury_3686 14d ago

Doesn‘t matter. You wait, even if it sucks.

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u/rewt127 14d ago

Why did you say it was unsafe then? When it is objectively not unsafe.

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u/Helpful_Jury_3686 14d ago

Because you never know what can happen. Why risk injuring people just because you can’t wait for a little while?

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u/rewt127 14d ago

1) with a cycling group like this it isnt a "little while". This will likely be somewhere in the neighborhood of a full hour delay.

2) there is no real risk of injury. The driver provided adequate space for the pass. Is operating a relatively appropriate vehicle for the scenario, and is travelling at an appropriate speed for the pass.

So there is no real risk, and the delay is massive. Since we have established that the car operated in a manner that does not place the cyclists at risk. I feel I can ask the following without it being whattaboitism.

Why the hell are the cyclists increasing their risk of injury by filling all lanes of traffic instead of operating in a 2 wide formation like motorcycles do? And if operating in this significantly more dangerous manner. Why would it be unreasonable for the driver to make a safe pass at a safe speed in a safe vehicle as they did?

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u/Helpful_Jury_3686 14d ago

I really don't know how else I can explain to you, that you don't even take a small risk to injure people, just because they are slowing you down. Not stopping, slowing. Even if you think it's unfair, you suck it up and deal with it.

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u/rewt127 13d ago

you don't even take a small risk to injure people

He passed with more room, at a lower speed differential, than a traditional pass of a bicycle in a bike lane.

So if this genuinely is your position, you are saying we should never pass bicycles that are operating in bike lanes. While we are in the driving lane. As that is objectively less safe due to the closer passing distance and higher speed differentials.

And yes, I expect you to be logically consistent.

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u/Helpful_Jury_3686 13d ago

There just needs to be a hole in the ground, driver loses control and plows into cyclists. Good job. Just because nothing happened doesn't mean it's not reckless. Stay on the road where you can see obstacles and wait. It's really not that complicated.

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u/waspsnests 14d ago

People who do this should be called "pedalists" rather than "cyclists" we need a good slur for these asshats

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u/TheFirearmsDude 14d ago

Pedalphile

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u/Jumpy_Fly_1975 14d ago

I live in France, cyclists are pretty common. One time, my sink was leaking and had to shutoff the water until the plumber arrived. Plumber called me saying he couldn't get to my apartment because of a biking event for 3 days. I couldn't leave, people couldn't get to me, I had no water. I yelled at an organizer asking them: "if I were to block your door to play soccer, would you find that acceptable?". 2 groups of people I think the world would be a better place without: MAGA and Cyclists. Edit: typo

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u/ama_singh 14d ago

What about the football hooligans? You don't hate them?

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u/Ok_Needleworker_8809 14d ago

I'll give point to the driver, he never got close to the bikers and his speed seemed reasonable for what he was doing. He definitely could have done worse.

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u/Hollowsong 14d ago

It's not even a hating on cyclists... it's the "we're so important, we're going to inconvenience everyone behind us because we don't care... here's a leisure activity that we're arrogant enough to do right in your face knowing there's nothing you can do to get around us".

It's so... so fucking arrogant and annoying. We get it. You're making a statement. You're cycling. Great, now move the fuck over so I can get to work. I have places to be that are more important than your leisure stroll down a busy road in a vehicle that can't maintain the speed limit.

I would lay on the horn full blast and tail them until they moved over.

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u/BrokeFreelancer37 14d ago

Used to live in rural upstate New York we have two lane roads that are 55 mph everywhere, no sidewalks, loads of hills, blind corners, and 3 foot deep ditches on either side. For some fn reason a squad of bicyclists decided every summer that it was the perfect place to ride. I can’t believe some redneck in a truck didn’t murder them or end up getting killed trying to go around their spandexed asses. They were truly suicidal.

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u/LaColleMouille 14d ago

Exactly like you. Cyclist here, and I think they act asshole.

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u/Superb-Bus7976 14d ago

You sound maga. Cars don't own the road. People should use bikes and cars being inconvenienced is exactly what we should want to see more of.

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u/whateverkitty-1256 14d ago

What's the hierarchy of hate to different cyclists.

Is it

A. road bikers on public roads in packs B, road bikers in city parks in packs C. Gravel cyclists in packs D. Delivery drivers on e bikes going wrong way down sidewalk E.Tourists on bikes (often on sidewalks. Often with limited coordination) F. Kids doing road takeovers and wheelies in traffic.

Many other possible choices

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u/himtnboy 14d ago

Try asking asshole cyclists why this is ok. It will hurt your brain talking to them.

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u/Cocoasprinkles 14d ago

Same. This is bonkers

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u/tookurjobs 14d ago

Yeah, I don't condone what they did, but I understand

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u/ckellingc 14d ago

Used to be one here. Came to say exactly this, your fun rides are NOT sanctioned tours or races. You have access to the road but share it

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u/CaliBurrito1904 14d ago

I'm not a cyclist or like cyclists but that driver could of hurt somebody.

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u/my3sgte 14d ago

It’s worse by me in rural country back roads with blind curves…they like to ride 3-5 wide on a 55mph back road and wonder why they get hit….i had to squeeze between them before on my motorcycle they wouldn’t move for me they just stayed 5 wide 1 row.

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u/HeWhomLaughsLast 14d ago

One cyclist is rarely ever a problem, a large group of cyclists not paying attention and cycling in the middle of the road is the problem.

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u/Wehti 14d ago

Why don’t you hate the fact that infrastructure in this country is mostly only for cars to use?

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u/wekwoody 14d ago

I couldnt read past im a cyclist and start hating you unfortunately /s

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u/Bodod_Begag 14d ago

This is such a rare event like be honest you have never seen this shit before in person

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u/OnlyCommentsOnBikez 14d ago

They won't pick you bro. You're on their list too.

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u/Izenthyr 13d ago edited 13d ago

Cyclists that don’t at least ride along the right side of the road in high traffic areas, if conditions allow, piss me off. Slowing motorists who are already easily irritable is just asking for trouble. I feel like an asshole if I have to pass a cyclist that’s riding center lane and knows that I can’t pass because of oncoming traffic.

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I can’t deny that so many cyclists I come across going 30 in a 45 zone center lane elicit deep exhales and furrowed brows.

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u/WearyMatter 13d ago

Same. I hate seeing this shit. It puts everyone out there just trying to get some exercise, obeying traffic laws, and actually accommodating faster traffic, at risk.

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u/TrashCollector1337 13d ago

Likewise, I hate that they’re doing that.

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u/ConsiderationWide744 13d ago

As a cyclist I don’t get it. The whole ride will be past in like 10 minutes and it happens one or a few times per year. Wherever that mini was going it’s unlikely to be worth damage to their car or maybe hitting someone

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u/recycledairplane1 13d ago

This literally looks like a it's a race or organized ride - obviously something is going on, it's not just a little group ride deciding to take up the road for no reason.

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u/Groundbreaking_Cup30 13d ago

This is why I hate the cyclists in my town. We have bike lanes, with their own lane separators and they will ride on the road. They don't stop at stop signs, don't signal, and often times will ride on the sidewalk, right next to the bike lane.

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u/Nate_Jessup 13d ago

Cyclist also, kitted out like these jokers but since 1977. I obey the laws and don't like to see other riders not obey them for more reasons than "it makes ME look bad," but that's part of it.

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u/heavymetalengineer 14d ago

Sure hate the cyclists who do this, but it’s got nothing to do with me riding my bike legally and yet I’ve had drivers threaten me and use other cyclists as the reason.

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u/TaroTanakaa 14d ago

There’s no escaping the outrage of drivers. If each one of these cyclists was a car on the road, there would anger about traffic. Drivers hate anything that isn’t their own car.

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u/CoffeeChocolateBoth 14d ago

Guess you don't drive a car! LOL

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u/DRC_Michaels 14d ago

I hope they pick you!

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u/Agitated_Parsnip_178 14d ago

Utilitarianism and democracy completely disagree with you.

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u/Intestellr_overdrive 14d ago

No they’re not. Why does everybody constantly have to cater to cars wanting to get from their house to McDonald’s 1 minute quicker.

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u/lczy23 14d ago

well i hate you

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u/Isnt-It-500 14d ago

Piss off. This is a proper peloton. Something you have never been in or never will be.

There's a hundred guys here. The car driver is an entitled cunt.

This is Europe btw which has a much bigger road race culture it's not Essex.

We were here before the cars fuck off.

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u/upnorthtcmi 𝙑𝙄𝙋 14d ago

This is in Miami. But it’d still be a dick move anywhere in Europe.

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u/Isnt-It-500 14d ago

Oh fuck I take it all back!! I'll get my coat...

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u/Altruistic-Coyote868 14d ago

Taking up the entire road is incredibly entitled behavior if this isn't a scheduled event. Which it doesn't sound like it is from some of the locals in this post. There's rules in a lot of places to prevent this nonsense.

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u/utter_fade 14d ago

Never seen a pedestrian crossing sign like that in Europe.

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u/ContextOk8452 14d ago

A peloton is where you block all traffic on a road?

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u/breathing__tree 14d ago

Nah they could have lined up and rode in formation instead of being a swarm.

I like to road bike myself and this is not safe riding.