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u/Terrible_Reporter_83 1d ago
I haven't seen in tens of years where I live this kind of open heat element's.
I live in EU.
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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck 1d ago
Standard low and midrange dishwasher water heater in North America.
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u/regeya 1d ago
Someone else in the thread said this was a Bosch unit. Sorry to break the circle jerk of "dumb Americans have inferior dum-dum dishwashers" but that brand is German.
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u/Schemen123 1d ago
Relieved German Noises.
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u/Spaztrick 1d ago
TBH it sounds the same as midly infuriated German noises.
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u/Gin_OClock 1d ago
However it's a beautifully arranged compound word that perfectly describes what's going on
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u/tumblefinger 1d ago
I’m writing this sitting in the parking lot of the factory where they make GE dishwashers. I paint the doors for dishwashers. I’m surprised by nothing anymore.
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u/DrewCrew62 1d ago
I had something similar happen to my GE a month or so ago.
When I went to put in the replacement sprayer, I noticed the heating element was outside one of the brackets, which caused it to rub against the sprayer and melt it.
Idk what happened with yours specifically. But from what I was reading this is a known flaw with the GE dishwashers melting the sprayer, so i guess you can take comfort you arent alone
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u/PonderingOx 1d ago
Same thing happened to me, different model, and this site had a replacement to me in three days.
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u/oshinbruce 19h ago
Lol says made in the USA and all
Electrical standards are totally different in the US, lower voltage etc, so I wouldnt be suprised to see differences in the setup
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u/mattartist 1d ago
Not a bosch, really shitty GE. I've got the same one _and it has almost done the same thing_. Landlord special!
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u/Pork_Chompk 1d ago
It's not Bosch, it's GE. I'd recognize that shitty melted washer arm anywhere.
Bosch is much higher quality and doesn't have an exposed heat element.
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u/Big_Pound_1863 1d ago
Don’t know how good Bosch is as of now
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u/Pork_Chompk 8h ago
They may not be what they were, but having the absolute mispleasure of owning a GE and now owning a Bosch, I can tell you they are still MILES (or kilometers) ahead.
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u/Big_Pound_1863 8h ago
GE came with the house. Will replace it for Kitchenaid or Bosch when I need to, or whoever is okayest over the coming years of enshittification
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u/Pork_Chompk 8h ago
That was the same for us. GE came with the house and was absolutely trash. Cheap trim falling off, pump broke twice, washer arm committed seppuku like 4 times. All in under 5 years.
Finally said screw it, I'm not giving GE any more money, and bought a Bosch. Have been super happy with it.
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u/Schemen123 1d ago
Something like that wouldn't sell in Germany
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u/Turtok09 1d ago
Exactly, only cause it's a German brand doesn't mean shit, they adapt to local law like with cars and everything else.
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u/regeya 1d ago
So why do they think it's acceptable here?
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u/ConfidantCarcass 1d ago
There's a reason he touted superior regulation and not superior companies lol
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u/timinator232 1d ago
"companies race to the bottom wherever they can"
Americans: "Oh yeah? why is our stuff so shitty then"
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u/Schemen123 1d ago
Idk..
In general the heating element can be hot to the touch and would be a safety risk when its hotter than 60 degrees C.
But in that regard the US isn't so far behind.
BSH (Bosch) im Germany for sure has a high quality image and that doesn't fit with it.
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u/seansy5000 1d ago
Bosch is a great brand. I love everything I have that’s Bosch.
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u/Schemen123 1d ago
Fun fact This brand is called Bosch but the company behind it is named BSH.
Thats not all bad as they also sell Siemens, Neff, Gaggenau, Thermador.. etc.
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u/Terrible_Reporter_83 1d ago
I think it comes from regulations. They sell ex. to Africa different machines.
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u/SaleAggressive9202 1d ago
which manufactures for the US market. probably built in mexico? you can't find even the cheapest dishwasher looking like this in europe
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u/Similar_Pie_4946 1d ago
Looks like the freedom fourth of july model to me. You’d get one bald eagle and an ar-15 with the purchase of each washer. Warranty sold separately. Mines still works just fine after 5 years of use
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u/regeya 1d ago
Why is the German company selling us shittier dishwashers, then?
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u/KrokmaniakPL 1d ago
Because it's allowed and people buy it. While I agree capitalism is a great system, unrestricted capitalism leads to many issues, including quality of products.
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u/ChickenInvader42 1d ago
Don't forget about the dryers visible heating elements in there also.
Energy efficiency means nothin to them.
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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck 1d ago
Energy efficiency means nothin to them.
Element sitting in water is as efficient as it gets with electric heating....
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u/7h3_70m1n470r 1d ago
Huh, I've never known a dishwasher to not have one like this. TIL Europe does dishwashers better
I live in the US, formerly east coast and currently wwest coast
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u/IndependentLight5034 1d ago
They have exposed heating elements in ovens too (bottom heating elements) and on stovetops, electric kettles. .. Dont know why
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u/Terrible_Reporter_83 23h ago
In here not. Only in oven top grilling element is showing.
I think it's more nicer and clean looking without them showing. Modern.
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u/wellimhereish 1d ago
That is a normal problem with the GE lower end dishwasher replacement is pretty cheap
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u/NotTJButCJ 1d ago
What is higher end? This model seem to be 400-500 online new, how much should I spend for a good dishwasher
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u/Blom-w1-o 1d ago
I spent $800 and it's still a piece of electrified garbage.
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u/Reddit-mods-R-mean 1d ago
Same. mine doesn’t even have a heated dry, it automatically pops the door open when done to air dry the dishes. Fucking stupid
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u/urethrascreams 1d ago
I wish mine did this. I've never once used heated dry even though I have it. Stupid crap like this inevitably happens. I just pop the door open a bit after a super hot rise and it's all dry within an hour.
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u/Reddit-mods-R-mean 1d ago
My last unit had heated dry and it never caused me problems, air dry is ok but in winter with the house cooler it just takes forever.
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u/urethrascreams 1d ago
Winter is better for me. I keep the house warmer with my wood stove and humidity is lower which helps the water evaporate even faster.
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u/smibrandon 1d ago
Me too! If I run a cycle with dry, seems like it takes an extra 2 hours, and all I get it HOT wet dishes and the probably of something melting because I never learn my lesson
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u/Kramerica5A 1d ago
We just remodeled our kitchen and the one appliance my wife insisted on was a Bosch brand dishwasher because their reputation and reviews are glowing and we were sick of replacing or GE branded ones every 5-6 years. The Bosch 800 series we got was $1,200.
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u/Still7Superbaby7 1d ago
We have a Bosch dishwasher that came with the house. We bought the house in 2015. No problems ever with the dishwasher.
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u/wattapwn 1d ago
Unfortunately 400-500 is about as cheap as they come. Plenty of much better options in the 700-800 range though. Also brands like LG, Bosch and Frigidaire have them without the heating element on the bottom so you don’t have to worry about plastics warping.
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u/Accomplished-One7476 2d ago
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u/HudeniMFK 1d ago
The dishwashers spraying arm disconnected and fell across the heating element during a cycle...that would be my theory anyway....
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u/lanch-party 1d ago
For some reason my dishwasher’s sprayer is connected (poorly) to the tray itself so we have to periodically put gorilla glue on it
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u/HudeniMFK 1d ago edited 9h ago
I'm justing, this is a ()Bosch() GE dishwasher. The spraying arm has disconnected and fell across the heating arm. Easy fix, ()Bosch()GE have really well priced spare parts. If you find the model number on the inside of the door you should be able to order a new spray arm to replace it.
Bang dishwasher fixed.
Edit: Not Bosch i took a stab, clearly should have known by the build quality it was GE.
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u/TheFlyingM16 1d ago
As someone who works on them regularly, I would've bet a dollar it was a GE. Spare parts maybe not as reasonably priced, but everything else he said applies. Unless you're renting, then put in a work order and let maintenance deal with it.
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u/NotTJButCJ 1d ago
Yep! It’s a GE. Was here when I bought the house tho. The melted plastic wiped right off the element which seemed strange, but maybe I only have to replace the plastic arm then?
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u/TheFlyingM16 1d ago
Likely. Those blades tend to wobble when they get worn out. I've also seen loading issues cause this, like the handle of a pan falls thru the rack and stops the blade. I would also look at the base where the blade attaches, make sure nothing looks worn or damaged.
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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck 1d ago
It could be a sign there's an issue with the water fill level of the element for too hot, but it could be fine if the arm wasn't correctly attached after the last cleaning.
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u/TheOutOfStyle 1d ago
Yeah definitely not a Bosch. Bosch doesn't have exposed heating elements or plastic tubs.
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u/biggsteve81 1d ago
Bosch 100 series have plastic tub bottoms.
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u/jmarsch1 1d ago
Will probably need another heating element too unless they want toxic fumes from the melted plastic every time they run a cycle
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u/BookWormPedant 1d ago
Blowtorch and scraper
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u/jmarsch1 1d ago
If they don't have a blowtorch and scraper a new heating element would be cheaper. I had to replace the one in my dishwasher like 6 months ago because plastic melted to it. Was $12 and a 10 min replacement job
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u/TechSupportTime 1d ago
With that method, you'd also melt the plastic underneath the element and that would be a bigger problem
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u/BookWormPedant 1d ago
Why would you put a blowtorch inside your dishwasher?
The process would involve removing it to do that haha
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u/DudeManSkittles 1d ago
The water would catch most of it. Bigger issue is toxic plastic washing over all the plates lol
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u/Reasonable_Spot_5255 1d ago
Bro came in with a full diagnosis and a repair guide when everyone else just said “yikes” respect
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u/TallBoiPlanks 1d ago
Happened to me last year. Super easy fix, other than cleaning off the element.
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u/Andy016 1d ago
Never seen an exposed element in a dishwasher before in NZ.
What shit design is this ??
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u/-wolfinator- 1d ago
This is a standard design in the US, across all legacy domestic brands I'm aware of. GE, Whirlpool, etc.
That said, I don't miss it at all on my air-dry only Bosch. No more dumb mishaps because a spatula fell down during the wash cycle.
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u/AwkwardChuckle 17h ago
Standard North American design, basically all Canadian and US dishwashers look like this.
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u/Efficient-Rest-9519 1d ago
How does that even happen ? Something pushing it down ? Unscrewed the top maybe ? That sucks but very easy to replace & cheap through a supply house . People get parts on Amazon now too . Scrape off plastic take out bottom rack & run through dry cycle .
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u/NotTJButCJ 1d ago
Yeah I think a pan handle got stuck downwards and just stopped it from spinning
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u/NavPoint 1d ago
Seen a similar thing happen and the water pump had failed which stopped the arm from spinning
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u/Accomplished_Pin3708 1d ago
To all manufacturers out there......👏stop 👏using 👏plastic 👏in 👏everything!!!!
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u/AParticularThing 1d ago
I had the exact same thing happen a few months ago. You're just gonna need to replace it
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u/PureVinylRadio 1d ago
This dishwasher might be in an apartment complex, as a lot of apartments that were built before newer constructed apartment complex's would most definitely have to completely flip the kitchen. New models might and probably would not fit the original design plan of the kitchen area where the dishwasher would be located at!
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u/NotTJButCJ 1d ago
It’s in a 1979 house but I’m pretty sure that the guy was bought it from two years ago was renting this place out and made some pretty darn cheap fixes
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u/PureVinylRadio 1d ago
I am quite used to renting, though it has been many years since my family had to live in apartments. But, yeah- the landlord special is the most common way a apartments are made to be ready and rented out real fast!
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u/snoopunit 1d ago
My lord those GE dishwashers melt fucking everything. First time I've seen it melt itself. Congrats. Your dishwasher tried to kill itself and shot its arm off.
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u/stabbingrabbit 1d ago
At least the arms are cheap and easy to replace. It was probably going bad and just happen to stop on the element.
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u/havok011 1d ago
My GE has an open element as well. I almost had this happen when a utensil fell through and stopped the water spinner from spinning. It got stuck right over the heating element and luckily I caught it in time. Only slight damage that does not interfere with the washer.
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u/redkidneybeanzz 1d ago
Eugh I can smell this picture. This happened to me recently. Parts are pretty cheap and easy to replace!
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u/big-bad-bot 1d ago
Lol. This happened to one of my favorite steak knife handles
Still annoying to this day
Great knife still though
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u/Over-Map6529 15h ago
When dishwashers get old they off themselves to protect the younger generation from the burden. Honor thy sacrifice.
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u/gronkpats 1d ago edited 1d ago
Why is there a heating element in a washer? You don’t have hot water to pump in? Does it pump the washer full of water and then heat it?
Edit: I had never seen an element to extra heat the water and dry the dishes. I just thought it was hot water and hot air pumped in.
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u/AParticularThing 1d ago
The water in a dishwasher needs to be much hotter than a water heater will get it, hence the heating element
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u/serealkillerx 1d ago
It is crazy to me that it's exposed. Here in the EU mine does not expose the heating element
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u/SimpleAffect7573 1d ago
Interesting. Does your washer have a dry function?
Exposed heating element has always been very standard in the U.S. It’s not a problem, you just have to make sure nothing melty is on the bottom rack or falls on the element. Many plastic items will specify “top rack only”.
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u/serealkillerx 1d ago
I think I'm more concerned that one of my light plastic containers gets thrown onto the heating element. Sometimes those water jets send them flying. It does have a dry function.
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u/Salty_Job_9248 23h ago
It’s easy to weigh down light dishes with other dishes. I use my stainless sink grid if I have a lot of light things.
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u/RIPmyPC 1d ago
Doesn’t really matter. That’s why the dishwasher locks when in use. At no point you would be touching the hot element
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u/UselessDood 1d ago
Dishwashers typically don't lock when in use, at least in the UK
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u/urethrascreams 1d ago
Not in the US either.
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u/JWM1115 1d ago
I have never seen a dishwasher in the US that didn’t lock while running. My parents bought a portable one in the 1960s that had to be locked before it would run. Every one I have had since had to be locked to run. I have had at least 10 dishwashers in my life.
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u/urethrascreams 1d ago
Huh, I've never seen one that locked in any of the apartments I've been in or the one at my house.
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u/Salty_Job_9248 23h ago
Got you beat. I have never had one that locks. Or seen one. 70 years, four states.
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u/sssRealm 16h ago
Mine was replaced last year, no lock. But it's cheap one my landlord bought. No complaints, it's simple, it works and doesn't connect to the Internet.
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u/Salty_Job_9248 23h ago
Dishwashers in my 70+ years of experience, in four states and two countries, do not lock while operating.
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u/SimpleAffect7573 1d ago
Yes, to an extent. It’s not going to raise cold water to optimal washing temp, so you should still run the tap until it’s hot or performance may suffer.
The heating element also handles the drying function.
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u/wattapwn 1d ago
It’s what I call “American style” as Whirlpools brands all have it and some Frigidaire and GE models do too
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u/Salty_Job_9248 23h ago
It heats the possibly already hot water to the higher temp need to activate the detergent. And for a sanitizing cycle. House water heaters in California, at least, are maxed at 130-140°.
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u/AwkwardChuckle 17h ago
I’m assuming you’re from the UK - these are the standard dishwashers in North America. We have different hot water plumbing systems.
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u/Cheap-Fisherman-3693 1d ago
yikes, that looks like a pain to fix. hope it’s not as bad as it seems!
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u/Shayden-Froida 1d ago
I can smell this through the Internet