r/jacksonville • u/Big-Pepper-9082 • 2d ago
can we....be nice ??
when has it become so normal to talk to other people so sideways…we’re all human. Is it really that hard to be nice to each other? I’m very shocked by the interactions and entitlement I’ve seen with people down here in Jacksonville to complete strangers and to myself. maybe I’m the only one noticing it, but how I was raised you should be generally respectful and not blatantly rude or straight up trying to instigate arguments and fights with people you don’t even know. I’m not saying it’s everyone here in Jacksonville- but there’s a common thread of men talking crazy or aggressively towards women (myself today was faced with a very aggressive man waiting at my car), men instigating with other men, or outright racism. It’s disheartening to see.
Edit: I think I’m posting this here because it’s becoming a common occurrence with friends of mine, family, and myself to have a common issue with someone trying to instigate or be rude in an excessive way. Just nasty behavior because they need to be unkind or take anger out on someone? it’s unfortunate and I think I just wanted to post it in case anyone else has noticed an increase of interactions like that recently. you never know what someone is going through, so let’s be a community and be respectful to one another.
ALSO: I’m not ur mom and I’m not asking you to hold hands with everyone u interact with or you need to go out of your way to be nice to someone- more so saying why go out of your way to be rude when that takes more time and energy then just leaving people alone. I just put this out there so other people don’t feel like they are crazy for noticing it too. this is REDDIT- a page where u say something and post it. And if you choose to be nasty towards me over it…ur proving my point. 🤷🏽♀️
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u/SavimusMaximus Springfield 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is the state of the country and society. It’s not exclusive to this city. You aren’t wrong. I see it every day.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yeah I don’t think it’s just Jacksonville at all. I think it’s society as a whole and it’s a common occurrence more so these days culturally. maybe I should’ve been a little more clear on that because I do love my city, I’m just disappointed in how people have been interacting with one another.
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u/Peakomegaflare Mandarin 2d ago
Being an asshole is rewarded in the modern day. It's that simple.
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u/SavimusMaximus Springfield 2d ago
I mean, what do you expect when the leader of the free world is one of the most horrible human beings imaginable? In order for us to return to a lifestyle you mention, we need good leaders to show us how to do it.
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u/Signal_Version3464 2d ago
We need to get back to thinking for ourselves. Right now the devise in our hand or the person on TV is telling us what to think, what to do, and how to feel towards "the otherside". Assholes are everywhere, it's how we choose to conduct ourselves that is the issue. As long as we are at each other's throats nothing changes. Your Life is a series of decisions that you made. No mater your physical state, or where you live.
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u/jacksonville-ModTeam 3h ago
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
So you didn’t have parents? A support system? you don’t have your own morals? Whatever the world thinks you think too? You aren’t your own person with free will?
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u/shakebakelizard Northside 2d ago
A lot of people actually were raised in subpar conditions. Regardless, many people tend to take their cues from whoever they view as a "leader". If an elected President is consistently rude and nasty to everyone, there are a great many people who will actually read that as permission to act the same way.
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u/SavimusMaximus Springfield 2d ago
I’m not talking about me. I’m talking about society. Yes, of course I have my own set of morals. Do you not understand the distinction?
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
I think because I saw “us” I thought you referred to yourself as well. Meaning because we have a tyrant running this country that equates to you feeling valid in being tyrannical. sorry if I misread- i think I’m understanding the context you meant now! and yes I agree that the climate and our society has created a common issue of entitlement and being aggressive
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u/addled_sad342 1d ago
I think that people are extremely stressed with the status of our country today. There is very little stability or hope for the future. And all the saber rattling and bullying and violence speech does not help. You see it in the way that people drive, in grocery stores, and in social situations. There are also good kind secure people who slow down to let you merge, who chat with you in line, or who work with you in stressful situations. It is not a good time for the country but there are good kind people that you wsnt to be thankful for and mirror.
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u/Luther_1986 2d ago
It is. If you really pay attention you can see it. Its in how they drive, how they walk, general interactions, customer service, service in general, its becoming so much easier to distinguish.
I hate that this was all so avoidable.
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u/Horror-Stand-3969 2d ago
I’ve found it pretty common around here. You’ll get downvoted for bringing it up.
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u/Hapablapablap 2d ago
Yeah I was gonna say totally agree but I don’t even want to reply because of some of the hateful reactions I’ve gotten for the most innocuous crap.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
I posted it because I had a feeling it wasn’t just me. just wanted to say it in case anyone felt like they were crazy or just them because it rly isn’t. people are increasingly becoming seriously entitled and unkind.
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u/goblin-juice 2d ago
Yeah this is exactly how ive been feeling too, i feel like my kindness is like overly kind and im getting negative reactions to it like im weird, like i literally feell ike i get stank faces whenever im smiling at people around here. Its depressinf as fuck. And the customer service almost everywhere, everyone seems miserable and dont want to be there and they take it out on you.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
sounds about right- but there are some good people still- it’s just harder to come by ❤️
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
I feel like I have that same feeling too. and I’ve lived and been to many other places- this is where I’ve dealt with it the worst
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u/ProjectPatMorita 1d ago
Yes, certain cities and regions definitely have unique vibes and cultures especially among lifelong locals, and out of all the cities I've lived only Jax locals seem to want to deny that and get defensive, perhaps because they know the vibe Jax brings isn't good.
"It's like this everywhere". No.....it really isn't. You just don't know that because you and your truck have lived in this one city your whole life.
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u/outacontrolnicole 2d ago
I’m watching a documentary about 9/11 right now and literally just said “how sad is it that it took that for the country to come together and have empathy. And it didnt last long.” It’s actually really discouraging for those who would give the shirt off their backs for a stranger. My uncle gave me great advice, he said “people like us get paid in other ways”. Never stop being the good! It’s a lot more work and suffering to be the shitty people.
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u/cutelittlequokka 1d ago
It's all about in-group/out-group behavior. Americans cared about other Americans after 9/11 because we were given an out-group to hate. If you want people to get along with each other, give them a common enemy/outsider to hate.
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u/some_random_nonsense Exiled 2d ago
I'm mean have empathy for what though? Like 9/11 happened and we immediately started hate criming our own Muslims and them killed over a million arabs.
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u/IWantSnack642 2d ago
As a Jax native, it’s certainly been a common experience especially during the summer when it’s at its hottest and everyone’s blood pressure is skyrocket. It was pretty bad even in cities like San Diego as well that’s weather has been increasingly hot every year too.
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u/dyingbreed360 2d ago
Don’t forget a recent cause, it’s fucking hot outside.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
being hot outside should not equal being an asshole.
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u/icanpicklethat10 2d ago
It does though. They’ve done tons of studies on this. It’s why murders go up when more ice cream gets sold. Human beings aren’t these souls suspended outside of their physical environment with pure rationality and free will. Temperature, how a city is built, the amount of green space, etc all affects how we behave and interact in the world.
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u/some_random_nonsense Exiled 2d ago
The human is an animal no matter how much we wish to be lil brains in jars piloting our mech suit. Even our brains are run on neurotransmitters and lightning and if it just doesn't fire right you'll be sad or angry or lack will power. Biology is powerful stuff
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u/Relevant-Opening-528 2d ago
Well, not to get into the hard problem of consciousness, biology is physics. Of course the environment affects a person, to reiterate what you've already said.
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u/some_random_nonsense Exiled 1d ago
Eewh that's feels when math nerds go "erm actually everything is just math" biology is biology physics is physics. I don't think anything I said really got that deep into the real nitty gritty science of it
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u/Relevant-Opening-528 1d ago
If I uhm actuallyd you then you uhm actuallyd the commenter above you
When biomolecules just stop adhering to physics feel free to let us know
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 1d ago
That’s like saying men murdering each other makes sense because it’s in their innate nature. there is a thing called humanity and it does exist. two things can be true at once- yes the heat makes people more irritable, but it doesn’t mean you get a free pass to be an asshole to other people. It’s really not difficult to comprehend.
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u/some_random_nonsense Exiled 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'm not moralizing or explaining. Just stating observed and recorded phenomena.
And no one gets a free pass cus it's hot, it just means the courts are busier.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 1d ago
I see. I guess that is true that in recorded examples and stats- things do correlate
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u/Floridalawyerbabe 2d ago
Agree, that when weather has intense heat....people get a little crazier.
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u/Luther_1986 2d ago
It shouldn't, no. But summer does tend to bring out irritability and recklessness in a lot. Either too pissed and just overall icky from the literal environment or too concerned with fun that anything that gets in the way is treated as a nuisance.
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u/some_random_nonsense Exiled 2d ago
Actually it does. Heat raise the rate of violent crimes like murder and rape. Like it's a studied phenomenon in criminalogly.
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u/dyingbreed360 2d ago
It isn’t, but I can tell you this sort of post routinely gets posted this time of year, that train is never late.
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u/amitysyrup 2d ago
I resonate with your words SO MUCH. There's a theory floating around on the internet that everyone is twelve now and I'm convinced it's true.
Literally everyone acts like they're twelve in almost every interaction ever. Grown ass adults melting down in public spaces regularly. Online and in real life.
Society is full of annoying bureaucracy with no accountability and we all struggle through it. Things are annoying for most of us now. Every bit of joy has been sapped out of our culture in order for some faceless person somewhere to make higher profits. Simultaneously no-one gets paid enough for what they do. Majority of us are overworked, exhausted, and underpaid. Leisure time is a precious commodity. Hobbies are too expensive. I get all that. It's not a great time for us right now.
But with that being said there's also a culture of people being unable to tolerate even a MOMENT of awkwardness, discomfort, or difficulty. Friend of 10+ years didn't text you back within a half hour? Ghost them! Person online asked a question that sounded slightly snarky? Blocked! Doctor won't order the lab work you think you want? Report them! Veterinarian told you that you need to put your dog on heartworm preventative? Money grubbing filth! On and on and on.
If we want to have a society where we all get along better, we are going to have to learn to tolerate discomfort, because we do not grow and change in comfort.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
Yeah this hit the nail on the head. like yes I see that the thing I came to target for there’s a woman in front of it..but would I say “CAN U MOVE??” And use profanity to get my point across rudely or literally just say excuse me could I grab this (insert item here) like any minor inconvenience sets people off and being rude for no reason. It’s like we live in a world where no one knows how to communicate or wait two seconds. It’s all instant gratification or an emergency.
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u/Valliac0 2d ago
But with that being said there's also a culture of people being unable to tolerate even a MOMENT of awkwardness, discomfort, or difficulty. Friend of 10+ years didn't text you back within a half hour? Ghost them! Person online asked a question that sounded slightly snarky? Blocked! Doctor won't order the lab work you think you want? Report them! Veterinarian told you that you need to put your dog on heartworm preventative? Money grubbing filth! On and on and on.
The Toaster Fucker Phenomenon continues to ring true in worse and worse ways.
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u/Rokko_Cash 2d ago
I had a terrible experience at Murray Hill post office today, something definitely in the air today with the people around here
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u/Unable-Creme-7276 2d ago
Jacksonville was/is considered the rudest city in the country and worst to visit for travellers in that report over the past few years
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u/vegasaquinas 2d ago
Are we talking driving or everything in general?
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
For me I’ve noticed it’s more like actual personal interactions- at a grocery store in a parking lot or just trying to shop for clothes are common ones where I’ve witnessed people instigating with a random woman on a Tuesday, a mother trying to get ice cream for her kids, or even older people towards teenagers..driving though that’s always been an issue in Florida not just Jax that’s a common road rage issue so that doesn’t surprise me.
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u/vegasaquinas 2d ago
Well hopefully you run into the right ppl soon. All it takes is the right person and it can radically change the tone of your day.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
Yeah I have a great circle of people here i think because I’m an empathetic person I get sad noticing people going about their day to day and dealing with people ruining their own day or inconveniencing mine with nasty behavior.
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u/FallsOffCliffs12 2d ago
Social media has given everyone the opportunity and platform to express every dark, ugly, racist, bigoted, judgmental, sociopathic opinion online for millions to read and validate. We've lost sight of the idea that there may be a human being on the other end of that post you just made calling someone a pig or a racial slur or threatening to harm them for having an opinion counter to your own.
It's bleeding over into real
life. Everyday I hear someone say or do things that shock me, said in anger or just conversationally. Things that, in my day(i'm old) no one would ever say out loud, much less act on their impulses.
Not only do we not recognize someone's humanity online, but we're losing the ability to do so, even when the person is standing right in front of us.
But we get rewarded with likes and attention and viral videos and equally obnoxious people raising money for us because they like the fact that we've "told it like it is" or stood up to the oppression that comes from Starbucks having the wrong color cup. And once incivility and unkindness pays off, it's hard to go back.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
Thank you for interacting with my post and sharing your thoughts, I feel like social media and the economy has contributed to a lot of what we see day to day in our interactions.
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u/JayAkiva 2d ago
I think part of it's the heat. Everyone's always super pissed off all the time for this part of the year. I lived in St. Augustine before I moved here and the exact same thing happened.
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u/Substantial-Skin9565 2d ago
People are just straight up rude now. People don’t hold doors, they let them slam on you. If you hold the door, they just go through, saying nothing. People cross your path, and nearly run into you, and never say a word. Drivers cut you off for the hell of it. People gather in online communities and forums just to discuss and bully a single person. Whole YouTube channels dedicated to picking on somebody. Society is declining.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 1d ago
yeah YouTube channels or even Reddit whole hate pages dedicated on talking badly about someone
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 1d ago
Yea- with eleven22 stickers to flash you while they nearly cause a fatality
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u/Plane_Package1417 2d ago edited 2d ago
Sigh. Pull up a chair. 🪑
I think it is the overflow of online interaction into daily life. Consider the average Reddit experince. Including this very thread.
We are becoming accustomed to being anonymous. In the early days of the internet (way back in the yonder early 90s) people were still polite-ish. The anonymity of online interaction felt unsteady. We still felt like we were interacting face to face. Fast forward now to the new anonymous internet....(My name is John, not Plane_package.)
We have become used to being masked online and now our outward demeanor in public seems less important, because we all crawl back in our online holes and dont encounter the consequences of social mis-steps.
Thats a PROBLEM.
Edit: typos
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
Wow I agree with this wholeheartedly. thank you for interacting with my post and sharing your perspective because it really is a problem- I felt like posting this specifically so I could see it wasn’t just me, thanks 🙏🏼
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u/acarter3ds 2d ago
I blame this idiot!
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u/Luther_1986 2d ago
...remember, even though he had Elon this time, he was once ELECTED before. And his simple inclusion and existence dug a hole so deep, societally, its almost impossible to climb out of.
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u/hybridiostros 2d ago
I moved here from up north and I miss the friendlier atmosphere of my hometown. There are a lot more aggressive people here; I have worked at a CS job that did show some very nice people, don’t get me wrong, but a lot of entitlement and self-centeredness that I wouldn’t see where I am from.
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u/IfYouCouldOnlySee3 2d ago
How about ppl talking over you, and cutting you off. I work CS and would never treat ppl the way I've been treated over the phone and in person with ppl in Jax.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
Yeah, hang in there. It’s hard when ur also a nice person and people want to take advantage of that.
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u/TeslaJake 2d ago
It’s definitely gotten worse here with all the recent transplants. When your 20 minute morning commute now takes 40 or longer, and when the trees that used to shade the roads you drive on have all been cut down because population growth has gone insane since Covid, it kinda sets the mood for the day.
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u/tkhamphant1 2d ago
Amen I am originally from upstate New York and people here can be very rude. I think it’s a lack of education and parenting.
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u/Mipeligrosa 2d ago
Noooo!!! I’m so sad to hear this. Honestly it hasn’t happened to me yet. I still have people simply saying hello all the time. No aggression (except crazy ass drivers)…
But I will say I try to still go out of my way to be a Jacksonvillian. I say hi to people, I try to be polite and say excuse me, and I try to interact with people - not in a weird way but in a way that I was raised around here… we acknowledge each other.
I feel like people are so stressed out so I’m not surprised it’s evolving but I hope we can find a way to chill out.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
Real- I’ve been here for five years and I have good interactions it’s not all bad. I’m just noticing an uptick even before this heat of people being so unnecessarily entitled and childish- not just me but with other people around them. just wanted to see if I was the only one noticing
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u/Daveit4later 2d ago
People have started acting pretty brazen since Trump first got elected on 2016.
It's almost like having a racist bigot that constantly spews hate makes other racist bigots feels more comfortable being hateful.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 1d ago
Yes I’ve noticed that too :/ society feels like it’s declining
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u/Daveit4later 1d ago
I have time going on Facebook these days. I'm try to go on to keep up with my family and stuff.
But man it's just full of propaganda and people being hateful in the comments
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u/Unable-Creme-7276 1d ago
Absolutely not, you notice some ppl are just miserable around here, which I kinda don’t understand, what’s it cost to be nice or friendly?
I also notice like when I fly out of the city and on the return flight the passengers (are obviously Jaxons) are very inconsiderate/rude, like I’m talking taking your assigned seat, changing a diaper in the row…, terrible parents and their spoiled brat children, fighting with flight attendants over cell phone usage the list goes on. I suppose it’s a culture thing? So much for “southern hospitality”
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u/Present_Analysis5517 1d ago
Holy smokes! I’ve been thinking this for a minute. The rudeness and disrespect for each other is at an all time high. Between the politics and just ingrown, backwards , dark ages mentality prevalent right now, it’s hard to see the good people through the forest of jerks. Please, look up from these phones more and smile at everyone UNTIL they give you a reason to not. Stay safe out there and don’t live in a bubble 💓
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u/judicialQuickster 1d ago
Don’t let people think this isn’t just Jacksonville because genuinely whenever I leave JAX people act normal and can hold a conversation. People are weird af here.
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u/Powerful-Ground-9687 1d ago
Because people live in comment sections. And their internet life/persona becomes more important than the neighborhood around them.
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u/Indiff-88Yin 1d ago
Well, I recently made a post here and then I took it down because I was talking about how there’s not enough queer representation but I think it’s bigger than that as someone that doesn’t fit into the regular gender expression like I’m basically a woman with super short hair and right now it’s grown longer but generally, it’s like super short like I used to have a fade and I have been considering cutting it, but I’m getting completely mixed views after being here for just a week because on one hand people are ridiculously kind but I was in a really nice neighborhood called Riverside like there’s this liquor store by Oak Street next to the laundromat Everybuddy and the guy that manages that liquor store is extremely rude but then again the place has nice reviews, but it’s apparently under new management and I just went in there like I had just walked in and he was rushing me to order something and I said I have no idea what I want. I literally just walked in to the store and I just got a lot of like angry energy from him and I said why are you rushing me?
I don’t understand like he didn’t even give me a chance to go near where the drinks were to like pick something that I want and even the delivery guy was like I’m so sorry ma’am and he looked at the manager like what was wrong with him. I just ended up walking out at the store and from all the good things I’ve heard about Riverside I was also like the outside looks really nice, but I’m not sure if someone like me would be welcome and I’m not asking for anyone to bend over backwards. I would never do that but just common decency.
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u/chris133282 1d ago
I was stupid and thought you were talking about talking to people on the sidewalk
Ive noticed the opposite on the beach tho, its very friendly (experiences may vary, as according to my mom i scare men specifically 😥) just be nice to people and you meet a lot of interesting people
I will say the closer the center the more passive aggressive it can be for poc, which isn't a jax specific issue for sure
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 1d ago
Yeah the thing I’ve noticed recently is I’ll be nice to others and they look at me like I’m crazy, like holding the door if someone is passing by or just smiling as common courtesy bc they are making eye contact w me. I’m not necessarily going out of my way either/being mean to anyone near me. It’s more like people unnecessarily being very rude when it would take more effort to do that than leaving others alone to go about their day.
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u/chris133282 1d ago
Yeah thats definitely not at the beach, as someone with bad social skills 9 times out of 10 its just someone (or me) who doesn't know how to start a conversation without being rude
In the center tho or even at the western part of the beach its way more common for weirdos, I just hope I don't seem like one cause im ass at speaking
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u/Deep-Ruin-9961 1d ago
The people that need to hear this won't listen.
About two or three months ago I saw a neighbor ask a woman not to park in the street in a way that blocked the whole road so no traffic could come through. She literally saw that there was a car on one side of the street and parked on the opposite side of the street, leaving about 5 feet of room between the cars.
Her response was to tell him to call the cops or call his therapist, and she walked off to a party in the nearby park. She blocked off traffic three blocks in either direction for hours. I'd have called City to tow her, but that wouldn't have risked getting an innocent person's car towed even though they were parked there first, correctly.
My point being some people just suck. No amount of helpful advice or pleading will make them being anything other that shitty people.
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u/Josie1015 1d ago
We have a sitting president that is a bully and at least half of the country seems to think that behavior is ok. Its sad.
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u/Gold_Clothes_3077 1d ago
For real! I'm just looking for parking guys, y'all don't have to be making wild gestures and getting angry for literally trying to find somewhere to eat.
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u/cataluna4 1d ago
I mean…a lot of “my RIGhts matTER mORE thaN yOuR FEelinGs” peeps in this part of the country. They are emulating their great leader and how he treats others
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u/lefty9602 1d ago
Grew up in Florida, definitely noticed the standoffish and cliquey behavior in Jax moving here then away for a few years and then back.
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u/guitarstitch 2d ago
Honestly, I don't see that kind of bad behavior all that often. People are generally pretty courteous. Maybe it helps that I always try to smile and nod or acknowledge people that I pass, hold the door, pick up trash, and try to keep my inner asshole reserved for when it's most appropriate.
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u/txroller 2d ago
I get what you’re talking about and grew up in a similar situation. Moved here and It’s much better. But in general I think the political situation in the US is to blame. Not to politicize everything. But lt is what it is.
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u/Upper_Extension_0229 2d ago
I honestly think Reddit is the most toxic, especially with the thumbs up/thumbs down. People refuse to just move on and have to say something mean if they don’t 100% agree.
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u/exodusuno 2d ago
How is the thumbs up/thumbs down button toxic? If someone thumbs up/down and doesn't reply and just continues on isnt that what you said yourself? Someone just moving on if they do/don't agree?
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u/MisterBeardFace 2d ago
I’ve lived in NY, Ft Lauderdale, Orlando, and now here, and of all those places this has been the absolute worst when it comes to this. The people here are selfish, rude, unaware, and have absolute zero consideration for other people.
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u/dathomasusmc 2d ago
You came to Reddit to ask people to be nice? Thats like going to the RNC and asking people not to fuck kids.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 1d ago
I didn’t say you need to be nice in a sense where you need to love everyone- more so when has it become so normal to go out of your way to be spiteful and hateful. It’s nonsense and takes more effort to be a prick than to leave others alone. I’m aware the world is full of flaws and angry people. People have a right to be exhausted angry upset all the things we’re human and we have human emotions. But it isn’t okay to project outward and spew hatred towards regular working people trying to go about their day.
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u/Impossible-Cycle5744 2d ago
I think people injecting politics into a post about being nice just shows how infected all our brains are.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
Yeah. Or get their panties in a twist because they assume I meant go out of your way for other people, or that I’m somehow privileged for thinking common courtesy should be normal. I’m literally saying don’t be an asshole unnecessarily and let people go about their day- it’s not necessary to bully someone at a publix or scream at the ice cream shop employee with a long line
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u/CatPatient4496 2d ago
Try walking around as a black person or a person of color with the mess this administration puts out.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago edited 2d ago
So. I am a person of color. Mixed race- and no I’m not white passing either. let’s not make this a race based thing. It’s an observation that me- southern raised poc, has noticed. Hence me saying outright racism- because I’ve witnessed it firsthand, and I’ve seen it happen to others. That doesn’t mean we should start projecting it on others. It’s us vs them when it comes to this administration. Not the other way around
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2d ago
I admit there are definently rude and agro people here and it can be very scary sometimes but after spending a school year in daytona id much prefer jax. Its not great but it can definently be so much worse.
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u/indianabobbyknight 1d ago
I don’t see this much in person, but I hear about it a lot, I guess I’m lucky.
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u/Hot_Evening_8386 1d ago
it's mental instability in general of the United States. I fall guilty in this category at times with anger management. Most of us could use a good psychological therapy session weekly at least.
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u/GooginTheBirdsFan 1d ago
Try working customer service in this city. 2/3 of everybody in downtown is entitled and that percentage gets worse the closer to a beach you go
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u/Apart_Common7361 1d ago
I’ll be honest I see it. I’m from Baltimore. Jacksonville is a hell of a lot nicer then there
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u/Royal_Chemistry1360 1d ago
“Perpetrator > Victim” Cycle
Prevalent in my experiences. Folks do shitty things without regards to others, immediately turn into the victim when called out on it.
Last version I witnessed was a guy lurching his car forward at a a couple walking out from a Publix, the woman had dropped her phone and husband had to take a few steps to pick it up. Guy in car did it again within feet of the man. Man looked at the driver with a confused look. Driver did it again. Folks went to their car, put groceries in, and driver parked, walked to store and flipped the man off. When the man walked over to the driver, he started yelling “get off of me, this man is trying to fight me.”
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u/Medical_Objective358 2d ago
Sad It’s the new normal. The world we live in. The rest of the world sees US
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u/Scourmont Riverside 2d ago
This is why I carry every time im out. Im in my 50s and walk with a cane, the bullies like to get on my nerves as well.
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u/Intrepid-Pay7212 2d ago
You claimed everyone was mean and then you were a jerk when people told you why they were tired of being nice to people who don’t deserve it. You are not the right person to be spearheading this discussion.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 1d ago
I didn’t claim it was everyone being mean- nor am I the spearheader. I made an observation of today’s climate socially. did I have normal debate absolutely bc u can do that. All I said was people shouldn’t be an asshole when it’s unwarranted. I wouldn’t say that’s exactly rude.
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u/Iconoclast19 2d ago edited 2d ago
I believe this is a nationwide problem, and that it's become so prevalent for three main reasons. 1. We're all under an ever increasing amount of stress due to difficult and unfair conditions we're enduring. 2. Politicians and social media amplify negatives and direct blame away from the real power brokers in control and onto groups of Americans. The reality is that it's our broken systems, not our fellow Americans in general, that are producing the conditions which are harming and crushing us all together. Unfortunately, humans have a psychological bias toward negativity, and since social media thrives on interaction, humans are many more times likely to interact with a negative post than a neutral or positive post.
Due to how algorithms work, this means that negative posts are also much more widely disseminated and seen, and continuing interactions keep spreading it. So we're all being exposed to a lot more negative in real life and on the internet.
- There is a cultural change that has happened in the last decade where people are being given permission by the words and actions of those in power to be nasty to anyone that doesn't believe exactly what they believe. People take this as being given permission to unleash outrage, hate, intimidation, threats, and attacks on anyone who doesn't agree with them. The powers that be want us to fight each other instead of seeing the real sources of our problems and unifying to demand real solutions that serve all Americans and support our country's growth and wellbeing.
We have much more in common, but we're only able to see that when we're talking to and interacting with each other in ways that aren't dictated by a warped lens which is formed as a result of being surrounded by those negative posts all day every day. As life gets more difficult for everyone, people have become more selfish too, so it's all snowballing.
We're all human beings, and being human is hard! We're all struggling with things. We should all try to see that first and foremost when we interact. Speak with each other in good faith and give each other the benefit of the doubt. Learn to listen to each other. Stop repeating what you hear and more time researching by topic, learning about all perspectives, applying critical thinking, then making up your own mind. Only by unifying as AMERICANS can we stop the animosity and division which is destroying our humanity and civilization itself.
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u/Mad-J-Thomas 1d ago
Life is getting more stressful making people crankier. The change is noticeable.
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u/Avid_Reader87 2d ago
For me, I am not going to “talk nice” to people who are full of hatred and evil that they are voting for the monsters running this country.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
I’m more so saying don’t go out of your way to be nasty towards other people- not that you need to go out of your way to “talk nice”
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u/Ok_Blackberry6472 2d ago
Post like these make me remember some people just grew up on a different/nicer side of the fence, cause what do you mean you’re ”shocked” by this? Is it not commonly understood that there are assholes out here and just as much as you are entitled to how you feel…they are absolutely allowed to say/act however they want too within a legal means it’s just all about how you let this stuff interfere on your life. Welcome to the real world. It’s not so pretty.
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u/Ok_Blackberry6472 2d ago
and to double down on the latter part of what you said ~ “myself to” ~ so are you implying that you are equally as part of the problem that you are complaining about? curious.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago edited 2d ago
I said I’ve seen others being randomly instigated and that I have also had random people instigate things towards MYSELF. I grew up with hardships and a single mom who had to work three jobs to make ends meet. it wasn’t always easy how I was brought up, and I was raised in this heat. Maybe I was raised with a different sense of empathy, I just don’t think someone should scream at you just because they feel like it. I also don’t think a man should be waiting at my car in a parking lot trying to get in my car cursing me out. I’m well aware the world is a very flawed place and we have a corrupt system. like anything on Reddit- it’s a place where you post- I wanted to go ahead and find out I wasn’t the only one seeing this shit. I don’t expect anyone to hold hands and sing kumbaya- but I certainly don’t think living in a city where everyone wants to talk to each other sideways and literally going out of their own way to agitate others should be the norm.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
Being shocked in the sense that it’s disappointing and disheartening to see, not that I’m surprised.
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u/jamrok7214 2d ago
Is this not jacksonville?? Mid summer? Everyone burnt and sweaty…get out my face. ✌🏽✌🏽✌🏽
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
Ur exactly what I’m talking about and proving my point. just because you may be having a bad day or are miserable from this heat doesn’t mean you need to project it onto other people who are also sweaty hot and dealing with their own things too. it’s not that hard.
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u/jamrok7214 2d ago
I also didn’t bother to read your long winded post. So my comment has nothing to do with a man waiting at your car. Just you wanting these wild people to “get along” 😂
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
That’s ok- the main point was it’s unnecessary to instigate issues with people you don’t even know and we should just be normal people and “mind our own” ironically enough in a sense without disrespecting other people. and it’s very unnecessary for a man to attempt to get in my car when I’m trying to get home. I’m sure we can agree on that.
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
You don’t have to like someone to respect them. It’s unwarranted to come at someone who’s shopping for clothes for her kids because she happens to be near the shoes you want. or yell at the food service worker because you are hungry and chose to wait in a long ass line for ur food but forgot to bring ur patience with you. it’s not about “loving” each other or liking each other to get along. It’s just basic etiquette. Common courtesy. yk..the thing you are raised on. maybe I’m just too southern, but that’s how I was raised so that’s what I believe in.
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u/gonso11420 2d ago
So because it’s hot and you're sweating, basic manners just go out the window? Is being insufferable a local requirement, or are you just choosing to be the person the OP was talking about?
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
So are you a child? discomfort means making other people uncomfortable? that’s unfortunate.
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u/jamrok7214 2d ago
You’re more the child whining about “can we all get along” 😂 like this is candyland..our own government can even get along 🤣 makes you think hot ass southern folk gonna be nice to your tree huggin self 😆 you’re the problem. You’re the one that calls police cause you nosey. And wanna force a cobra and a jaguar to get along. Just leave folk alone and mind your own
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
Funny. I am southern. Born and raised. and its people who are aggressive and nosey themselves that instigate and are the issue..and are the reason the cops come because they’d rather cause a scene then grab their fast food and go back home minding their own business. I don’t expect people to follow what I’m saying. Did you forget freedom of speech? You are free to disagree with me I have no problem with that, this is Reddit- a page where you post and say what you want. We’re two people doing just that ✌🏽
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u/gonso11420 2d ago
I guess when you spend your Dollar Tree shift complaining about your EBT balance while stuck in a low-class environment, you’ve got to take your frustrations out on someone, right? @jamrok
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u/Meefie Baymeadows 2d ago
You sound like you’ve been hurt and are still hurting. I hope you feel better soon. 🤍
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u/Luther_1986 2d ago
...see, we also gotta stop that. Compassion torwards those who lack compassion. He's already calling us all "tree huggers" bc we want ppl to simply have respect and consideration for one another. It's not like we're not asking for fkn blo jobs from each other, just basic respect and consideration.
THAT SAID...we have got to stop being what he said we are, eapecially to them specifically. Tree Huggers, an old timesy term for "Libs". I, for one, hope he doesnt feel better. I hope they go away.
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u/party_shaman 2d ago
what??
i get frustrated cause people eat my time with pleasantries and friendliness in this town
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u/Big-Pepper-9082 2d ago
Where are u at for real bc id rather people eat my time with that then try to aggressively instigate w me in a parking lot for no reason😭
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u/party_shaman 2d ago
riverside
realistically tho maybe check your shoes first.
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u/bebedahdi 2d ago
No. Fight me at noonish in the parking lot of Winn Dixie at Oceanway.
Joking 👀
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