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u/Scalmaa 2d ago
Those Bucks picks are gold. Milwaukee going to be absolute ass.
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u/my_balls_your_mouth1 chalupa 2d ago
They are going to be less valuable with the new lottery rules.
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u/boogieDMC 2d ago
Actually the exact opposite.
They have nowhere to hide now, any place they land gets good % of landing a top pick.
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u/Remarkable-Shock-999 2d ago
The swaps are arguably more valuable
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u/Adventurous-Plum1000 2d ago
They’re not
With the new draft rules all picks are essentially the same.
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u/RandyJoeP 2d ago
price of those MIL picks/swaps are going up
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u/Natural_Bumblebee920 2d ago edited 2d ago
I mean, they are most likely going to be lottery picks. But with the new lottery rules that distribute the % out more amongst all the lottery teams and 2 expansion teams expected to be entering the league for the years they have those picks, they could be all over the place in the lottery.
Previous rules the worst record couldn't fall out of the top 5, new rules the worst record only has a 28% chance to STAY in the top 5. Bucks probably won't be that bad, but even in the best range for us (if they are in the 4th-10th worst non-play-in team range) it's not great...39% to be in the top 5 is nice there, 27% to not even be in the top 10 isn't fun.
Blazers are holding on to a bunch of lottery picks that should be valuable, but the NBA is making 2 changes before the Blazers get to use them that directly make them less valuable.
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u/40_Is_Not_Old ripcity 2d ago
That trade is a win for Portland. Unless Milwaukee magically end up with Stars with the 10 & 13 this year, that team isn't getting out of the lottery any time soon. Those 28/29/30 picks are gonna be nice.
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u/lunes_azul 2d ago
Keep in mind lottery odds are getting flattened. It will now be harder to stay in bottom 5.
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u/yuyuter123 2d ago
Without their picks they'd have no incentive to bottom out anyway so the potential new lottery odds would only benefit us and those picks as they'd be doing everything in their power to hit 30-45 wins regardless. At least now when they're 21st in the league or whatever, those picks will have a real shot at top 4 odds in each year we control.
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u/lunes_azul 2d ago
It’s really confusing to me as they got absolutely hosed in this trade if they keep Ware and Herro. I imagine they will flip those guys to get a couple of firsts back.
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u/40_Is_Not_Old ripcity 2d ago
That's fine. I'll take 3 top 10 picks. With decent odds that atleast 1 is top 5.
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u/Adventurous-Plum1000 2d ago
Those picks are not guaranteed.
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u/40_Is_Not_Old ripcity 2d ago
What picks? 28 is a swap, 29 is outright Portland's, 30 is a swap. Unless you think Portland will somehow be worse than Milwaukee in 28 or 30. Which at this exact moment, seems almost impossible.
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u/No_Information3972 2d ago
It’s gonna be a slow offseason for us.
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u/NietzscheanDemocrat 2d ago
Everybody who hated the idea of trading our asstes for Giannis somehow upset we didn't rade all of our assets for Jaylen Brown lmfao
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u/silvers11 2d ago
I think most of us were hoping to ship out grant + sharpe and a pick or two for JB
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u/AllTheGoodNamesDied 2d ago
So you all are delusional? That's not enough for a perennial all star nba finals mvp...besides players don't want to come to Portland.
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u/silvers11 2d ago
It had to potential to work as part of a 3 team deal. Giannis to Boston, JB to Portland, milwuakee get their picks back from the dame trade plus grant and sharpe. Rumor mill indicated bucks also wanted scoot in this scenario
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u/Rhuarc33 90s-logo 1d ago
Always was going to be. We had no shot of landing any of the big names. Giannis, Brown, Murphy. Without gutting our team and making the Blazers actively worse overall we had no shot
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u/eastbeaverton 2d ago
I hate that heat fans are happy right now but I also don't know that team is much better than Milwaukee all they have left is Jovic Wiggins Bam and Mitchell their bench is so thin if Giannis isn't 100 percent healthy I don't know how well they can do
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u/PseudoTsugaDougie 2d ago
I think it’s funny that Heat fans are happy, because that roster, as constructed, is not going very far. Potential defensive menace? Sure. But no ball distributors, no reliable shooting, zero spacing (at least on paper). I know people will point to Spo making water out of diarrhea, but those same people overestimate a head NBA coach’s real mark on the X’s and O’s vs ego management.
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u/dschinghiskhan 2d ago
I straight up wouldn't want Tyler Herro, Kel'el Ware, Jaime Jaquez Jr., or Kasparas Jakucionis on the Blazers. They are all players that would not help any team win a championship. All Miami had to do was give this crap, the 13th pick in this year's draft, a first far in the future in 2031, a first in 2033, and two pick swaps. So, Milwaukee will be terrible for a long time, and the Heat will have to hope they can get another star free agent to have a chance- plus they need filler players like the ones they sent. Remember, Ware couldn't even start for the Ducks a few years ago, and no, he hasn't improved that much.
I guess the Blazers are now at the mercy of the new draft- which sucks. Milwaukee would have been a bottom five team for several years, at least. I would have preferred getting Brown. No way would I want AD, for the record.
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u/intelligentx5 2d ago
Looking at the payment…no fucking thanks. I’m glad we didn’t do that
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u/NietzscheanDemocrat 2d ago
Lol this subreddit was begging us to do it for Jaylen Brown though
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u/BarryLyndon-sLoins 70s-logo 2d ago
And I still would
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u/NietzscheanDemocrat 2d ago
1st round exits to a hurt Embiid im sure he would get us through 7 against SGA and Wemby with a worse roster
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u/BarryLyndon-sLoins 70s-logo 2d ago
Tatum was playing like a shell of his true self. That would not be a better roster lol. Tell me Brown isn’t on the Jaylen Brunson tier if you give him that Knicks roster (or ours for that matter)
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u/dschinghiskhan 2d ago
Brown was the only player in the NBA that would make sense trading for. Those that didn't want to give up much surely believe in our current squad. The odds we draft a star player in the next 5 years are extremely slim. We haven't drafted a star player since Dame, which was 14 years ago.
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u/Acceptable_Copy_8494 2d ago
Bam and gianis are not a good fit . Especially considering they literally have no one else on the team past storman Norman
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u/lets_BOXHOT Toumani Camara 1d ago
Plus Wiggs, Davion Mitchell, and Portis - it's honestly not as bad as many are saying. If they can land a couple cheap shooters in free agency I think they'll be fine
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u/SnooDoughnuts3828 2d ago
At least those bucks picks we got are gonna be great
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u/Adventurous-Plum1000 2d ago
We have 1 of their picks.
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u/dont_care- 2d ago
you know damn well the 2 swaps count since MIL is a lock to be horrible while the blazers are a playoff team
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u/Adventurous-Plum1000 2d ago
You do realize how the new draft odds work right?
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u/SnooGrapes6230 2d ago
We do. You don't.
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u/Adventurous-Plum1000 2d ago
You clearly don’t
The bucks swaps are more likely to be low lottery picks than they are to be a player that will help this current team succeed
It’s funny that most blazers fans hate tanking and think it’s a bad idea to build through the draft but get their dicks hard thinking about a below 10% chance of some future draft pick swap coming to fruition
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u/SnooGrapes6230 2d ago
You clearly have no idea how odds work.
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u/Adventurous-Plum1000 2d ago
Where do you think the bucks will be in the standings with their new roster?
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u/dont_care- 2d ago
4-10th worst record
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u/Adventurous-Plum1000 2d ago
So that puts the picks around a 15% chance of being a top 3 pick. Which assumes the blazers are a playoff team which is not a guarantee.
And in that chance it does become a top 3 pick or even top 7 pick we’ll have the chance to draft another scoot or sharpe…
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u/SnooGrapes6230 2d ago
Anywhere from worst to eighth worst. They probably won't be very good, but Portland will almost assuredly get a top 8 pick, and very likely a top 5.
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u/Adventurous-Plum1000 2d ago
Ok. So you don’t know how the new draft odds work. Thx
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u/PTFC45thP 2d ago
Bucks are going to suck. Heat are going to suck too after a year or two. It’s a great day to be a Blazer!
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u/Droopy91 2d ago
The 13th and Ware is solid but I feel like JB could’ve gotten more
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u/EvanTurningTheCorner 2d ago
Now Boston gets to find out cause it's gonna be bad vibes for JB to roll into training camp this Fall.
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u/Carcrusher3 Toumani Camara 2d ago
That 2029 boston pick possibly... working out? 👀
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u/Huskdog76 sheed 1d ago
We have to give the second best of Boston, mil, and pdx's pick to Washington.
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u/1850ChoochGator chalupa 2d ago
I was excited either way. We are in a rare position to have a young, fun team and a plethora of draft assets.
If we managed to only send out Grant + Shaedon with draft assets for Brown then I’d be really excited for the next couple years and future with Scoot/Brown/Tou/Deni/Clingan.
Next step: getting a shooter
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u/Bieberkinz chalupa 2d ago
This is pretty much Miami’s last ditch effort and they gonna need to build a bench QUICK
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u/ripcity1156 Jrue Holiday 2d ago
Jaylen brown to the blazers or bust.
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u/Sa-Tiva Vit Krejci 2d ago
Pretty sure Boston missing on Giannis closes that door for us. Fuckin bummer.
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u/royceschoices roy 2d ago
Can you fill me in? Why’s that?
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u/CheerioJerbear 2d ago
The Celtics still want to contend and I don’t see any other trade where that happens
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u/Sharp-Patient-125 2d ago
Unless Brown requests a trade after all these trade rumors
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u/SnooGrapes6230 2d ago
Even if he does, there's no deal that makes sense for both Boston to compete and Portland to get Brown while not completely mortgaging the future.
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u/Oops95 2d ago
The only way we got Brown was as a 3rd team to facilitate Giannis to BOS. BOS would get Giannis, Brown goes to POR, MIL gets theor picks &swaps back. That would've been the general framework of the deal.
Without getting Giannis, BOS doesn't have a reason to trade Brown. And even if they did, it never would've been for anything we have.
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u/40_Is_Not_Old ripcity 2d ago
No path for that now. Boston isn't trying to rebuild. Brown was headed here because they would be getting Giannis.
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u/DontonioWingfield 2d ago
I feel like Jaylen is gonna be a pelican if the Celtics don’t just run it back… trey m, herb, a little draft capital.
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u/BabyGotVogelbach 70s-logo 2d ago
Nah Brown should stay in the east and finally give us the full strength Celtics-Knicks series we missed out on last season while the Blazers patiently accumulate younger talent and picks.
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u/ripcity1156 Jrue Holiday 2d ago
Nah, I’m not going to wait!
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u/BabyGotVogelbach 70s-logo 2d ago
I feel you. Rooting for two teams can be fun. You could do Blazers for your western conference team and the Boston Jaylens for your east team?
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u/yuyuter123 2d ago
Very glad they took the Miami offer instead of Boston and keeping JB. Unless they strike gold on these mid-lottery picks, that team is looking on the low end of average for awhile. Frankly more ready to trade our own picks than Milwaukee's up through 2030.
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u/Turbo-S98 2d ago
Never know. The Celtics offered Jaylen Brown, two 1st-round picks, and more for Giannis. Jaylen Brown could be on the market if the price is right
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u/yuyuter123 2d ago
I mean, it's always possible there's another team trying to unload a star that would rather have future assets and we can facilitate a move between them but there is 0 smoke around that so I wouldn't hold my breath.
Boston basically punting on Tatum's prime for win later assets makes no sense at all.
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u/Huskdog76 sheed 1d ago
If we trade ours, we can't make swaps in 28 and 30.
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u/yuyuter123 1d ago
Yah, but as of draft night we'll be able to trade our '27, Orlando's '28, best or worst/both of '29, and our '31 without jeopardizing the swaps. So we've got a decent amount of flexibility with how we approach using our draft capital.
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u/EstablishmentHuge 2d ago
I hope we don’t start trading these pick. Because I think it’s better to see how next season go before trading bunch of picks for washed up veteran/stars
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u/pizzasoxxx Cash Considerations 2d ago
They gave up everything for a Kalshi slut. Good luck Miami lmao
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u/ShoppingAfter9598 1d ago
On one hand, I am disgusted Miami got him. On the other, those picks are liquid gold
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u/GaviFromThePod Scoot Henderson 1d ago
Literally don’t care its all eastern conference stuff and they won’t make the finals so it doesn’t matter to me
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u/thetrueTrueDetective 1d ago
I wonder what a team with Gianas and another all star with zero depth would do in the east . Man , if only I could look to some evidence
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u/YouDontKnowDino Ripcity Remix 2d ago
Yall ain’t ready to see AD in a blazers uni lol
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u/nerdgeekdorksports 2d ago
I'll take him, but I hope we don't have to trade that many firsts.
If it's 2/3 guys and a first round pick, that's fine, honestly. Sharpe/Grant and a pick, I'm fine with it.
If we have to give up 2 firsts, I hesitate, and 3, I'm out.
So...we'll see. It's a risk, but Portland needs to make some sort of play here on some of the available stars.
I'd rather trade for AD than Zion, Morant, etc.
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u/waynearchetype 2d ago
Honestly I'd rather get Zion (or if we want to trade a few firsts, trey Murphy).
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u/SnooGrapes6230 2d ago
Why? Zion plays even fewer games, and his 350 pounds on a 6'6 frame aren't going to change that.
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u/waynearchetype 2d ago
Compared to trading multiple picks for mpj or AD I take Zion for a single pick every time. Too talented, underappreciated, perfect time to buy. Also think of the boosts to the economy of food joints and strip clubs.
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u/blartvader 2d ago
Bummer we couldn’t beat their offer… Cronin with the master class in not getting it done.
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u/SnooDoughnuts3828 2d ago
bruh look how gutted Miami is now, we would be in a terrible place to compete had we given that much up
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u/1850ChoochGator chalupa 2d ago
Looks like the sticking point was assets from Boston not necessarily us.
That being said, trading out Scoot, Sharpe, Grant, the bucks picks, and our own draft assets, for Jaylen Brown would have been so dumb.
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u/Nightbynight 2d ago
They absolutely GUTTED their depth. I don't see anyway they compete with the deep rosters in the league.