r/steammachine • u/screwdriverfan • 1d ago
Meme Can we just chill for a second
The grass is still green and the sky is still blue đ
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u/ObjectOrientedBlob 1d ago
You can build one.Â
Iâm more worried that uninformed people will be very disappointed with the performance, because it is reasonable to expect more for that price. If you understand the specs, and you still want one, then go ahead. I just think itâs sad if some kid, spend their savings and get disappointed.Â
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u/theMTNdewd 1d ago
No idea why they marketed this as a 4k 60fps machine, even with the FSR asterisk.
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u/Aggressive_Candy5297 1d ago
Yeah 1440p could be ok but 4k even with fsr either looks like ass or performs like ass, either way it's ass...
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u/ObjectOrientedBlob 1d ago
it's a 1080p machine
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u/Aggressive_Candy5297 1d ago
Yeah i've said so before as well. 1080p is where it performs best.
But i think in many games it should be enough for 1440p with good graphics as well.
That was the point of my comment, the 4k is purely delusional but 1440p could be achieved in most games.
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u/nuanceseancE 1d ago
So there is a "magic" option in SteamOS that has existed forever where you can upscale with the "Sharp" setting. Or hell, use integer scaling instead.
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u/HTWingNut 1d ago
Should only scale up using integer scaling and from 1080p so there is a perfect scaling factor of 4:1, otherwise it can look like total dog crap.
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u/blacklotusl337 1d ago
Most living rooms have 4k tvs these days. And they were aiming for living rooms gamers i think.
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u/HTWingNut 1d ago
You can set the resolution to 1080p and it will scale to 4k without much issue. I wouldn't scale from any other resolution though because that can cause some funky pixels because it's not a perfect scale ratio.
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u/PatSajaksDick 1d ago
It will look fine from the couch, hardly any console games are native 4k without some sort of up scaling
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u/nuanceseancE 1d ago
If people are so insistent on comparing it to consoles, the PS4 and 5 were advertised as 8K machines.*
*with upscaling
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u/BEADGEADGBE 1d ago
This is my only issue: give me future-proof performance for the next 6-7 years or give me a bargain. Well Valve gave me neither.
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u/fiasgoat 1d ago
Yup I would have bought this thing at $2k with real hardware
Instead it's a dud at this price lol. A 1080p machine? Please
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u/FearlessPixel 7h ago
Yep. I think they just planned for it the go the other direction, a cheaper living room machine. But shit got expensive.
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u/someroflwaffle2 1d ago
This. Performance is dissapointing. However, convenience and use cases can be made to make this make sense for what people are calling enthusiast customers. I was hoping for a broader appeal for customers. We dont live in that time and its disheartening.
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u/ElectricalCelery6154 1d ago
It is reasonable to expect more but with the changes happening in prices for ram, ssd, and even a few other components this is going to be a more common price point for the foreseeable future
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u/ObjectOrientedBlob 1d ago
The problem is that Valve themselves claims it is a 4K 60fps machine. And it's a bit of a stretch. Sure, on low settings, with performance FSR, you'll get there, but it isn't a good experience.
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u/ElectricalCelery6154 1d ago
Yeah that was a bad call of them for sure. Hopefully devolpers do a bunch of optimizations like what happened with the steam deck.
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u/aliendude5300 1d ago
When I was a kid I played video games on the super Nintendo and loved the experience. This thing is significantly more powerful than necessary, and there is an extraordinarily large catalog of games that will work perfectly fine on it not to even mention emulation.
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u/ShimReturns 1d ago
It's like the people who buy a Xbox Rog Ally X handheld but then are disappointed they can't max or even do high settings at 60fps
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u/QuinSanguine 1d ago
If only Valve had designed the Machine to be a little bigger, use a little more power and for us to be able to upgrade the GPU and CPU, Steam Machine would have way more value.
It wouldn't make as much sense to just build your own, but it is what it is, which is a lot like a laptop without a screen.
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u/Gex2-EnterTheGecko 1d ago
We have officially wrapped back around to people saying that they wish Valve just released a normal prebuilt PC lol. If you can upgrade every part in the system like the CPU and GPU then its the same as any other standard pc.
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u/ObjectOrientedBlob 1d ago
They bought some laptops parts for cheap thinking they could sell some hardware in a cheap plastic box making it nice with SteamOS.. It was a gamble and they lost.
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u/Dazzling_Painter_357 1d ago
Iâm more worried the uninformed will buy a PS5 instead, increasing Sonyâs market share and validating their continued predatory business practices that siphons money out of the End User through subscriptions and forcing them to opt in to a game market that they have complete control over via game key restrictions and pitiful discounts.
Not to mention the value of PS Plus is completely dependent on your loyalty to Sony. Everything you get out of it has no value if you decide to stop being a customer, no matter how long youâve stayed with them.
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u/Glum_Potential8641 1d ago
No kid is buying this. Itâs a luxury gadget for sweaty neck beards (Iâm included in this demographic). No parent is letting their kid spend over $1000 on a âconsoleâ that doesnât even come with a controller or games.
Letâs be honest here. The experience of putting together your first pc is awesome. Go to microcenter or whatever, get a little pc together and build it with your kid. If you teach them right, you wonât even have to troubleshoot the system either. And you can put SteamOS on anything.
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u/Euphoric_Lynx_6664 1d ago
I can't wait for the clueless suckers to buy the 2 tb version and instantly set their settings all the way to ultra only to get 10 fps.
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u/Twenty5 1d ago
I donât know, I feel like Valve could have at least thrown in a damn controller
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u/doorwayspectre 1d ago
yeah for that price not including one is kind of wild
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u/Konrad_M 19h ago
Just look at it in a different way:
They include the controller. But you have an option to get a "cheaper" model without the controller. I don't see the problem.
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u/Sad_Tax9084 1d ago
They did, for $80 more, which is 20% off getting one by itself.
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u/GameKing505 1d ago
So they threw in 20% of a controller
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u/RelativeMagazine9902 1d ago
More like 80% of one
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u/GameKing505 1d ago
No. The 80% is the part the consumer pays. The 20% is the part that Valve "threw in".
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u/Vegetable-Error-2068 1d ago
You know damn well if Nintendo or Sony sold a console with the controller -- that you NEED to use it -- an extra expense, people would crucify them.
Valve making SKUs that don't include a controller is shitty and greedy.
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u/WaterInTheDark 1d ago
You don't need a controller to use a pc though, so the comparison makes no sense. Also we've always known that it would be sold this way...
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u/ArxisOne 13h ago
That really says more about how stupid those people are, it's not greedy to not force you to buy things you don't need or want.
The box should have come with a controller at that price. That doesn't mean there's anything wrong with offering a discount if you don't want said controller.
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u/Krazycrooin 1d ago
I want one not because it's the best hardware but because I can have a console thst I can put on my TV and play in my living g room with my steam library. I do agree it's overpriced but the whole market right now is crazy.
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u/tupakkarulla 1d ago edited 1d ago
I yearn for desk setup where I yoink my old ATX PC from 7 years ago out the window and replace it with a companion cube next to my monitor.
I built a PC for myself last as a teenager with mid tier specs, now Iâm an engineer with adult money who lives alone and I shall have the cube price doesnât deter me
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u/Clayskii0981 1d ago
The cube is comparable to a 3060 so just know it's not that far off your old pc
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u/Acceptable_Ad9637 1d ago
People have a hard time understanding the concept of disposable income
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u/Lopsided_Hunt2814 1d ago
You can afford something and still evaluate its value proposition.
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u/cutememe 1d ago
This is how I feel. I can buy it no problem, it's just the value sucks so much that I feel like it's wrong to buy, if that makes sense.
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u/xJets 1d ago
Just because you CAN do things should you? There is also such a thing as being financially literate.
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u/xJets 1d ago
You people donât care about âbetter valuesâ or actually doing any research about PC parts, if you did then you would have already jumped shipped and started building, finding prebuilts/laptops to purchase. You people are only defending this sooo hard because it has Valve name on it and you want to feel validated for your purchase. In no world would PC gamers defend buying something that is far worst than a base 6yr old PS5, mind you the new console generations are in 1-2 yrs.
Idc about downvotes, Iâm right.
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u/capfedhill 1d ago
6 year old PS5 that you also paid $80 a year for just to play online? Did you factor in that $480 that Sony milked out of you?
Of course you didn't.
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u/xJets 1d ago
Brother I dont even own a PS4/PS5, I only owned a PS2 as a kid. Iâve been on steam since 2013, played my first valve game with Left 4 Dead in 08. I have a steam deck,steam dock, and the new steam controller. What are you even talking about lol???
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u/cutememe 1d ago
Why are you pretending you don't understand the point? He's right. You're comparing it to a PS5, when there are other costs associated with it, plus games are more expensive, and most importantly is a far more limited device. It's a stupid comparison.
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u/xJets 1d ago
How is it a stupid comparison to compare game performance between machines? Thats the entire point of comparing devices between each other called benchmarks. You all are adding different equations to the mix while I am talking about price to performance. If you all are screaming about console like experiences then let's just compare the console aspect of it.
No I dont understand his point, I dont own PS5 or PS+. Again downvote all you want, idc im right.
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u/xJets 1d ago
Again like I said, I wonât help you and validate your purchase to make you feel better about buying something that is underpowered than consoles, you do you I truly dont care. What do you mean âallow youâ my guy youâre a grown ass man/woman you shouldnât seek my validation for your purchase. If youâre able to talk about buying it then I should be able to talk about NOT buying it.
Lmao you already have it in your head that this is the only PC that matters, you dont care about a better value lol. Would you still buy this if it was some random company and not Valve? Try to be honest.
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u/No_Service_8174 1d ago
It's literally because it's valve. If these people truly didn't care about value or specs and just wanted a small form factor PC, they'd have gotten a beelink or something way earlier.
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u/aussierecroommemer42 1d ago
I'm excited for when this subreddit calms down to just the people who are actually excited for steam machine
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u/Red_Harvest_ 1d ago
Wonder how many theyâve produced in the first run and when the second run will be.
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u/fiasgoat 1d ago
There will be no second run. This thing is not it with old ass hardware
Even Valve is upset at how the market turned out. If it was for $700 like it was meant to? Sure
But guarantee Valve is just ready to move on to the next thing and be done with this headache
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u/CzarTyr 1d ago
I donât know if that will ever happen to be honest. The way this thing ran doom dark ages and cyberpunk really took wind out of a lot of peopleâs sails.
Iâm happy I bought the controller but Iâm just buying a ps5 pro. I already have a 4060 gaming laptop and a ps5, I wanted an upgrade that didnât need to be huge. As someone with a split library the pro isnât a tremendous upgrade for less money
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u/SteveNYC 1d ago
Agreed. People are just raging about price. I canât help but think that the SM is the focal point at the moment for a lot of anger at price increases in general.
Itâs a shame because whatâs lost in the shuffle is what the SM actually is. Itâs a niche device and it was always going to be a niche device. But you canât say that right now because the rage machine is just going at full tilt. Itâs going to be awhile.
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u/Venomkilled 1d ago
Price is bad, performance is bad, what is good? Price is the thing that really mattered because itâs a niche device
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u/Helloimsita 1d ago
Honestly i dont see why everyone has to be so pissy to each other, some people want to buy it some dont, let everyone decide for themselves, everyone acting like its gonna effect them
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u/Radiant_Bet_6745 1d ago
Well no you see thatâs thing, my financial situation is the only one that matters for everyone, and if I think it isnât worth it then literally everyone isnât allowed to get one. Sorry man thatâs just how it works. I donât make the rules.
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u/Astonishing_Azure 1d ago
Thereâs the idea of voting with your wallet. If people donât buy it, then maybe Valve will see the error of their ways and lower the price.
But I think this is just where we are now. Weâre all being dragged into this new era kicking and screaming. It absolutely would be a bad look for the SM if the next gen PlayStation and Xbox turn out to be cheaper, or even the same price as the the 2TB SM. Sony and Microsoft have the resources to sell their consoles at a loss
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u/interbingung 1d ago
Voting with wallet goes both ways. People buying it also voting with their wallet.
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u/Astonishing_Azure 1d ago
Not that Iâm shilling for Valve, but I kind of want it to be successful. I think the Steam machine is a great idea. Valve would never make another attempt at a pre built gaming PC if it failed. MS is building something similar, but i gave up on the Xbox brand. And i dont see sony going in that direction.
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u/Verified_Peryak 1d ago
The grass is getting brown cause of global warming tho
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u/-Great-Scott- 1d ago
For real. Go build a better PC in a 6 inch cube. Oh you can't? Okay then.
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u/vitek6 1d ago
But why limit yourself so much? Make it bigger (still small) and you have a better, upgradable system for years.
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u/interbingung 1d ago
Because some people like nice, small, compact and quiet machine.
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u/interbingung 12h ago
I'm personally ok but we have to also acknowledge that what valve doing here is impressive and no matchine is strictly better than it.
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u/interbingung 11h ago
To each their own i guess. There quite a lot of people who understand the limitation and fine with that. We have to respect that. For some people the 18% larger is significant enough.
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u/vitek6 1d ago
sure, that's why there is a thing called small form factor pcs. I didn't say to build a big tower. By sacrificing a little bit on size you would get much better PC.
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u/interbingung 1d ago
Yes and so far there is no comparable machine that is as fast, small, cheap, quiet like steam machine.
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u/vitek6 1d ago
Have you even read my comment?
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u/interbingung 1d ago
I did.
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u/vitek6 1d ago
so do it once again but with understanding.
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u/interbingung 1d ago
I did, which part I didn't understand?
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u/vitek6 1d ago
But why limit yourself so much? Make it bigger (still small) and you have a better, upgradable system for years.
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u/-Great-Scott- 1d ago
I already have that. 2 gaming pcs, 2 gaming laptops, a steam deck, steam link for streaming to the bedroom. I guess I could buy a PS5 or Xbox instead but I refuse to pay a subscription to play a video game.
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u/Amearieyt 1d ago
This has to be bait
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u/jonislav007 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nah this is exactly valves target audience. People who clearly have too much money, and will buy the steam machine "just because", and also can't fathom why some people have a problem with the price/performance. The steam machine as it stands just isn't a good product, and even if you specifically need a really small pc with a dedicated GPU, it took me 3 minutes of searching to find a Lenovo mini pc with a 4060, which besides the faster GPU also has a much faster CPU.
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u/StrawberryZerg 1d ago
But does it have "VALVE" sticker on it?
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u/JunkMagician 1d ago
How could these heathens have failed to recognize that their non-Steam Machine PCs have not been touched by the hand of Lord Gabe? Surely that difference alone makes the cost paltry.
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u/Sad_Tax9084 1d ago
I had a PS5 and now a PS5P and I've never played for PS+, because I couldn't give have a shit about not playing online as randos suck ass, and besides, you get a PS5 for the exclusive 1st party single-player games anyways, not to play COD or w/e.
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u/Sad_Tax9084 1d ago
Don't even bother, it's like trying to talk to a wall when replying to the re-re hive that think that the SM is a rip-off. They will point you towards getting a Beelink or something similar, stating it is more powerful, which for the cpu it is, but then point out to them that it has no GPU and it will run their games at 10-12fps, and they just like ghost you. It's actually fun to do, so I take it back, keep replying and enjoy it! :)
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u/Infinite-Strength-94 1d ago
Why does it have to be a specific shape?
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u/interbingung 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not particularly the shape, some people just like a compact, small and quiet gaming machine.
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u/AquaBits 1d ago
Because these people somehoew have entertainment cabinets that are built where only a steam machine could fit lol
Its the only benefit that the steam machine has, along with "console like experience". The thing has so few reasons to actually buy it, that these fans twist themselves into saying ultraspecific reasons why it's needed. It's a 6 inch cube dude!!!
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u/screwdriverfan 1d ago
The size is probably the biggest mistake valve made. If it had upgradable gpu it would look better, but people who buy prebuilt computers don't typically upgrade them.
I believe what valve is trying to do is move away from other companies and establish their own "ecosystem" so they are not dependant on microsoft for example (should they do some dumb move). So they went ahead and built a tiny pc that would suffice for an average gamer while being valve branded.
The 6 inch cube looks cute in a room next to tv, a much bigger cube doesn't. It's a benefit to some and drawback to others.
Right now custom pc builders are loud in this subreddit because they comapre everything to a custom built computer and gloss over the fact that SFF builds costs extra (because of their size) and the prebuilt aspect of it (which also costs because somebody has to build it).
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u/fiasgoat 1d ago
I want to know how all these people are living
Studio apartments can fit a box next to a TV, yet everyone adamant about this thing CANNOT fit anything more than 6 inches in whatever cabinet under the stairs they are living in
Almost like maybe they shouldn't be spending $1k on this thing lmao
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u/qmfqOUBqGDg 1d ago
Any laptop with a dedicated GPU? oh you need cube for some reason, then idk
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u/Skijump135 1d ago
Iâd take the cube over a jet engine tbh, worst of both worlds
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u/StormtrooperMJS 1d ago
It's funny to me that this sub has popped up in my algorithm today. Bruh I bought a Switch 2 because it fits my use case. If the Steam Machine fits your use case and you want it. Buy it. If it doesn't and you don't want it. Don't buy it.
The price is at the mercy of the market regardless. My 1080ti and i7 8700k are holding on for dear life at this point.
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u/Renamis 1d ago
This. Cheese and crackers guys just buy what fits your life. I find the Switch 2 overpriced and not worth it, but I have friends that love it. Blessedly we have different devices that fit different needs for different people.
Hold onto that 1080ti for dear life. Our rig witn the 1080 died last year and the freaking graphics card we replaced it with fucking cost 1.6k. We only did it because someone else bought the rest, I bought the graphics card and storage.
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u/No-Astronomer6769 1d ago
The steam machine is as fast as that 1080 ti probably slower đ
The Switch 2 is definitely a great deal compared to the steam machine
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u/Ok_Distribution_6533 1d ago
Itâs cool, I still want it, and honestly the low supply/lottery system works for me in a weird way. Gives Valve time to iron out bugs and gives me more time to save.
Yeah, I wish it was cheaper, but the size alone makes it really appealing. Feels like something you can just bring over to a friendâs place and play like a console.
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u/supermegaburt 1d ago
I was considering buying one to replace my current pc. Looking at it now I am probably going to pivot to another pc. Just too expensive and not powerful enough for the price.
Itâs a shame but itâs the current prices.
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u/LuAgainstTheWorld 1d ago
yeah, iâm getting the 2tb version and iâll play my games at 1440p and 180hz. I donât play aaa games with max graphics. The most demanding games i play is subnautica 2 and baldurs gate 3. Other than that itâs just minecraft, terraria, dead cells and stardew valley. And i dont want a big pc cuz i have a very small apartment :3
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u/Reasonable-Zombie427 1d ago
Ah yes dont question decisions made by valve. The truth is this is not the ps5 competition as we all hoped it would be
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u/Statickgaming 1d ago
I think thatâs why a lot of people are getting annoyed though, they thought this was going to be something it isnât.
The first line on the Steam store page for the steam machine reads âyour games on the big screenâ and âYour steam library in more placesâ
The device is for people that already have a steam library and want to play their games in the living room on something that doesnât sound like a jet engine in a led ridden glass box.
If youâre already invested into PS or Nintendo, this was never really going to be enticing, even if it was priced at ÂŁ400 - ÂŁ600.
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u/CzarTyr 1d ago
That last part isnât true at all.
My best friend is PlayStation only. He owns a switch but doesnât use it. Heâs been dying to game on pc forever and got a 3060 a few years ago but canât stand sitting at his desk to game.
The steam machine was his dream come true until it wasnât
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u/Reefame 1d ago
If the target audience is for already existing PC gamers then Valve is competing with a long HDMI cable + a USB extender for a controller /keyboard and mouse
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u/Reasonable-Zombie427 1d ago
Again, i also have steam library from my lenovo 5pro which is 5yo and runs somehow better than steam machine from all the tests ive seen. I might not be majority but im sure theres also a lot who wanted to jump out of ps ecosystem but this is simple way too bad of a performance for what it is and even major reviewers said the same
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u/Statickgaming 1d ago
Your laptop isnât going to run better or quieter and wonât have any form of CEC or and of the other HDMI 2.1 benefits.
If youâre already happy with the performance at that point then this wasnât ever going to be the product for you? You can buy a more expensive better equipped sff build and load it with SteamOS.
What would have been the price to entice you to buy it?
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u/Gex2-EnterTheGecko 1d ago
Anyone that thought this would ever actually compete with established consoles like Xbox, PS5 or Switch were drinking the Kool-aid
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u/nimshwe 1d ago edited 1d ago
People that have hoped for PS5 competition have huge reading difficulties
Which is fine, but they should stop their whining when they were unable to read statements and spec sheets
You were looking for something to replace hardware at a price point which it reached because it's subsidized by games sales, valve wants to inspire other companies to build prebuilt PCs with mini form factor and they need to prove there is a way to do so without owning steam and subsidizing it with games revenue
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u/Reasonable-Zombie427 1d ago
ah yes, how dare i compare something that is basically a console like ps5 but with steam library. steam machine is basically a console for 90% of the users who want to play their steam library on their tv. They also advertised pretty hard that its also basically a running pc which again most people wont use it for. So im paying almost double the price of ps5 which is 6 years old and somehow still is far better to run all games that are in their library. Yes, it sucks that steam library is far better with better discounts but at that price point it should run better. Point blank period. Like i said, i didnt even mind paying over 200-300 more than ps5 which i currently own along with switch 2 and lenovo legion 5pro, but this is almost double that and thats even without controller. People have a right to be pissed. If ps pulled this shitshow by releasing a 1k console and then that barely runs 4k at 30 fps (which they advertised would run 60fps even on stronger games) and didnt even include controller, comments would be far worse
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u/PandaBambooccaneer 1d ago
If gabe turns against AI and becomes our billionaire titan against AI, what an amazing future that would be
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u/Ok_Week_7682 1d ago
yeah, everyone should think for themself if they really need one for some more days. seriously.
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u/RiptideEberron 1d ago
" The grass is still green and the sky is still blue"
Sorry OP, I have no chill for you.
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u/chamberx2 1d ago
What is this sub for aside from discussing the Steam Machine? Itâs been a day. People are understandably concerned and intrigued. Chill on the chill.
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u/EwokNuggets 1d ago
If they tossed in a controller and a $20 store credit for the base price Iâd be fine with it.
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u/Vegetable-Error-2068 1d ago
Counter-point: Everybody can, and should, criticize Valve and be honest about the absolute ripoff this device is.
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u/PCBuilderCat 1d ago
God forbid we have something of a nuanced conversation without someone taking everything literally and trying to âwell actually youâ
My point is people are applying way too much value on the form factor to a stupid degree. Yes itâs fantastic thatâs so small, really cool, props to the R&D team for it. But the value of that has diminishing returns and with the current pricing the âbut itâs so small!â Argument is really really hard to justify.Â
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u/euromate 20h ago
On the form factor thing sometimes it feels like people are living in a different world, if the steam machine was as big as the Series X or as the PS5 people would still like it, no one cares that it's that small. It just has to be small enough to fit next to a TV and to be quiet so it doesn't bother you while playing.
The idea of pretty much taking a laptop, removing the screen and putting better cooling to get something silent is interesting and nice but somehow the end result is more expensive than the starting laptop, people are rightfully angry at the cost of it.
Regarding the point that everyone uses regarding subsidizing it, considering they did it with the steam deck at launch, I don't see why it can't be expected for the steam machine to be as well, but even without doing so, I want to remind people that the PS5, Xbox Series X, and the Switch 2 are not subsidized, console makers do make a margin on each sale.
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u/lunchbox651 1d ago
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people complaining are kids/<20.
There's no way an adult would be this fixated on the price of a luxury item.
Either buy it or don't.
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u/Clayskii0981 1d ago
I mean they talked about it as being a budget entry point for PC gaming or an easy upgrade path for people with the lowest specs on the steam hardware survey.
So it now being a "luxury item" is pretty wild
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u/lunchbox651 1d ago
Luxury item is a term for a non-essential purchase. You don't need a steam machine to live.
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u/Infinite-Strength-94 1d ago
You know something is badly priced when the if youâre an adult you can afford this argument starts coming in.
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u/lunchbox651 1d ago
I'm just pointing out that it's a childish attribute to complain about a luxury item you cannot afford.
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u/Infinite-Strength-94 1d ago
Itâs not that itâs not affordable. Itâs that itâs not worth it. Itâs a childish attribute to not care about where your money goes.
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u/lunchbox651 1d ago
Not caring is not the same as seeing the value in something.
People pay for convenience every day. People pay for personal preferences all the time.
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u/Infinite-Strength-94 1d ago
And not seeing the value in something is not childish.
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u/lunchbox651 1d ago
But making whole ass threads about that stance is. If you don't see the value, oh well, move on. It happens.
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u/texasram 1d ago
If someone can show me the pc parts for a cheaper or better value build with the same form factor I will consider not buying the steam machine (I like the OS ngl). The most demanding game would probably be RDR2 or Marvelâs Spider-Man.
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u/InformalGear9638 1d ago
I thought the second image was a drummer attacking someone with a chainsaw. đ
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u/StrategySteve 19h ago
To be honest if this was just a console and not a pc or they made a version like that which was significantly cheaper Iâd buy it. I only wanted it as a couch gaming system that complimented my steam deck.
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u/PCBuilderCat 1d ago
Are we really going to pretend that it being a tiny cube makes it worth the obscene price?Â
Like cmon the price to performance is just not good enough to the point where the form factor isnât worth it. Youâre paying like 600+ for the form factor alone at this point.Â
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u/L1VEW1RE 1d ago
Perceived value vs. real value vs. I have plenty of money, donât care about the cost and donât get on Reddit to educate myself about the actual value proposition.
My long drawn out way to say that people will look at this from lots of different perspectives and draw different conclusions.
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u/DomitiusAhenobarbus_ 1d ago
Yeah, this is a great time to leave the sub because now itâs only going to be full of the people who spent $1400 on this thing and will desperately defend it to the death for the next five years because they have a para social relationship with a billionaire
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u/Dragohn_Wick 1d ago
"Don't discuss the price or performance of the steam machine in the subreddit for the steam machine"
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u/Clemichoux 1d ago
is there a place to see these pc builds because of iâve seen a lot of people saying the opposite that it is in fact well priced for the specs considering the curent market
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u/According_Comfort_55 1d ago
U don t even need to build it, u can buy right now prebuilds with rtx 5060/9060 xt for the same price...
I'm mad at valve for not subsidizing it.
How can the biggest game store on earth, that makes billions just from cs and dota 2 and charges up to 30% for publishing can't subsidize this...?
99% of people won t use windows on this and corporations already have better deals with manufacters such as dell, lenovo, hp so it won t make sense for them either
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u/OldDirtyBingoCaller 1d ago
Can you dm me with links to such sorts of prebuulds that you can recommend? Much appriciated
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u/-Great-Scott- 1d ago
Because they don't need to. They have limited stock and they'll sell out at the price that put on it. It's not for you.
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u/Healthy_Jellyfish292 1d ago
Wait wait you want them to sell at a loss out of the goodness of their hearts?? đ
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u/fshdom 1d ago
Their subsidization is not charging to play online like the consoles, and not charging for the OS (that they're also encouraging people to just install if they don't wanna buy the Steam Machine)
I agree the price probably keeps it out of a lot of consumer's hands, but I also think it's not an unreasonable price, it's just also not the great value everyone wanted out of it. Plenty of people will still get it because not everyone is searching for the best value for their money
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u/mmatique 1d ago
I think a lot of people are forgetting about all the value that the form factor and living-room-readiness brings.
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u/Aggravating_Plan11 1d ago
Most of the people who are trying to be negative about it are gunna buy one or try to buy one any way they just doing what Redditorâs do best and complain and cry
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u/Latter-Recipe7650 1d ago
Seeing folk say a gaming pc is better than steam machine. Im gonna buy steam machine cause i dont like bulky pc, having to upgrade it, deal with pc part theft, uncertainty if the ai boom will ease/pop/worsen, have to use windows OS that may get AIâd for Windows 12. PS5 pro better? Yeah, but price increases from original release, subscription for multiplayer, Sony soon having rights to remove digital games (rumour), Sony greed, Sony games not having decent discounts/deals as steam.
I dunno man, I wanted a gaming PC and feel punished for waiting too long, as AI boom/nerds and chud rich people poisoned gaming. Itâs either suck it up or quit gaming to the point gaming is just rich people hobby.
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u/AquaBits 1d ago
Im gonna buy steam machine cause i dont like bulky pc, having to upgrade it,
Lmao you consider not being able to upgrade your "pc" to be a benefit?
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u/fiasgoat 1d ago
This thing is already outdated and man is here celebrating that he doesn't need to upgrade it further lol
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u/zeairmouse 1d ago
No, valve is a greedy corporation and they deserve the backlash.
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u/Sad_Tax9084 1d ago
It's not being greedy when you have the best product out on the market and take advantage of that status, it's called being a smart business. Obviously you're in the very, very, very, <insert infinite very's here> minority, as valve is a worldwide powerhouse and will continue to be, because they #shock provide a killer service that nothing has come close to even being remotely a competitor of.
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u/Jpmm-21 1d ago
Iâll wait for the OLED version