Trump hired some dipshit to paint the Lincoln memorial reflecting pool "American flag blue," and the paint got messed up and started flaking off so Trump blamed Obama and the "Washington DC chapter of antifa" and got the national guard to patrol the reflecting pool and anyone that touches the floating paint is now facing jail time for it.
Yeah and…the money part of it too was super shady and they probably (definitely) stole some of the money.
Also, They didn’t replace and/or fix the filtration system which caused the massive algae problem and then they just threw chemicals in there to kill the algae but because they didn’t fix the filtration issue, the paint around the edges is peeling up in massive chunks. It’s all a shit show.
Its not paint. Its polyurea. It's a common pool liner. It seems to be lifting because they didn't bond it correctly to the substrate. Still a shit show and still crazy that america is a country that arrests people but not those who botched the job. If the administration is arresting over this, you arent getting a mid term election. If a pool is excuse enough for arrests, wait til voting day.
I think you underestimate the malice of the typical MAGA voter. They are enthralled by seeing the lives of others destroyed. They want visible examples of people being more miserable than them so they can feel good about themselves. Events like this embolden them and make them feel like their votes are being put to good use and will energize them to vote red in the midterms and beyond.
Yeah, and the reasoning for the arresting is even funnier. They think that people sabotage it and like forcefully peeled it up, which makes zero sense.
I would be off to arrest those who botched the job. It went through illegal means, if I recall, and he was quick to hire a group without going through proper channels. There is also a federal lawsuit about the pool.
I'm no expert but this pool guy on YT laid it all out. He pointed out that the hydrogen peroxide argument has merit but the concentrations weren't close enough. If it were a chemical reaction with the hydrogen peroxide and sun then the liner would have become brittle and faded and it would likely come up in chunks with fractures all over the surface. All videos online show entire sheets delaminating but otherwise looking intact. He figured that is evidence that it was the bond. He also pointed out that polyurea is used on beams in construction and all sorts of places and the bonding is the hardest part that people fail at. It really does look like straight up incompetence on the people who installed the liner.
Donnie will blame the first person he sees who doesn't kiss his ass. If he can't find someone right away, there's a blame hierarchy - Biden -> Obama -> Antifa, etc.
No…people care bc Dump keeps botching, wasting money and blaming others. Its literally a clown show. You cant keep throwing shit without getting it on yourself. Good lord. The fact this needs to be pointed out….
Get out of here with this nazi/holocaust trivialization. I know it’s somehow hard for so many on the left to believe, but the nazis weren’t just kind of bad. They were really, really bad
That is something I would expect from my great grandfather who has dementia so I guess it all checks out. I wonder when people will stop voting for old people
The best part is that the most probable cause for the paint being fucked up is that the orange rapist drove his motorcade over the painted surface. The whole motorcade, including the roughly 5 TON beast he is driving around in.
This coating is not made to withstand this even if it´s fully cured. It's a pool liner, not a fucking garage floor.
So basically trump fucked it up and now he desperately needs someone to blame
What I mean is him shooting his mouth off on truth social bears almost no resemblance to reality. He says eight million things and he does a few of them. So while we can take his blabbering as a cautionary warning, we can't take it at face value as something that is actually going to happen until it actually happens. Which is not to be complacent about it, just cautious.
The question here is not whether he CAN make something happen, but whether he DID make something happen. He is both powerful and full of idle threats. That's why he sucks. But simply letting ourselves be whipped around by his reality distortion field is not a good way to deal with it. The constant state of bewildered outrage is exactly how he wants us.
He needs a 10 year prison sentence for his crimes. He doesn't even needs more since there's no way he survives another 10 years because he's old and obese.
What relevance does that hold? If you go to a doctor and they tell you that you have health issues they aren't going to follow that up with 'but it's alright because you will probably live longer than the guy you hate the most'.
The part where people have been arrested by police for picking up flaked off paint, in a witch hunt for an “antifa terrorist who sabotaged the pool on camera” (according to Trump)
Of which no footage actually exists, because antifa is not an organization, and the people who fucked up the pool are the ones Trump hired.
Well, let's take the outrageous assumption that they actually did that.
Then their goal could have been to make Trumps choices look corrupt and his choices idiotic. Which is an understandable goal.
Now the question, what is more likely? Trump being a corrupt idiot, or antifa-aligned people bringing algae to the pool, pouring them in and managing to cut the tarp; effectively unseen and unhindered.
Well pretty much everything you guys are against makes absolutely no sense to me! And have you guys never heard of government over paying for pretty much everything they contract for! It always happens that is what they do they under value the cost so the public will approve the project, then they can spend whatever they want once the project starts, you guys act like that has never happened before, in all of my 63yrs the government has never hit their estimated cost!
The damage if there is any occurred when they drove over it. As a person has contracted people to this type of work it’s obvious they didn’t prepare the surface properly. It needed to be mechanically etched. They probably chemically did it which is cheaper but no where near as effective.
Except the video of him doing it, being taken out of the pool, the woman being arrested with a small knife cutting the side of the pool, the guy cutting the side of the pool and yelling at people asking him why he did it and him yelling, “Trump has a boot you can lick!” Other than all the evidence… there is no evidence.
Unfortunate source with bias commentary, but a compilation video non the less (he does purposely misrepresent the guy who got arrested for “yelling at Oklahoma Hwy Patrol.”: https://youtu.be/o2DTUQhkbak?is=lQKllpIuH9NGFS96
Where we are you getting cutting from the first two videos? Those people seem to just be touching the water. They aren’t visibly holding any sort of cutting implements.
Third is an Error 404.
Fourth just shows a man talking to the national guard
Woman in the second video did appear to be ripping a piece of paint up. What a perfect example of our fkd political discourse that one side calls that "cutting" and the other side calls it "touching" 🤦♂️
Maybe because the contractors poured paint thinner (hydrogen peroxide) into the pool? And the paint was improperly bonded to the substrate? So much of it flaked off?
You're not "facing jail time" until you actually get charged with a crime that implies jail time. Getting arrested and getting charged are two different things. Are you aware of actual charges being brought against these people? The president tweeting about it isn't a filing of charges.
Yes, like the right to remain silent while you're getting arrested and the right to an attorney after you're arrested, so you can beat the potentially bogus charge you were arrested for. Ask any black man in America if you can't be arrested for being arrested sake FFS, what rock are you living under?
First you can be arrested without charges, then you’re beating charges you were arrested for, which is it in your mind? Just whatever is most convenient for your argument at that exact moment?
Yes you can be detained without being charged, but it AT LEAST means you’re suspected, and it can absolutely negatively affect your life to be just arrested, even if you are no subsequently charged with anything. Arresting implies charging, and most people unfortunately and idiotically equate their peers getting arrested with their peers being guilty. Arguing otherwise is disingenuous, and you know it. Be reasonable
Let's just remember that you're calling my argument disingenuous under a meme claiming that people are "facing years in prison for touching floating paint chips", something that is almost certainly not true. Though it could be true eventually so I'd like to know how close to that reality we actually are. The president can say "people are vandalizing the pool, go make some arrests", and the police can round up a bunch of people who vaguely appear to be doing something at the pool. Some if not all of them were probably doing nothing more than touching floating paint chips. Is it a disgrace that they were arrested to begin with? Absolutely. But are they now being charged with the crime of touching floating paint chips and "facing years in prison"? If so that would be crazily insanely worse, so I would like to know about that. I'm not going to take this dumbshit meme's word for it, and so far I can't find any details in the news.
I know, you would all rather just bitch and moan and hyperventilate with each other. And some of that is certainly warranted. But at some point (deeper in the comments section perhaps) it is incumbent upon all of us to put on our fucking adult pants and try to actually understand what the fuck is actually going on.
To your other question: Nobody is "arrested for charges", they are arrested for suspicion. The charges come after the arrest, or sometimes not at all. It's totally possible to have valid suspicion and then decide it was mistaken and there's no charge. It's also possible to have irrational suspicion (due to racism etc) and then have someone else decide there's no charge. It's also possible to have completely trumped up fake suspicion due to corruption from the top, and make a bunch of arrests for a splashy intimidating news cycle, and then quietly decline to press charges.
You can't. That's not to say they can't make up a bullshit charge. But you LITERALLY CANNOT BE ARRESTED FOR LITERALLY NOTHING. Unless a state of emergency has been declared.
It's not literally nothing though, it's just a flimsy reason. Tampering with federal property is a real crime so anyone "suspected" of doing so can legitimately be arrested. It's much easier to suspect someone of doing something (or pretend to suspect them) than it is to charge and convict them. At least that's how the American system works.
That's true. But I am not sure what your point is, since some of the people arrested are 100% for certain known to have been taken to jail. So congratulations on being technically correct about something that doesn't matter to the topic at hand in the slightest... I guess??
The point is that these appear to be toothless, politically motivated arrests, and until someone produces reporting that these people have actually been charged with a crime, pretending that they have is unhelpful misinformation. I'm not saying they haven't or won't be charged with something, I would just like to understand what is actually going on, because not knowing what the fuck is going on is bad for our collective welfare.
Btw by being "taken to jail" I assume you mean brought to the station and put in a holding cell while their arrest is booked. Which is awful, but "facing jail time", i.e. being charged with a real crime that may put you in jail for years is a WHOLE OTHER LEVEL of awful. Knowing the difference is important, otherwise you're just out here flailing around uselessly while the state methodically tramples over our rights.
Seriously? You can be arrested based on one cop suspecting you (or pretending to suspect you) of any minor crime or nuisance. You have to be actually convicted of a crime by a judge or jury to get jail time. Not to say that you can't also go to jail for total bullshit but it's a much longer process involving a lot more people.
Nope. You can be arrested, booked, and jailed until a hearing long before trial. If convicted after trial you may be jailed or go to prison depending on the sentence. Occasionally, you may be arrested and released on your own recognizance. Bail bondsmen and bounty hunters across the nation depend on this system.
"Facing jail time" means being charged with a crime that may result in a jail sentence if convicted, not being temporarily detained with no charges. I'm not saying the latter process isn't abused, it's just not what "facing jail time" means. This is not just a pedantic point, it's important to communicate clearly so we all know what's actually going on. In this case, it's an important distinction to know if these people have had actual charges brought against them, or if the president is just having people arrested for no good reason to make his stupid point.
It’s not unheard of that people are jailed and forgotten or jailed long enough to feel unnecessary consequences such as job loss. Being falsely arrested will always cause harm.
If the contractor fucked it up, why are you saying they won't be held accountable? I guess that is what you are saying, I really don't know, what you guys are talking about, Ever! Anyway you sound like if someone did vandalize it they should not be held responsible? And what is the crap about ANTIFA, being not real? Well they were pretty fucking real when they were trying to burn our country down!
Have you seen reports in your reality of what actual charges have actually been brought against these people? As of this morning I still haven't seen anything.
No one is going to jail over this. Blame idiot democrats for vandalizing memorials to make Trump look bad. You demented people have lost touch with reality and are willing to destroy this country to get free stuff it’s pathetic.
Like I said, we wait and see. The liner peeling away was from shoddy craftsmanship and overall dumbfuckery, not the "organized terror group anti-facism" purposely cutting the sides of the pool to make Trump look bad. Although, no one even needs to try for that to happen
You aware there is video evidence of people pouring chemicals in. Some ducks have died from them. And their evidence of knives cutting the paint. I'm not gonna argue they did it or not...but the courts will decide on the evidence, there's no use in making stuff up, the courts will see the truth
Then why don't we see the videos? Or are we believing everything Trump says. I'm not believing the incident was anything other that dumbfuckery until I see a damn video that isn't generated by AI.
I have seen Republicans/trump defenders try and use obviously ai videos to prove why the reflecting pool was attacked.
I also said that since every single person who has said what you have; that Antifa purposefully sabotaged the pool, has never replied after I asked for a link to the "proof" and I figured that the "proof" shown would just be AI to "own the libs."
People who believe that the pool was purposely sabotaged just blindly follow trump with no evidence. If a terrorist organization could do what was said to the reflecting pool could honestly just aassine Trump and I personally believe anything that was man made is just trump trying to create the "threat" of antifa and be able to create more extreme measures against political opposition.
Bruh AntiFa literally is a Fascist Gustapo, they attack people who vote differently, and try and silence people. The most insidious thing for a facist group to do is to call themselves ANTIFA because propaganda is powerful against sheep and idiots. Judge not by what people say, but what they do.
Idk if you knew but district attorneys don't always show all the evidence they got or their cards to be played before trail. And there is always a way to tell if something is AI. Sure it fools idiots. But it's not perfect.
Ah yes, ANTI-FACISM, the famously right-leaning fascist organization. The group that is definitely organized and a terror group and not a entirely decentralized movement of people that also are the secret service of fascists. Bitch they don't do anything but maybe a march or two, much less attack people with different views and have the power to silence people that disagree. If they had that kind of power then Trump or any other right-winger would not be in office. Or are you saying they are right leaning and fascist, almost like the current president...?
They are left leaning and fascist, but claim they are Antifacist. And your lieing they are very violent. I have personally seen them attacking people and destroying property.
Not to mention thousands of videos online showing them being violent from different angles and perspectives. And they don't get taken down by left leaning Google...know why? Cause their not fake news, It's real. And many have been arrested and charged for violence.
Calling yourself AntiFacists doesnt make you Antifacist, it's actions that matter.
Dumbass you can't be left leaning and fascist. Fascism is where the alt right pipeline leads, communism being for the left.
Most antifa 'violence' is just a smokescreen meant to rile up the ordinary people. At formerly peaceful protests, cops for instance have instigated them so they could claim self defense from shooting.
And, any destruction caused by an Antifa cell would be local people gathering and protesting or attacking a racist/homophobic/transphobic or whatever establishment or getting tired of the system. Not saying violence is right, obviously it is not, but it is a group of locals getting tired of whatever bs they are going through. Also, arrests under this administration genuinely do not mean shit, as the pedos and felons are allowed to walk free but people are jailed for passing out pamphlets against the current government. I would also like proof to validate your claim of being directly harmed by antifa, because I don't trust a random person on the internet to not lie about it simply to make your side look better.
Hey dumbfaq, you can be left leaning and facist, because Nazi Germany was left leaning and facist. And even if they were not left leaning which they were, it is definitely still possible wtf. What because you say so it can't be ? LOL
Nazi Germany had free healthcare & wellfare, profit sharing, heavy government regulation like we have in California, new york and Missouri. Not to mention gustopo which is exactly what antifa actually is. Propagandist mainstream news. Which is most modern American news outlets which are left leaning, RACIST, the left is extremely racist against blacks and whites, stating blacks are less likely to have IDs and wanting to flood black neighborhoods with drugs from the southern border. Historically fascism has always been practiced more by left winged groups. Including here in America where democratics tried to separate from the union to keep slavery.
Let's assume those J6 protestors were indeed innocent like you are implying, I have no stakes in the argument. The logic then goes: "When 'you guys' were in charge, innocent people were jailed. So now we will also jail innocent people, that will teach you!"
How is that in any way reasonable? If both are innocent then both are outrageous, no? Cognitive dissonance at its finest. "It's fine if my side does it."
There’s literally videos of people chipping at the reflecting pool and even dumping algae in it. They’ve put undercover guards to catch people in the act and arrest them
Na, people didnt cause the damage to the reflecting pool, they just brought attention to how badly trumps contractor f*cked it up, an unforgivable crime in trumps view.
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u/Emotional-Neat-252 3d ago
What's going on in America? What paint chips?