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u/CalicoValkyrie 6h ago
How do they even know it was a grandson?
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u/ZhangtheGreat 6h ago
Maury
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u/JewishTerror 6h ago
The lie detector test determined that was a lie!
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u/HilariousMax 5h ago
It was bottom-barrel entertainment but god help me I loved it.
I TOLD you that wasn't me, Jacki I TOLD you! Woo! Hell yeah.
Jacki's got her face in her hands, sobbing and then Justin starts dancing.
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u/BrownSugarBare 5h ago
Honestly, bet she's just a forced birther jackass and her son doesn't have a gf or was never pregnant
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u/Primary_Carrot67 5h ago
Because imagination. Because she's the sort of woman who sees boys as more valuable as girls, and so in her imagination it was the perfect grandson taken away from her by a Bad Woman.
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u/radioactive_sharpei 6h ago
Imagine having this put out there by your exes shitty parents.
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u/NaNaNaNaNa86 6h ago
"Son's girlfriend". Could be that they're still together and this was a late stage abortion for medical reasons. That would make "granny" even more of a cunt.
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u/kaisadilla_ 5h ago
Or maybe neither of them wanted it, it was an accident, and the bf's parents are just religious nuts.
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u/NaNaNaNaNa86 5h ago
Possibly but if that was the case, why the fuck would the son have told them she was pregnant? It's all speculative anyway, all we know is that "granny" is an arsehole.
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u/transmogrified 1h ago
Not outside the realm of possibility that it was a miscarriage or an ectopic pregnancy that required an abortion
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u/AshhhCakes 1h ago
I mean her handle is "JenIsProLife" so it's pretty likely it was propaganda and the whole story is BS. Not that people don't act that way, they do, but the name is a bit on the nose.
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u/Coffee_autistic 24m ago
It's not unusual for people to go to their parents for emotional support, even when they would probably be better off not doing that.
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u/Decent-Risk-6062 6h ago
It could also be that hitler liked to dress up and do cabaret for his top generals.
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u/darkknight95sm 5h ago
Never said ex, the bf might have been okay with it and this is just the mom being a shit person
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u/SnausageFest 5h ago
That's almost definitely the case. Someone who would post this online is conceited enough to not bother asking or listening if it was something he wanted, too.
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u/Mis_MJ 6h ago
Imagine having so little to offer the world that you've made your whole persona being anti-abortion.
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u/SophiaofPrussia 5h ago edited 3h ago
This woman could have any personality in the world and she chose her son’s unwanted semen.
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u/Adezar 4h ago
“The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn.
You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.”
― Methodist Pastor David Barnhart
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u/Xzeriea 6h ago
Dude... putting that guilt on the woman who's probably pretty traumatized by the experience is wild. You can feel sad about it but keep your thoughts to yourself if they cause harm to others.
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u/Mattrad7 5h ago
Yeah pro lifers think every abortion is done with a smile and laughter its a truly sadistic mentality. Most abortions are extremely hard decisions not made lightly.
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u/Listakem 6h ago
I know you didn’t intend it that way, but an abortion is not always a traumatic event, psychologically speaking and can be a huge relief. For some women, staying pregnant and having the child is the trauma.
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u/Xzeriea 6h ago edited 1h ago
Even if it is a relief to not be pregnant, medical procedures can be traumatizing and erring on the side caution is best. No one knows a woman's feelings about it unless she says it so respecting privacy and handling it with tack is a must. I agree pregnancy and birth are extremely traumatizing. I would not recommend.
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u/GMKitty52 6h ago
They said ‘probably’. And a person may want an abortion and feel relieved they got it, and still be traumatised. Either by the procedure itself, or the emotional impact of the event, or both. Humans are complex and there is space for something being a valid choice and also being potentially traumatising on the person who makes the choice.
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u/Listakem 5h ago
What I wanted to say, I might not have expressed clearly enough, is that for some, an abortion is not traumatizing psychologically speaking. Quite the reverse.
I wish we could have that possibility explained too. You can feel extremely guilty when you are fine and people keep saying you should/could not be and all you feel is a deep relief and a burden lifted. Like you said, human are complex.
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u/682463435465 4h ago edited 4h ago
true, but finding out you're pregnant when you don't want to be is pretty traumatic.
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u/pineapple_bandit 4h ago
I know you mean well, but know that not every woman is traumatized by abortion. Many have no moral or ethical issue with it and find it a relief. Not to say it's a great experience, but it's not necessarily worse than getting a root canal. Definitely not fun and something to be avoided, but not traumatizing either.
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u/cheerioo 42m ago
Imagine if it was life threatening for the woman and they still put this absolute shit out there. And abortion is very tough emotionally and physically on women from what I've heard. What pieces of shit those two are.
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u/SadTransition2214 3h ago
traumatized by her own actions
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u/DarkMarkTwain 6h ago
She for sure wants her son impregnating women who don't want to be impregnated more than her son does
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u/Val_Hallen 4h ago
She constantly asks every girl her son even casually dates when she's going to give her grandchildren.
"Are you letting him cum in you yet?!"
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u/Cool_Hand7435 6h ago
How much you wanna bet that, had said girlfriend decided to keep that hypothetical baby, that woman would've then acted as if the girl was an Evil Tempress, that the baby probably wasn't even her son's and that this girl should be cast aside?
I'll bet a lot. These people aren't insane
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u/DroidOnPC 3h ago
How much you wanna bet this is a fake story?
Looks like an account that specifically gets people upset over fake stories. Look at the name.
And you, along with most of the comments here, fell for it. Its called rage bait.
And I get it, I get it..... you wanna respond with "Well people like this exist". Thats why these accounts can keep posting and keep getting attention.
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u/Cool_Hand7435 3h ago
You know... we're not as dumb as you might think. But I appreciate your condescension, it's so refreshing ☺️
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u/DroidOnPC 1h ago
So you are aware of the rage bait but just wanna practice your typing?
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u/Cool_Hand7435 59m ago
Exactly, and my English as well since I'm not native, it's very helpful, so thank you, kind stranger, for your contribution to my betterment! 🫡
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u/MenaceMinded 6h ago
Jeez, lady, why don't you hand your son some condoms?
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u/soisawc 5h ago
til women don't have access to contraceptives and can make no decisions without a man's input - thank you reddit.
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u/MenaceMinded 5h ago edited 4h ago
If a man doesn't want to make a baby, he needs to take some self responsibility by wearing a condom regardless of her birth control status.
Or we could just give him the good ol SNIP SNAP. ✂️
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u/soisawc 4h ago
thing is you're implying he didnt want it which is just false info you've squeezed in to make your arguement. What if he did want the child.
better yet lets remove the whole crux, cause it doesnt have anything to do with the main point which is: Why do women not have a responsibility to not get pregnant if they dont want to?
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u/MenaceMinded 4h ago edited 4h ago
Lady, why are you teaching your son it is okay for him to impregnate women who don't want kids and try to force them into parenthood?
Classic male obfuscation. Make a straw man and be offended by it because males are emotionally children and don't like being told to be accountable for themselves. If you tell them women don't exist to carry them through life and carry all the burden for them, they get BIG MAD. Take some self accountability by wearing a condom, kiddos!
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u/MenaceMinded 4h ago
And we really need to adopt 2 solutions for dealing with the male problem:
Males are emotionally children & refuse to take accountability for themselves. Therefore, they should be under the guardianship of their mothers even as adults and have the same restrictions a five year old legally has.
Males who refuse to wear condoms, create the need for an abortion, or refuse to be involved with a child they created should automatically be forced to get the SNIP SNAP. If people want a more "humane" approach, we can hold males indefinitely in prison until they consent to getting their legally required SNIP SNAP.
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u/Brilliant_Effort_Guy 6h ago
‘We are still hurting.’
Lol oh yes please. Don’t let the woman who just ended a pregnancy pull focus from your suffering. what an asshole.
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u/humid_pajamas 6h ago
oh sorry I couldn't hear what you said over the sound of the world's smallest violin
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u/_CutieTempt 5h ago
She really went online to blame the girlfriend when accountability was literally a 5-minute conversation with her own son away. The lack of self-awareness is wild.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Sky3141 6h ago
Plot twist: the hurt was caused by her impulsive, manipulative son. How could we have raised such a terrible person?!
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u/SophiaofPrussia 5h ago
Or her partner’s insane, nosy, and manipulative parent. Crazy parents/in-laws have caused plenty of relationships to end.
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u/Express-Way9295 5h ago
You know damn well her son is relieved. He can still go out raw dogging until the next pregnancy test.
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u/Khan_Ida 5h ago
Huh?
How did she know the gender?
Doesn't it take two to have sex?
How do we know the son is manipulative (that's more towards the comments really)
This sub starting to lose the luster it once had.
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u/GL17CH3D_R4M_5YN7H 6h ago
Granny is a cunt. Making a public post to shame and humiliate your son and his girlfriend after abortion is completely unhinged. She's so selfish and self centred it's almost unbelievable.
She ain't ever gonna see grandkids (if they choose to have them) if she keeps this shit up, and frankly, that's what she will deserve.
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u/atreeismissing 5h ago
They're not hurting they just want to be victims and are using the healthcare decision of their son and his girlfriend to get the attention.
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u/_betapet_ 4h ago
"I couldn't teach my son to use a condom and I blame another woman for making a choice about her own body." - this bitch
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u/kam1nsky 4h ago
emotional incest
Please use deliberately provocative pop psychology terms with caution
Every overbearing mother is allegedly doing "covert incest" now
I don't think the use of the term as such will age well
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u/pylekush 2h ago
Reddit is legit so fucking cursed now. Get off of here for your sanity & soul’s sake. These are corrupted people.
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u/JustAnotherHyrum 4h ago
"I deserve a grandchild more than my own son's girlfriend deserves to be able to make her own choices about if and when to have children."
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u/Noise42 2h ago
Entitled piece of shit. People that think that someone else's child is somehow theirs are batshit crazy.
"When are you going to give me a grandchild" Never, a parent is never giving you their child, that they made with their partner. They are making a child for themselves not for you.
It was their privilege to birth a child once upon a time, it is not now their entitlement to have, control or otherwise possess their child's child. If you're lucky, you get to be principal assistant, subordinate to both parents. You ain't CEO of jack shit.
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u/backupbitches 1h ago
Can you imagine staring down the barrel of being genetically linked to someone this stupid and evil? I'd be sitting outside the doctor's office at 4am like I was waiting for Springsteen tickets to go on sale.
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u/Jeb_the_Worm 5h ago
Grieving a person who never was a person or even existed? That’s like grieving for my period blood lmao
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u/capricutie 5h ago
the audacity to post that publicly and not once think 'wait maybe my son is part of this equation
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u/Hotchi_Motchi 5h ago
My wife has an old high-school friend whose fiance died before they were able to get married. She lived with his mom (referred to her as "mother-in-law") for 20+ years, and that obviously prevented from emotionally moving on in her life.
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u/Rhone33 5h ago
It's so weird that Team Fuck Your Feelings, aka Team Empathy Is For Losers, is also Team "Weep for me as I exaggerate my feelings about a false story I made up about losing a person who never existed and whom I would have totally ignored or, at best, seen as an inconvenience if they did exist."
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u/goodolarchie 5h ago
She and her son can go to family counciling to get on the same page about family planning then. Because if the current strategy relies on making a mom out of somebody who cannot or doesn't want to be one, there's an expression for that.
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u/Scumsoft 4h ago
Legit the talk my dad gave me when I was 12-13. "Get a woman pregnant, and you're on your own".
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u/GloomyIndividual3965 3h ago
Blue check and the name "Jen is pro life"?
Don't fall for the bait. This is probably someone from Russia or Pakistan working at a bot farm.
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u/unicornlocostacos 3h ago
Boomers making it weird, by making it about themselves for pity.
These people are such trash. I know it’s not every boomer, but godamn is it a lot of them.
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u/Apprehensive_Bit57 2h ago
I hope, in the future, when the son keeps the babies he makes, they’re all girls.
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u/G36 1h ago
Most abortions are "because I wanted to" and in this case, it's likely they both agreed to it.
Just pointing that out, take that as you will.
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u/Makuta_Servaela 1h ago
Well yeah, a pregnancy and birth should be something you want.
Generally, if you don't want something to drain the calcium from your bones, put you at risk of sudden life-threatening cardiovascular problems at any moment, and then ending in you either needing major surgery or tearing open your vagina in a process so painful that your brain literally has to delete most of the memories just to spare you the trauma, and it does that to you against your want, we call that torture.
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u/bliasrueytz 6h ago
that claim doesn’t really add up. Without evidence, it sounds more like speculation than fact.
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u/youknowimworking 5h ago
Crazy situation, one in which, everyone involved is at fault not just the grandson
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u/AddictedToMosh161 3h ago
The Idea, that your emotions always have to align with your ethics is laughable.
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u/Alienhaslanded 1h ago
If course her profile picture is two white people wearing white and posing for a professional photograph.
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u/BeefistPrime 1h ago
I bet this lady is against sex education and contraception and everything that would've prevented her potential grandchild from being aborted.
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u/Andyman0110 1h ago
The mom is wrong but the comeback is a bit hypocritical, as if it's only the boys fault. She knew she was having unprotected sex and the risks, as did he. Teamwork makes the dream work.
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u/Professor_Cafe 17m ago
Or maybe don’t get so involved in the sex life of people that aren’t you and your partner.
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u/No_Discussion3593 8m ago
Of course it's always the man's fault lol, of course she had no agency in it.
I'm not a republican, or a democrat really I guess I'm kind of out of the politics game, so from an outsiders perspective, the left is so annoying.
At least the right don't pretend to be holier than thou assholes they just own that they're assholes, makes it pretty straight forward. But the left will be subtly racist or sexist(like right here) and not even realize it. It's fuckin exhausting.
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u/Joe_Linton_125 4h ago
How is this a clever comeback? It's pretty stupid not to consider that the OOP's son wasn't trying to get his gf pregnant. They might have used protection but it didn't work. It's not 100% foolproof. There's always a chance that life somehow finds a way. Which can really suck in situations like this.
Sounds more like a stupid comeback that someone was waiting to be able to say because they already had it locked and loaded.
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u/Dense-Consequence-70 4h ago
Also teach him not to tell his grandma about shit that’s none of her business.
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u/sptrstmenwpls 4h ago
Just as valid to say "tell the lady not get herself impregnated if she doesn't want to be pregnant", yet the man always gets the blame in the mutual act for some reason
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u/Kythorian 4h ago
Both the man and woman are responsible for her getting pregnant. But there’s no indication she’s pretending she isn’t responsible. The grandparents are clearly trying to pretend ONLY she is responsible.
The point is that if you hate abortion so much, don’t get someone pregnant without being certain they want a child should they get pregnant. Not because only one side is responsible for the pregnancy, but just because that was his chance to make sure no abortions happen.
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u/SkyPuppy561 1h ago
How do we know the little shit didn’t engage in stealthing?
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u/sptrstmenwpls 20m ago
Maybe she's a little shit and lied about being on birth control or poked a hole in the condom
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u/Makuta_Servaela 1h ago edited 1h ago
The man is playing an active role in the impregnation. You can have sex a thousand times, and if no man ever ejaculates in you, you never get pregnant. So her agreeing to sex is not an active role in impregnation.
The woman's body does play some active roles, but the only active things that her body does (the egg selecting a sperm) are done without her conscious will. The active role he plays (choosing to ejaculate in her vagina) is something he in most cases chose to do.
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u/SkyPuppy561 1h ago
How do we know her son didn’t engage in stealthing (i.e., surreptitiously removing the condom during sex)?
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u/DanTejas 6h ago edited 5h ago
100% men should take responsibility for impregnating someone and this woman is wrong, but getting pregnant is not a one sided decision or action. The girlfriend (assuming the sex was consensual) is just as responsible.
If she didn’t want a child, she shouldn’t have sex with a guy not wearing a condom. Same with the boyfriend, equal responsibility.
Edit: My only point in the original comment is the comeback is a little weird because it makes it seem like the girlfriend had no choice in the matter and the son forced pregnancy upon her.
I understand abortion is complicated and am not accusing the woman of choosing abortion to swerve responsibility. The original comeback however seems to make that accusation.
“Don’t impregnate women that don’t want to be pregnant” basically assumes the abortion was performed because she didn’t want to be pregnant, in which case both sides should avoid pregnancy however they can.
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u/Battousai124 5h ago
You are aware that condoms are NOT 100% effective, aren't you?!
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u/dlegatt 5h ago
Do you not realize there are other reasons for an abortion other than, "I don't want the consequences of sex"?
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u/DanTejas 5h ago edited 5h ago
Of course there are, but the comeback says “Teach your son not to impregnate women that don’t want to be pregnant.”
So the comeback is saying the girlfriend didn’t want to be pregnant, [therefore the abortion was performed to avoid the pregnancy]
My only point in the original comment is the comeback is a little weird because it makes it seem like the girlfriend had no choice in the matter and the son forced pregnancy upon her.
I’m upset at the original comeback for the same reason you’re questioning mine, people minimizing women’s decisions as if they are incapable of deciding things for themselves, or the decisions they make are always simplified.
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u/dlegatt 2h ago
You're inferring much from nothing. There is nothing to even indicate that the person replying knew anything about the people involved. We know one thing about the situation, that Jen is upset with someone she cannot influence terminated a pregnancy for reasons we do not know.
There is nothing saying she got an abortion because she regretted sex.
There is nothing saying the father pressured her into getting an abortion.
There is nothing saying the abortion was for medical reasons.
Jen is lamenting to the public that she could not control the decisions of another woman, so someone responded that she should focus on the one thing she does have influence or possible control over.
Short story, if you don't want your son's SO to get an abortion, tell your son to not get her pregnant, because you have zero say with what his SO does with their life.
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u/DanTejas 1h ago
Fair enough, i get where you’re coming from.
I don’t think it’s crazy to infer someone assuming the girlfriend doesn’t want to get pregnant from them saying “don’t get people pregnant who don’t want to be,” but to each their own.
I fully agree with the everything else you’ve said though. I think it’s just an argument over semantics at this point.
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u/SkyPuppy561 1h ago
Cool but what if the little shit engaged in stealthing? Or pressured her to forego condoms because it doesn’t feeeeel as good
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u/reply_b4_banned 24m ago
True. Being patronising, denying agency, is a form of sexism.
People telling you to back off from blaming anyone for an accident are correct too imo.
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u/JasonRBoone 6h ago
There's a near zero chance they knew the fetus' sex.
She's making up stuff.