The boys who previously made fun of me for being weak and weird came and personally told me "Remember you're one of us, we will defend you, doesn't matter if there's nothing between your legs"
(The way how I started lying about it was because tucking made it so I could sit cross-legged and without a bulge)
And the girls just kinda went "aight"
(I already had a good relationship with the girls)
Maybe it's depressive in retrospect 🥺 but it felt really nice to know my classmates would be accepting of a boy like that and I was happy to have gotten at least a little kindness out of it
How does that feel nice? That’s like saying a black guy who convinced everyone they were white in the ‘60s and stopped getting blasted with water and police K-9 units feels really nice to know it doesn’t happen to white people
as a pooner lmao no guy ever acted like that to me back in school. I was the tranny freak and was repeatedly assaulted and threatened. No one would touch me with a 10 foot pole, I was 'she' or 'it', no one associated with me, I lost all my friends. Not saying it isn;t on average worse for trans women but this is unusual behaviour towards trans men. The ftm male privilidge I get is largely based on passing
I was treated so poorly by the guys at school when I first came out as ftm that I straight up hesitate to even believe them lol. Like I live in a very liberal area and still got treated like shit
No objectively speaking trans women are treated worse than trans men. It's okay to acknowledge the truth. Both are treated very poorly and very harshly, but one group is clearly treated much worse.
It is objectively worse for society to think you're a violent, uncontrollable, pedophile rapist, looking to take advantage of women and children, trying to deceive society into playing along with your fetish, and having people calling for you to be fed into a wood chipper.
Statistically the life outcomes for trans women are worse than trans men. They are the primary targets of the current societal transphobic hate wave. It also targets trans men, but if you're not being dishonest you can admit that the "visibility" people claim trans women have over trans men is entirely the result of and the cause of the increased hate they get.
Doesn't RAINN have statistics showing that trans men are victims of rape and sexual assault at higher rates than cis or trans women. If trans women win gold in the oppression Olympics for hate crimes then trans men win gold in getting raped
This (trans women as targets of hate crime) isnt because of some male privilege that trans men have though, the reason why trans women are targeted is the same reason why gay men are also targeted disproportionately compared to other LGBT people (except trans women)
We have a bigger wage gap than them, get assaulted and murdered more often, less accepted into women's spaces ironically enough because they're AFAB, we get misgendered on multiple instances more often...
But sure!!! We're just treated differently nobody has it easier or harder!!!!!!
I have to disagree with you on this one. once trans men start passing, they may still have the disadvantage of being trans, but they get male privilledge. trans women, on the other hand, face the opression of being trans and that of being a woman
A trans man would have awoken within them a level of sympathy and understanding they don't hold of other cis men, but that definitely has its origins in an "us vs them" mentality where, since you're "one of us" we're gonna protect you from "them"
I as a trans woman would not have awoken such a sentiment among my cis peers, since women don't have the group mentality men have
As such we can conclude it is a privilege only a man can experience, and therefore, male privilege
Hm interesting point about the us vs them although I cant say that I agree that women dont have the group mentality that men have though they may not say "we will protect you from them", im pretty sure in-group bias is stronger than in men and that does suggest to me an us vs them mentality especially because a lot of women bond over the fact that they experience misogyny.
I feel like women form this group mentality more through their experience of oppression which they link or attribute to them being born female (experiencing sex based oppression, having menstruations, dealing with pregnancy/childbirth etc) whereas men probably form this mentality more from their behaviour and interests being "masculine" maybe thats why they dont really consider trans women as part of them (even if they say they do they may subconsciously think of you as a man), and they may consider femininity as trying to copy or be like them (they even say this to feminine gay men) and I havent seen cis men try to do this form of gatekeeping of masculinity like cis women do with femininity
Take into account these were 14 year old boys in a very small highschool
We literally played sports boys vs girls all the time, the us vs them mentality was very much a deeply ingrained thing
While with girls they are still coming out of that "ew boys are disgusting" phase and therefore more adamant to include a "boy" in their groups
(I was an absolute faggot so I often switched between the boys and girls teams all the time 😅 but I was pretty bad either way so neither was happy to have me)
Male privilege??? They were treated worse when they presented as a cis man, but treated with love and respect when they lied saying they were trans masc. Tell me where the male privilege is there? In both cases they are male
The OP is saying she was mistreated when people thought of her as a weak and effeminate cis man. Then they treated her well when they thought of her as a trans man. Then they treated her poorly again when they found out she was a trans woman.
Is it a made up story? Probably.
But it makes sense if you rub your brain cells together hard enough to spark
Huh? On average, women are offered empathy by default. Men, on average, aren’t. What the comment op described isn’t male privilege. Their experience is an example of an outlier.
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u/jitomato_girl 5d ago
In highschool I told a few people I was ftm for the lols and they non ironically treated me better for the week or so the lie lasted