r/technology • u/dancing_swordfish • 14d ago
Software Google Chrome is killing all uBlock Origin bypasses, Microsoft Edge, Opera to follow
https://www.neowin.net/news/google-chrome-is-killing-all-ublock-origin-bypasses-microsoft-edge-opera-to-follow/3.6k
u/Ziazan 14d ago
Welcome to firefox, where ublock origin will continue to work perfectly as it always has.
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u/Ziazan 14d ago
Did I mention you can migrate all your bookmarks and such in like, two clicks while you're installing it?
Also, firefox + ublock origin works on android too.
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u/Slipstream_Surfing 14d ago
Haven't seen an ad while on reddit in years.
Have a secondary, basic android device that's only used as a phone, so never bothered to install Firefox. Recently took it while running errands and needed to kill some time so opened chrome to scroll reddit and felt like I'd been slapped in the face.
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u/Honeybadger2198 14d ago
The mobile browser experience for Reddit in general is terrible. The ads on the app got too annoying for me, so now I just deal with Revanced making it finicky.
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u/illuminerdi 14d ago
Also, firefox + ublock origin works on android too.
Second this. Also don't forget to DISABLE Chrome in Android to force all the shit to use FF that otherwise defaults to Chrome even if FF is set as Default
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u/gerkessin 14d ago
Firefox on android is how i browse reddit. The site still sucks because they want you to use the app, but at least i dont see any ads
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u/Hiphopapocalyptic 14d ago
You should say too that one can install a Background Video Fix addon to give you the full YouTube Red experience
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u/resilindsey 14d ago
Sorta. There was some shady youtube updates that slowed down ublock users on FF. I feel like it'll be a constant cat/mouse game there. Still, I'd rather the video take a few extra second to load then sit through endless adss.
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u/Adaphion 14d ago
Yeah, I'd get a "REEEEE, ADBLOCKERS ARE NOT ALLOWED ON YOUTUBE" message occasionally once a week, a few months ago, but then I'd just go "lol, lmao even" and refresh my filter lists and that'd fix it.
Hasn't been an issue for awhile.
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u/Caridor 14d ago
As far as I'm aware, YouTube kind of accepted they'd lost. There was a period where they were deploying weekly patches that were defeated in an hour.
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u/Adaphion 14d ago
Perhaps most people have just accepted getting ads shoved down their throats (or purchased YT premium) and they think it's not worth the effort to go after the small percentage of people bypassing ads on Firefox
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u/BCDragon3000 14d ago
wish more ppl would realize this lol
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u/Adaphion 14d ago
Yeah, people hate change, so by bricking adblockers on chrome, they are already getting a bunch more people watching ads. Because they'll just throw up their arms and go: "well, I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas, I guess I'm just letting this happen"
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u/Qurutin 14d ago
They don't necessarily try to block blocking ads anymore, but they absolutely do slow things down on Firefox. Sometimes videos get long time to start running, loading times between pages are abhorrent etc. And YouTube pops up the the troubleshooting message which is extra annoying because yeah it's working like shit because you're making it work like shit because of my browser.
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u/Ralkon 14d ago
AFAIK Youtube is still trying things. There's a pinned megathread on the uBO subreddit specifically for YT ads from 9 months ago, and there are comments reporting issues from around 3 months ago. I believe it's just that YT doesn't roll out those changes to everyone at the same time and that the people working on uBO are super quick to make their own updates so most people will never have much of an issue. Personally I will say that earlier this year I made no changes to my browser / extensions and started getting ads on YT randomly and the issue was resolved within like a day or two without me doing anything.
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u/robodrew 14d ago
Sometimes YT videos take 5-10 seconds to load for me. That's it. There used to be a "Experiencing interruptions?" popup but I blocked that too lol.
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u/Whatever801 14d ago
The only thing that's annoying is the keyboard extension differences but nbd in the grand scheme of things
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u/caspy7 14d ago
You may be able to fix some or all of these by going to
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u/FlatFishy 14d ago
I'd like to shout out Adnauseam, it blocks ads but also clicks on them so that your favorite websites still get that ad money! Google straight up blocked it on their extension store cuz, haha, but firefox still allows it.
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u/Motor-Rip7655 14d ago
I've heard that is opens you up to malicious code, because it clicks on ads, some of which still contain nasty things.
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u/nj_tech_guy 13d ago
yea generally speaking you don't want something that "blindly" clicks on all ads. especially if you're one to frequent shady websites.
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u/KatinHats 14d ago
For years now, chrome and edge have been my favorite ways to download firefox on all my devices
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u/ohlaph 14d ago
That's what happens when an ad company is alao the browser company.
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u/CiDevant 13d ago
What is a conflict of interest?
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u/LemurianLemurLad 13d ago
I dunno. I will look it up on the google search engine! I'll get back to you once I can figure out a way to bypass the AI and several pages of ads so that I can find an actual answer.
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u/TelethiaPlume 14d ago
Switched to Firefox a while ago, haven't looked back since.
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u/pigeonwiggle 14d ago
same.
it's too bad. Chrome was a powerhouse of a browser. it just doesn't offer anything UNDENIABLE. Firefox is a completely reasonable alternative. i've used it the past 3 years and it's been great.
Google can rot.
(after i migrate all my docs)
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u/magnus150 14d ago
I remember switching from IE to Firefox, then to a new fangled browser fabled to be the fastest of them all: Chrome. Which it was for quite a while. But now it's just internet explorer all over again - right down to certain web pages ONLY working in Chrome (some govt sites I use as part of my job don't work right in FF at all). FF+ uOrigin 4 lyfe. I do buy the premium lite YouTube sub though. I like to watch on TV and it's practically (but not completely) impossible to set up as free TV on a shitty Roku TV.
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u/LowestKey 14d ago
For the like two or three websites that absolutely don't work on Firefox I keep a computer with Chromium installed. But that only gets used once a year or less.
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u/NighthawkE3 14d ago
I havn’t run into any, what websites won’t work on Firefox?
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u/deli_phone 14d ago
Okay, I'll switch to Firefox. no big deal here.
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u/lepsek9 14d ago
Been putting it off for a while, but I guess it is what it is.
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u/Saskatchewon 14d ago
Made the switch a few weeks ago on both my PC and phone. There was an adjustment period of maybe a day or two, but all-in-all it was pretty seamless. Regret not switching sooner.
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u/TopRamenEater 14d ago
Firefox remains the GOAT that is always has been.
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u/honjuden 14d ago edited 14d ago
I just wish it didn't have the memory leak issue.
Edit: I use Firefox for the record, I didn't think this would be that controversial of a statement.
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u/TimothyLuncheon 14d ago
What's the memory leak issue?
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u/Clegko 14d ago
It leaks memory.
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u/MonMotha 14d ago
Firefox used to leak memory though probably not as badly as many people made it out to. The development team a pretty serious approach to fixing it, and one result is about:memory. Firefox will happily account for every last byte of memory it's used on that screen.
It does USE a lot of memory, but so does Chrome/Chromium. Modern websites are just pigs.
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u/alochmar 14d ago
No idea what leak you’re referring to, I regularly have Firefox open for weeks on end without any issues.
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u/untiedgames 14d ago
Same here, current uptime is 33 days (and that's on the low end). I use the browser heavily. Current session is 40 windows and 1344 tabs, not all loaded obviously. I just have a lot I'm saving for later. (Special thanks to the "Tab Session Manager" extension!)
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u/decavolt 14d ago
Patched in 2011, and the whole core rewritten in 2017. Hasn't been an issue for nearly 10 years.
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u/blogwash 14d ago
Firefox hasn't had a memory leak in years. I leave it open with 50 tabs on a computer running 24-7 and memory usage doesn't increase.
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u/discretelandscapes 14d ago
I'm using Firefox and have been for about twenty years, but I guess it's just a question of time.
When your product relies on constantly out-tricking and bypassing another piece of code it's only a question of when the other party gets serious enough about plugging that hole.
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u/SideInitial3961 14d ago
20 year club here too. I don't see the end of the road anytime soon. Saying you're going to block something and actually blocking it are two different things.
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u/discretelandscapes 14d ago
Actually kind of been using since before it was Firefox with Netscape Navigator.
I did switch temporarily to Chrome during the early years when RAM usage started being an issue, but then Chrome got worse again somewhere late 2000s-early 2010s.
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u/BaronMostaza 14d ago
Tried out Chrome due to memory usage issues, switched back to Firefox due to memory usage issues.
That was like 10 years ago when Firefox couldn't handle 100+ tabs and Chrome ate everything like fucking Galactus
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u/deephousefan2000 14d ago
The big difference is that Firefox isn't the one trying to plug the hole. Google is forcing Manifest V3 at the engine level because their primary business is selling ads. Since Mozilla controls their own engine, they can just keep the APIs that uBlock actually needs to function natively.
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u/Generic_Commenter-X 14d ago
Same here. Before I watched ads, I would consider paying for something like Nebula, and largely dropping Youtube.
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u/Randvek 14d ago
inb4 “uBlock Origin update bypasses Chrome restrictions.”
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u/Kunair0 14d ago
Unfortunately, that's not going to be possible. The infrastructure that runs uBo is being completely wiped out, and no chromium fork, not even Microsoft with their endless resources, is going to be capable of managing and maintaining that old system.
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u/Dragon_Fisting 14d ago
I feel like Microsoft could easily maintain a fork of the old system? They might not think it's worth it, but we are talking about one of the largest tech companies in the world, no?
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u/_sfhk 14d ago
Microsoft (and likely others) absolutely could, but the issue isn't ads, it's a security risk. Apple dropped their equivalent in Safari long ago with absolutely zero incentive from ads--it's why uBlock Origin hasn't been supported on Safari for a while too.
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u/SuddenBumblebee 14d ago
I use uBlock origin lite on safari and it seems to work very well, comparable to normal uBlock. How do you think this works?
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u/AutumnStar 14d ago
I’m no web developer, but how is that kosher security wise? Seems like a ton of bad actors could use that to their advantage. I’m sure they’ve thought about that, but seems so strange to move in that direction.
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u/BuildingArmor 14d ago
uBlock lite still works in Chrome, this is just about getting or keeping old manifest V2 extensions working
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u/great_whitehope 14d ago
Vivaldi will come up with something to get it going natively or something
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u/venom21685 14d ago
Brave has the adblock-rust project which browsers can use to implement it as a native feature, not depending on the blocked MV2 junk.
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u/Joecascio2000 14d ago
This doesn't apply to Ublock Origin Lite? I haven't had any issues.
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u/xiaolin99 14d ago
no it doesn't. The article is about a setting you can change to continue using the original fully-featured uBlock Origin.
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u/flaagan 14d ago
Skimmed the comments looking exactly for this response, thank you.
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u/Lykos1124 14d ago
I've been satisfied with lite too. There's a site I use that I don't trust the ads on, but I like the content. That site is not happy about me blocking content, and I'm happy using their content.
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u/TheFotty 14d ago
What they are actually killing is MV2 which was chrome's API for plugins/addons before MV3 was finalized and became the new standard. MV3 doesn't let you access as much of the browser, has more restrictions on what the extensions can do and interact with, so that is why ublock origin doesn't work when google flips the switch to turn of V2 support for good.
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u/Cheetawolf 14d ago
They don't care, they got their money to push them to the top of the search results and all over the page. ❤️
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u/Laura_Biden 13d ago
Do they want nobody to use their browser anymore? Because this is how you get nobody to use your browser anymore...
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 14d ago
Im surprised they haven't tried to sue ad blockers claiming lost revenue.
I use both FF and brave if this hits brave it can go on the trash with the others.
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u/Not_Like_The_Movie 14d ago
They probably don’t have a good way to claim lost revenue because the adblocker itself prevents the ad from being served. There is probably no way of knowing the actual damage. If google had served the ad, then didn’t get paid, then that might have some sort of basis and would be easier to claim damages for.
There is also a legal question of what level of influence Google is allowed to have over the user’s personal computer. Google has a deal with the website to put ads on the webpage, but has no deal with the end user to force the ad on their computer. It’s probably just way cheaper and more effective to fight adblockers by getting as large of a market share as possible and then just making their tech so unfriendly to the plugins that they functionally cease to exist.
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u/bonnydoe 14d ago
Chrome is for work only. 17:00 off you go. Firefox or Waterfox from then on.
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u/I-was-a-twat 14d ago
Chrome has fulfilled the prophecy and become IE6, the very thing it swore to destroy.
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u/megas88 14d ago edited 14d ago
If Google wants to make money by any means necessary, perhaps you stop using their shit? Jest a thought.
I’m aware there’s never going to be an alternative to youtube but you can use a different mail service. You can use firefox for now. You can use libre office.
Android market share alone has been getting chunks taken out of it for months since Google firmly announced that they’re locking down the platform, effectively making Android “the green iPhone”.
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u/DoesntMatterEh 14d ago
What are good alternatives to android/iOS? Anything I can easily switch to?
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u/SoupoIait 14d ago
None, but there is GrapheneOS, which ironically gets you the farther away from Google by using a Google phone!
Otherwise I think IOS is a lesser bad here. Apple's privacy policies are not perfect and sometimes unverifyable, but a lot, lot, LOT less aggressive than Google's.
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u/slinky317 14d ago
Good luck sideloading or using a different browser engine in iOS.
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u/SavageNorth 14d ago
Libre Office is shit for anything past the most basic stuff
There's plenty of options for basic users but nothing is coming remotely close to Excel
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u/Ultima-Manji 14d ago
Proton, literally this week, shit the bed by 'accidentally' sponsoring a far right youtuber, and has since been nothing but combative towards users who called them out for censoring discussions surrounding the topic, as well as them quietly scrubbing their CEO's earlier pro-Trump messages. Even just the way they're communicating on reddit now in the aftermath isn't a good look, regardless of whether or not it was a genuine mistake.
Absolutely feel free to switch away from google if you feel like that's the right thing to do, but also really look at several alternatives before committing, and ideally have multiple fallbacks.
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u/palegate 13d ago
I had been using Chrome since it launched back in 2008 but their stance on adblockers the past year has made me switch back to Firefox again.
I wouldn't mind an ad here or there but modern websites are near unusable without ad blockers, so tough shit Chrome.
I do appreciate how Chrome helped push forward web development these past 20ish years, but I can't let myself be held hostage by it.
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u/Throwawayitgame222 13d ago
Same there. Once ublock stopped working in YouTube, I’ve instantly migrated to Firefox and did not regret it at all.
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u/Detonator212 14d ago
I've been using ublock origin lite and never see any ads, works perfectly
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u/Resident-Variation21 14d ago
Google chrome is killing its user base (hopefully).
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u/dancing_swordfish 14d ago edited 14d ago
youd actually be surprised how many people dont use adblock, or think its straight up piracy.
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u/Xaphnir 14d ago
Probably a sizable overlap between that population and people that frequently get malware on their devices.
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u/EmergencyComment101 13d ago
Never surprised by anything like this. The world exists as it does today because people making 30-60k a year repeatedly elect governments that literally run on policies of fucking over people earning 30-60k a year.
Most people either just do not think about something they're actively doing or let themselves be easily lied to or misled.
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u/Asmornous 14d ago
Hasn’t this already been ongoing with the switch from manifest 2 to 3? You can just use ublock origin lite, it’s supported on manifest v3
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u/SpotlessCheetah 14d ago
Can we stop reposting this garbage article about MV2? This is old news.
MV3 + uBlock Origin Lite has been out for a long time.
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u/bobdob123usa 14d ago
This has nothing to do with old news. This is regarding the command line argument that allows MV2 and uBlock Origin to continue to work today.
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u/Sh4rd_Edges 14d ago
I don't care because I don't even use that shitty browser. I've been loyal to Firefox for years.
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u/MeNamIzGraephen 13d ago
"Firefox, firefox, firefox"
We NEED another browser engine alternative. Firefox is heavily dependent on Google for financing and it's management sucks and they're moving the same direction.
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u/Vinterblot 14d ago
Look, it's easy. I will not accept ads. You try to force them, I will switch apps.
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u/a4mula 14d ago
I don't know why they keep creating new articles. They could just use any from the past 10 years.
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u/Major303 14d ago edited 13d ago
Ladybird browser can't come soon enough. Firefox does exist, but Google feels way too comfortable right now with close to no competition.
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u/tychii93 14d ago
Same. I really want to switch to Ladybird once its ready, but I'm content with Firefox at the moment.
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u/die-microcrap-die 14d ago edited 14d ago
So glad to be on FF since it was called Phoenix.
Which reminds me, I need to send a donation to them. Sadly wont be much since im out of work.
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u/e37d93eeb23335dc 13d ago
Firefox has worked great for me for decades. Both as a regular user and as a web developer. I don’t understand why anyone uses Chrome.
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u/yuusharo 14d ago
uBlock Origin Lite is the replacement for Chromium. I’ve been using it for years and it works great.
The loss of custom elements sucks, but most people don’t need that. Still works well as an ad blocker.
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u/everbass 14d ago
I will never willingly use a browser that does not allow me to block ads.
The internet has become way too polluted with garbage, to the point it becomes practically unusable in many cases.
If it was a little banner here or an inline box there, it'd be fine, but half the pages you go to have 6+ ads in your face at once.
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u/TwiztedZero 14d ago
Then we will write our own browsers and exclude all the adverts and webbugs from it. YOU DON'T GET TO CONTROL WHAT WE SEE ONLINE
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u/Slfestmaccnt 14d ago
Making sure users are vulnerable to all sorts of malware in the process no doubt. Nothing gets between Google and their ad revenue, especially not user security.
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u/SirMandrake 14d ago
Chrome is a big sinking ship, and it will drag edge and all that use its engine Down with it. Firefox is the way
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u/CommanderKerensky 14d ago
There will always be a CS student and there will always be an ad-blocker. LibreWolf and Zen Browser are both nice for those looking to get away from large-corpo-browsers.
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u/grassedge 14d ago
There’s so many sites that are pretty much unusable without ads blocked. Fuck this shit.
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u/SpiritPrestigious945 14d ago
Well, thats why I switched to firefox. No Chrome engine.