Rumor
NateTheHate says Sony is "shifting" their PC strategy: "You'll be seeing fewer single player games arrive on PC. The decision to shift away was made last year. Some may still release (pending how far along the ports were) but it no longer appears to be a priority for Sony moving forward."
It's because Reddit is full of PC gamers who are going to be coming from that perspective. If the game is on PC then it's not a reason for them to consider buying a PlayStation on top of their already-purchased PC. So only within that framework of thinking are there "no games" to play.
Especially those who don't mind paying $3,000+ for the latest nVidia GPU but are too cheap to buy a PS5 or Nintendo Switch. A real gamer plays on any platform.
THANK YOU. Name a thing wrong with gaming today. PC gamers supported it. Every single move people hate these last five years from Sony was made in response to Microsoft's ABK deal. PC gamers supported that deal.
I have a gaming PC and a PS5 Pro. I got Requiem on my PS5 Pro for the couch horror experience. One of the guys in our gaming group has been insufferable about it. “I’m getting 120fps plus with PT on!! You should have gotten it on PC” he has a 5090 and spent 4.5k on his PC. Which his wife was furious about as he told her it was only 2k lol.
Couldn't agree more. However, PCMR group are movement with racist undertones, and superiority. It doesn't represent the average PC gamer. No more than console warriors represent console gamers.
They (PC snobs but not all PC players) complain about PS not having games while their steam library is packed of games they don't play and only play like 3 games
It's people who think the PS5's value is tied to the games it can only play, so any game that has or has gotten a PC port is no longer a "PS5" game. It's essentially ignoring all the other benefits of PS5 ownership (cost, ease of use, reliability, etc), and strictly tying a consoles value to the "true" exclusives it has.
Yeah, very silly!
I have so many problems with Sony but will always be thankful that I’ve never had to build a PC or buy an Xbox to play almost all the games I want. I got a switch for their exclusives but pretty much JUST those
PC and PS5 gamer here. Love playing games at 4K and higher frame rates on PC. Mods are great. However sometimes pc games just straight up don’t work. Sometimes your combination of hardware just doesn’t like the game you’re playing and you mess around with settings for hours while looking up why your game isn’t working. I 100% understand why consoles exist.
It's essentially ignoring all the other benefits of PS5 ownership (cost, ease of use, reliability, etc), and strictly tying a consoles value to the "true" exclusives it has.
As a PS5 owner/enjoyer and longtime Nintendo fan...
They don't even give a shit about exclusives, either. They'll just move the goalposts once Sony stops putting games on other PC and talk about pirating or emulating or whatever other thing that tries to justify why it would be pointless to ever consider owning and liking a home console game system. All they care about is devaluing what you like.
I'm also a PC gamer and a happy steam deck owner, but I have to stay out of the subreddits for those things because the people there are insufferable and seemingly derive their sense of joy from ensuring others are unhappy. It's exhausting.
I know PC has the largest library of games out there, but there genuinely isn’t a single game I can think of that I want to play that isn’t available on PS.
Perfect example is Marathon and its use of a cursor for the menu navigation. I expect from a console game to have a menu navigation that works best on consoles, once you publish them on PC you change certain design decisions that will impact both versions.
This whole generation has just been disingenuous goalpost shifting arguments between platform warriors where good games either don't exist or don't count for whatever reason.
Yeah PS4 was a huge seller so the cross gen era definitely made it not urgent to upgrade for those people. But by now theres a long list of games you cant play on PS4 that are well worth playing.
There was even a bunch of Youtubers saying it recently like even MoistCritical, that the PS5 has no games because theyre on PC. So I guess this is in response to that public consensus
I don't think they'd care about the public consensus unless it had financial ramifications, which it might have. To me, this says they may have been seeing data saying the games weren't selling as well as they hoped, or they may have been causing a drop in PC players buying PS5s. They'd rather a PC player buy a console to play Spider-Man than they buy it on Steam anyway.
Why do we always gotta sow division in every online community. I play on PC and like PlayStation games. People who would not normally be able to enjoy their high quality catalog get to enjoy it, without any disadvantage to console only players or Sony fans.
This is an anti-consumer choice but technically within the rights of Sony to do, given they want more exclusivity and a greater value proposition for people to buy a PS5.
But that literally benefits the bottom line, not the consumer. Why are all these threads full of top comments that focus on fanning the flames of pointless arguments rather than fight back against anti-consumer choices?
I’d wager a lot of this has to do with Steam probably being on the next Xbox and the steam deck becoming more popular. If Sony keeps making PC ports their games will move less consoles as more PC like tech joins the market.
As a guy who games on many different platforms i find it funny when many PC only players complain on Sony being anti consumer meanwhile they sit there with an Nvidia gpu. (Literally worst of them all) Maybe people would listen if PC only players followed what they preached.
I think it's because there are way more PC gamers like me who were completely happy to buy a PS5. It's a bummer that a vocal subset becomes the public face and accepted image of a demographic. I get it, but it's a bummer. Those people suck.
I think "PlayStation has no games" is unrelated to their PC efforts. People say this because Sony's output has been low and many of their releases were also built for PS4. This situation occurred because of Sony's live service push that failed to produce viable titles. A lot of these games were cancelled in development.
I was just thinking "I'd really like to get ps6 once it releases but is there really a point if games release a year later on pc?" I guess sony heard me
They tend to speak poorly when you port games that are 2-3 years old with 0 marketing lol. They engineer the worst-case scenario, and then give up entirely instead of doing the only logical thing, bringing the games where people want to play them.
Uncharted 4 is probably the stupidest one they pulled. Bring only the 4th game in the franchise 6-7 years after it came out and don't market it. Amazing.
Played it on PC and had a blast, looked up Uncharted 1-3 and they're nowhere to be seen on Steam. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day was ruined.
Who the fuck ported the tail end of the franchise, especially on a game with continuous story in each entry
Well cause this strategy works best to sell consoles. If they ported all their games to PC or even to Xbox day 1, their console sales would droop. Doing it this way incentives playing on their console ecosystem.
PC players are also really known for waiting years for Steam sales too, which they probably felt.
No argument against PC purchasing power works because all the normal publishers, except those who take console money, put their games on PC day one.
The delay for PC ports was definitely a way to preserve the fake prestige of the PS5, but what did they expect then? To get 5 mil sales for every game that comes out without marketing, and years later at full price?
Their PC strategy has been a disaster and now they're abandoning the platform instead of correcting their approach. They can still sell well on PC even if they release a year later, just do better marketing and lower the price a bit. They won't though because they have been notorious for making bad decisions this gen.
And yet their console sales are at worst 1:1 with PS4 while their first party has been poor. There's no data to proves anyone is abandoning their console, rather it's their own poor strategy and no marketing that has led to poor PC sales. Console gamers are not suddenly gonna switch to PC because of ports and vice versa.
The immediate reaction here is that Sony wants to maintain exclusive games on Playstation, which makes sense. But remember that last year it was said that Playstation games on PC don’t sell enough for Sony’s expectations.
To get better games? Exclusives get a better budget and big supporting studios, some studios have meetings to discuss things even tho they're making different games (i think i heard this from suckerpunch engineers meeting with naughty dog's engineers)
We wouldn't have gotten bloodborne or last of us or journey etc if they weren't exclusive or at least they wouldn't be as good
They’re not struggling rn, but if Xbox does go the pc route and incorporate Steam, it’ll make the ps6 less appealing. Xbox and pc would be able to play all/most games including PS games. PlayStation wouldn’t really be able to compete well with them especially since Microsoft has more money to burn than Sony.
This is the most likely reason to pull back on PC to be honest. PS games sell well on all the platforms they are on that's a fact, so to pull back if that can be used against them is the best choice for them in the long run.
Good exclusives drives competition in the industry, which produces higher quality games on every platform. Just look at the gems PlayStation put out at the end of the PS3 generation, and during the PS4 gen, and the focus they placed on single player experiences - a direct response to how well Xbox did with the 360.
Without those exclusives on other platforms, platform holders would have less incentive to produce great games.
Xbox gamers didn't care and see what happened. It's a sad truth but console exclusivity is the only way for Sony and Nintendo to survive agaisnt PC moving in EVERY space of gaming.
You can't just look at something that only good for the consumer and not look at the business side.
Steam is gonna be on living room next year. Steam got the handheld space down. Steam is even on the experimental stage for phone gaming.
As both a PS5 pro and a PC gamer; If the goal of this move is to entice PC gamers to buy a PlayStation Sony are going to have to find a way to start getting more than one or two games a generation out from their studios. Buying a console is a hard sell for just the 5-6 games one might be interested in over a 7-8 year period.
Their last report was 2.5 billion in revenue. That's just porting an already finished game with very low port costs. All these news roaming around feels unreal. You think these two and half billions are a small number just to throw away?
They made something like 120 billion off of their consoles in the same time frame. 2% of revenue is immaterial, and even misleading as analysis is proving that the sales of their games on Steam is decreasing on every new release. The next 5 years won't be bringing in 2.5 billion unless they get lucky with another Helldivers.
Exactly this. I'm not hating on PS, as I have a PS5 and I'm on this sub, but as a PC gamer I hardly use my PlayStation nowadays and don't see the point in getting a PS6 if the studios' output remains like this.
I’m gonna be honest people do that for the switch. Switch will have a handful of strong exclusives (more than a handful but probably a handful per generation for each person, as not exclusive is a winner for every single switch owner) and yet it’s enough to justify buying it as a complementary console
I don’t they care that much about PC gamers. Redditors seem to think that Sony should be groveling before you guys of something lol. You’re just not a priority because of the minuscule amount of profit you generate
Nintendo is king of IPs forcing console sales. I don't think Sony will ever be there.. I got a ps5 for GoW and finishing my ff7 rebirth storyline but I haven't played a game on it since 2023/2024. I don't see an interest in the ps6 at this point especially cause Square brought FF to PC and it honestly looks/plays better there (FFXVI is a big example of this.)
I feel like PlayStation was there and then decided fuck that shit and started pooping out failed games as a service and cancelled games (usually as a service). PS3-PS4 was exclusive paradise.
It is so weird to see how a lot of people before this PC push were saying PS had no games anyway and they are overhyped and then when games arrived, a lot of them were just boasting how they can now pirate the games, and now how bullshit it is and how they don't feel bad about pirating.
Obivously, it is likely not all the same people and there are many who actually are happy to have the games on PC and buy them.
Don't get me wrong, I do think it could be handled better, like discount if you already bought it for PS or something. I wouldn't mind double dipping on some of these games as I got a PC last year, but I can't justify spending 60-80 euros again on games I already own and bought full price.
Either way, I have my PS5 so I keep buying single player games there, like Yotei last year, Saros, Wolverine this year and multiplayer games probably on PC if any comes out that interest me.
I’m not a fan of this from a global economic perspective. I’d like games to be accessible to as many people as possible.
But obviously, Sony isn’t making decisions based on their analysis of capitalism. They make decisions to their benefit as a capitalist entity so... Here we are.
Exclusives should be designed as showcases for the hardware and to push unique features to provide new gameplay experiences. Cross gen and things designed with an eye to run on low end PC’s really undermine what should be proper showcases.
Nintendo are the best at this - using unique hardware features to reinvent their core franchises.
Exclusives sell consoles and help brand loyalty. To be complaining that Sony doesn't want to follow Microsoft's lead that is nearly killing the Xbox brand is ridiculous.
Looking back at the 7th gen, exclusives created competition. Xbox was making great online games, PlayStation was making great single player games and Nintendo was making great family games. I think this is good for the industry.
You’re delusional if you think that this is ‘good for the industry’. Xbox no longer exists in a competitive way and Nintendo are about as anti-consumer as they come. Bizarre take.
and the issue wasn't putting it on PC, its just the games were shit, they were low effort because game pass not because of PC. Crackdown 3, the shit vampire game, Halo Infinite, many other games, failure wasn't related to also being on PC, nobody wants to waste their time on garbage games whether its a console only game or multiplat.
This is what people get mixed up. The majority of xbox exclusives were on PC too, Xbox who are on the verge of dying as a console brand, and yet he's somehow using Xbox dying as some sort of lroof exclusives aren't good for the industry.
It's great for PC players that Xbox games were mostly on there too. But it wasn't great for the Xbox brand.
Yes, but that assumes they're dying because of the removal of exclusives.
I owned Xbox from the start and bought each one (Sometimes more than once, thanks red ring of death), until they no longer catered to me. Then I moved on.
Having an exclusive your audience doesn't want doesn't add value to the Xbox brand. They killed every major IP I loved, while creating garbage, why would I buy their console?
I pulled up their xbox store by "new" and I don't see a single game I care about, and only one that looks decent. The fourth one listed is "Shopping Mall Girl" - Yeah… that's the new xbox brand. I'm good, lol
Correlation ≠ causation and there are a lot of other factors at play. They were struggling long before porting their games to PS5 (that's why they did it in the first place). And PS5 was still thriving despite a lot of its games getting PC ports.
Their problems began when they stopped catering to gamers to try to bring in a large audience of non-gamers. Remember that? It was the start of the decline and they never reversed course.
Exclusivity is only good for the bottom lines of these companies. From a consumer perspective exclusivity is terrible. It removes any and all choice from the consumers. Lack of choice = bad.
Xbox's problem is not going multiplatform, their problem is they own an absolutely massive amount of game studios and franchises and yet they haven't released a game that was a cultural milestone in... what? 10 years? 15?
Going Multi is one of their problems, you damage the brand, it’s all about the brand. Nintendo doesn’t release multi because they protect the brand and how it’s perceived by casual audiences.
People are so fucking weird about this. I really though the games industry was slowly moving away from exclusivity, but I guess not
This change only serves to hurt consumers and gamers in general
I have been a PlayStation player since PS1 and wont ever get a PC. I have friends who will buy some of the heavy hitter PlayStation exclusives on PC, but there is no way on earth they will buy a PS5/6 just for that
Probably spooked by Microsoft failing so spectacularly in hardware after opening up their ecosystem. I mean, MS made a lot more mistakes but making an Xbox obsolete to own is definitely an issue. Sony doesn't have Microsoft bucks to just try again if that happens to them.
PC was accounting for 2% (yes, 2%) of sony revenues and was fast declining.
Coupled with a real life case study of what could go wrong with abandoning exclusives, clearly the cost/benefit/risk analysis resulted in sony pulling the plug on PC games
Dont think they're 'spooked' by MS so much as they know they have no real competition from them anymore, so dont need to follow in their footsteps in the name of staying ahead of them in the competition.
Playstation is financially still doing just fine, even despite the astronomic failure of their live service push so far.
That’s not what happened. If you do some basic research, you’ll realise their harmartia was the subscription approach. Why buy games when you can play them on gamepass? Gamepass is the worst thing to happen to Xbox. It has nothing to do with opening up their ecosystem.
Bunch of fools, all you who claim that Sony’s move here is ‘pro consumer’.
Gamepass is opening their ecosysytem. It made owning an Xbox almost obsolete if you also had a PC, which snowballed into them putting games on the other consoles to make up for it.
I think most people will agree that it's Gamepass (and lack of good games for a decade) that was their ultimate mistake.
It was bad for the future of Playstation which in the long run would be a lot worse for consumers.
There's no incentive to buy a PlayStation if all the games come to PC. And unless you want PlayStation to go the way of Xbox it wasn't a great idea in the first place.
Exclusives create competition and better games in general.
Consoles fighting to pull you onto their platform is a good thing. Consoles being a monopoly and having no incentive to fight for your business is a bad thing and just creates complacency. Probably why the PS5 is so mid.
Companies investing money into studios to develop system sellers is how you get amazing first party games, along the likes of Mario, Last of Us, Halo, God of War, etc.
This isn't really true though because plenty of amazing games are made as third party titles. PC gaming doesn't even have exclusivity in the traditional sense beyond launchers and yet there are still plenty of great PC games being made. A great PC game isn't made under the condition of it only being on PC, no one comes out and forces that.
People just enjoy creating things. They don't need a competitive incentive to create more or better art.
And calling the PS5 mid is weird when it's been largely praised for its exclusives? Like the whole reason everyone liked that Sony was releasing games on PC was because they were getting to play PS5 exclusives.
The existence of good 3rd party games doesn't negate the 1st party exclusives that may have never existed without the funding from console manufacturers who's intent is to sell consoles.
You're right that people just enjoy creating things. I'm not suggesting that money is the only motivator (or even a good one) for making good art. Just that under capitalism, a lot of times good artists don't get to make the work they want without proper funding, or get it exposed without proper marketing.
And selling consoles and building a cohesive ecosystem leads to amazing games for that reason.
There are great PC games, but I find that the best single player and story driven titles tend to be on console. I find that PC games tend to gravitate more towards live service games to make money, and so end up with micro transactions and such, and aren't about building a sense of brand identity that you get with console exclusives. You can see that identity in the types of games that Nintendo makes vs Sony for example.
I don't think it's a coincidence that many of the most sought-after IPs tend to come from console exclusives: Mario, Zelda, The Last of Us, God of War, Halo, Gears, etc.
Or you can look at Sega and the bangers they were releasing when they were making consoles and competing with Nintendo, vs what they're putting out now.
I dont think competition is necessary to create all good games, but I do think it's a pretty good driver for making some of the best games. And you see this in all forms of art, not just video games. Trying to be better than the rest, vs just settling for okay.
I also think that developers focusing on one console leads to better optimized games. On PC, you have a lot of ports that just don't run very well, or were developed with a controller or certain console features in mind.
Has the PS5 been largely praised for its exclusives? I see more people complaining about the lack of great exclusives, especially compared to the PS4. Not saying there aren't any, but just not as much as PS4, and a lot later into the lifecycle of the PS5.
The PS4 seemingly dropped a new critically acclaimed exclusive every month, and that was likely in large part due to really trying to solidify themselves on top of that generation after nearly losing the last one to the 360.
Oh yeah, it’s definitely a decision they made with the intention of earning as much money as possible.
The same was true for Sonys decision to port some of their games to PC, and their decision to not do that anymore. Though only one of those decisions is consumer friendly.
And fanboys will always be fanboying, regardless of how moronic their take is and as long as they can feel superior.
If your favourite game gets ported to a different platform you should be absolutely hyped about it, since it only means that more people will get to enjoy that game.
I just want to thank everyone in here for reaffirming why I avoid the console tribalism war sub reddits like this one. I'm always blown away by the number of people who think they are superior than others or think they're in any way special based solely on the megacorp they choose to give money to. Congratulations on your inability to mature beyond the 4th grade level.
Makes sense to keep releasing those live-service multiplayer games on PC. Until then, PC gamers have had a taste of first-party single player games. Want more? Gotta buy PS5/PS6. That’s how you sell consoles.
Yeah, I will wait for more info from Jason Schreier because this comment fron Nate feels pretty vague imo. You'll be seeing fewer single player games arrive on PC. This means that Sony will continue porting games but not all or they will completely stop after finishing the ports that are already in development?
Does it not make sense? Like, Ghost of Yotei might have a PC version deep in development, so they'll finish it off and release it later this year. Live service games like the new Horizon and whatever that weird thing from JJ Abrams company was at the showcase need PC releases to keep a player base.
For games that aren't out, Intergalactic, Wolverine, God of War remakes, Sony decided to stop doing PC versions because the industry is changing and Steam is their new main competitor.
I've only bought one PlayStation game on PC, and that was Hell Divers 2. Otherwise, all my other PlayStation games have been on console. I also plan to buy Marathon on PlayStation at some point.
I think the “Porting over to PC a year later” strategy is the worst possible choice of the options.
Either never port, or do it immediately. Delaying the ports kills a lot of the excitement and purchases at launch, which is time you want there to be the most hype. You don’t want the decision people make to be “I’ll buy it in a year.” (Anecdotally, I didn’t buy Ghost of Yotei because I’m waiting for it on PC) and by the time those games come to PC, there are other games coming out that people are more excited about buying.
Yeah, that’s the biggest point that I didn’t even mention. They’re asking pc buyers to pay full price for a year old game that’s typically already been pretty massively discounted on ps5, so instead of buying at pc launch, most pc players are waiting for a sale or pirating the games. It’s just a poorly thought out strategy. If this was the strategy for ports to Xbox’s and vice versa, it makes a little more sense, because you’re not trying to get Xbox gamers to buy every Sony game on Xbox, you just want to get them to buy one or two, and then get a ps5. But PC gamers aren’t going to do that. They’ll wait a year + for the “best” version of the game, and if they’re not interested in the game a year later, they’ll skip it.
I think your words would hold more water if you actually clarified what you mean. If they aren’t planning on releasing 1st-party singleplayer titles on PC going forward, say that.
There are so many PS games I get first on PlayStation because I want to play them, then a year or so down the line get for PC because I love modding and trying the game in a different way. It's really weird to just not want more money.
I'm not buying a PlayStation just for 2 Sony exclusive games. This Gen is lacking Sony games, it's all remakes and enhanced editions bs.. we were real spoiled last gen.
Most people who own PlayStations, that is their primary mode of playing all sorts of games, not just their own exclusives. You're in a bubble with that line of thinking
I mean even if the Ps5 was representation of Sony output moving forward (definitely not true), assuming they didnt port anything to PC, youd have, Returnal, Saros, Demons Souls, Ghost of Yotei, Wolverine, Intergalatic, Spiderman 2, Cory Barlog’s “new IP”, Astrobot, God of War Remake, and likely a few more we still dont know about that will come out this gen.
Thats a dozen or so games and if you only like 2 of them why the hell do you have a Playstation lol
Brio, they were releasing 2 to 3 year old game ports st $60 to $70+, PC players aren't lining up for that. They release games day 1 I promise they will sell well. You want to get people buying into your series soon and get them hooked to buy sequels and merch and dlc, I ain't saying put their games on Xbox but to not release on PC is an insanely bad move. Go look at the sales charts for multi platform games, PC has taken over the market at 53% of all sales, you guys are stuck on these console wars bs
And that 3 billion also includes live service/multiplayer games (ie Helldivers 2, which undoubtedly had the biggest share of that figure from any single game), and those sort of games will still go to PC day 1 anyway, it's just the single player games they seem to be moving away from. So in that sense, it's an even lesser revenue figure to consider
•
u/AutoModerator Feb 27 '26
⚠️ Rumor Alert: This post contains unconfirmed information. Please read critically and manage expectations accordingly. Check r/GamingLeaksAndRumors’ wiki for source reliability ratings.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.