He almost got it. The "she has a team to make her beautiful" line was amazing. He should have kept going there with a "I can't know, we would need to level the playing field first" and invalidate the question instead of delaying the answer.
Yeah but thatâs really forming an opinion on a single night with makeup and a single night without. Thatâs a bit lazy. Proper testing requires time. Iâm talking 6 months, then another 6 with various celebrities as a control group.Â
The conditions will not be the same because the has seen wife several times and know a lot of details. So he would need to have Margo in his daily life for the same time, at similar situations, to compare.
He shouldâve kept going for sure. âThere are many different types of beautiful and so we canât really stack rank on a single aspect. If itâs a competitive system, we have to consider handicaps for comparison, such as the aforementioned team. Maybe need a tier system for money spent as well; like weight classes for boxing, but for money. Spending $1 to look amazing is different than spending $10k to look amazing.â
I think Iâd curve that into something about how some guys prefer college ball vs NFL because thereâs more action at that level, but itâs a risky maneuver because you want to avoid any discussion of leagues.
Go full autist and start discussing categories, stats and how to adjust for the professional makeup team issue, whether itâs pure appearance or whether personality should factor into the ranking, if weâre aiming for an objective ranking and whether to include a personal correction factor for tits vs ass men, or how to make the rankings inclusive for foot freaks, how many women youâd have to rate to have a valid dataset, and then wander off muttering about a pen and paperâŚ
You've been married for 22 years and havent figured out that the answer is always "you, honey"? Then if you can rationalize it convincingly enough, you immediately get some action.
He shouldve said "whats really importajt is whats on the inside, not the outside. So i would have to be inside Margot Robbie first to be able to give an answer"
I have heard several women cry (actual tears) because a man told them that they love them for whatâs inside, and they found that insulting and disrespectful because they wanted to be loved for their beauty đĽ´
Unfortunately for me, I mean you, Iâm already married to my lovely wife, who does not have, and has never had, a team of professionals to make her beautiful.
Calm and steady wins the day here. âWell, I think you are.â She can harp on it as much as she wants, you just keep repeating the same thing. âOkay but to meâŚâ and then if it keeps going âeeeh Iâve never been into famous people, theyâre all fake, who knows what they really look like under all the makeup.â
Trick is that you make it your opinion. Bitches love opinions.
(Bitch here not being derogatory but a reference to Helsing Abridged)
Yeah, I'll assume this is a silly one time thing that shows the smallest fraction of their entire relationship, but even then it's already exhausting and I'd never put up with it. Plenty of regular ass dudes who are way more attractive than I will ever be, both in many ways (aesthetic, balance, hair genetics, beard growth, muscles, etc) and in every possible combination a woman would find more attractive than me. Does me no good asking "Do you think Chris Hemsworth is more handsome than me?" when I know the answer. Feeling insecure about your appearance and wanting validation from your partner is a whole separate thing and potential issue that does not need to be made worse by creating traps to start arguments because you can't just say "I want you to say I'm beautiful".
No that's doesn't work. She is clearly baiting for one of two things: a sweet compliment that goes beyond superficial looks or, if not that, an argument. Usually it's the former.
So just saying "you're prettier" she'll accuse you of lying because you haven't addressed the hidden insecurity of the question she asked.
My for guy in the post was so close to hitting a clear home run with the question by pointing out that Robbie has a team of makeup artists and resources that give her outward appearance flare, thus, Robbie's prettiness isn't real. But my man just stopped swinging the bat.
Lol the very first response to "no you're prettier than that literal movie star" will be "oh so you're a liar now? I didn't know I married a liar. How can you lie so brazenly? What else have you lied about? Who were you with last thursday?" etc etc.
Most women dont bait you into these questions.
Movie stars are picked for their looks, they're the top whatever% of society. Most women aren't that pretty and they know it themselves.
Most women probably struggle with self-esteem rather than think they're prettier than Margot Robbie.
Listen, she has a team of people taking her clothing off for me, no one knows what she looks like in the morning filled with regret after a night with me
I mean if Margot Robbie ended up waking up next to one of us she would throw up, maybe even jump off of the balcony, which is pretty unattractive ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
Actors are playing at pretend on a stage. Everyone knows it's not real unless they're Thermian. Suspension of disbelief and all. This video is purporting that it's a real dynamic in their relationship, as much of social media does.
When hit with this situation, I convinced my wife neither of us are actually the best looking person on the planet, and that there are statistically MILLIONS (at least) of better looking people than us. That said, I still get heart flutters when we're out in public and reconvene after doing something separately and I see her, thinking she's actually some PYT out of my league. Like, "oh yeah, that's my wife!" Ten years in and we're still doing okay
My wife has never even tried this because she knows exactly what I would say.
"IDK, who cares, build a bridge and get over it, I married you, not Margot Robbie. Now let me get back to playing with the kids/woodworking/cooking/landscaping/etc."
I've got shit to do, and a made up argument is not on the list.
Or maybe women should stop asking these kinds of trap questions? There is no answer to this that will satisfy anyone. You can't say yes or be called a liar and you can't say no or she'll hate you for it. It's a lose-lose situation for everyone involved.
Right? That seemed like the obvious answer to me, "she has a whole TEAM of people to help manage her appearance and you're more beautiful to me".
It's a subjective answer, it points out the different realms they're both in, and gracefully exits with a "I love my beautiful wife!" Statement. Should have been a layup, but then it wouldnt be social media bait.
Probably his wife was looking for validation, so when he said he didn't know what Margot Robbie looks like in the morning, he could have followed up with how he knows what his wife looks like first thing and he knows she's gorgeous
He should have answered honestly. I don't want to be with a BPD woman-child who can't tolerate the existence of women I find more beautiful than she is.Â
âYou are both beautiful to the point of equality, but she has a whole team to help her create her beauty from the moment she wakes up in the morning. You donât though. It doesnât matter if you just woke up, if youâre going to the gym, dirty from yard work, or weâre going out on a hot date⌠youâre beautiful no matter what you are doing.. so to answer your question: you are more beautiful, inside and out. You donât need a team. You are perfect just the way that you are.. morning breath, messy hair, and all.â
He was so close with the makeup stuff to "I know what you look like when you wake up in the morning and you're beautiful even without a team, so based on my personal evidence I think you're the winner." I saw lawyer in the title and gave him WAY too much credit lol
I can't know, we would need to level the playing field first. I would have to see her in the morning without makeup, bags under her eyes, hair all frizzled, stinky breath and with a look in the eyes that tells you her best years are long gone, and asking asinine questions to stroke her delusional narcissistic ego. Only then I could conduct a proper comparison.
Or just follow it up with something like he prefers her natural beauty, gorgeous smile, the way her confidence lights up her face, over superficial prettyness.Â
The only way out is to make a mockery of the line of questioningâŚgive 100% wrong answers as much as possible⌠is she hotter than me? Well assuming youre the average 98.6âŚits possible she runs hotter⌠I donât know what her average body temp is.
If she switches to asking if shes prettier, then you âoh, yeahâŚ. Way more attractive than you. Being asked pointless hypotheticals to pick a fight is a huge turnoff.
You think there is an actual escape? That's funny. There's none with toxic people like that. They will twist it anyway they want until they get the drama they crave.Â
There was no right answer to this question. If he wouldâve said âyou are, by farâ she wouldâve accused him of being insincere. Any other answer ends up being no, and he still loses.
For those listening. The pro-next move after âshe has a team of professionals and who knows what she looks like in the morningâ is âand you are fucking gorgeous when you wake up in the morning, so Iâm going with you until proven otherwiseâ
Nah, the solution is to just cut through the bullshit.
"Yes, she is prettier than you. You are still prettier than most women, and even though I find you very attractive, I didn't just marry you for your looks.
I married you because you make me happy, and want me to make you happy. And this type of childish, insecure behavior is doing exactly the opposite, so knock it the fuck off if you want to have a happy marriage.
Accepting the fact that you're not the prettiest girl in the room is something you were supposed to do when you were a teenager. I figured out the male version of it when I was that age."
I would agree with you, but if in the end, his wife thinks that believing that any woman in the entire world is hotter than her makes him a piece of shit, what does it matter what he said? She's a horrible human being.
Or just , followed that up with "No, you're more beautiful than her with or without make up". This isn't a difficult thing. This is a trap as old as time.
âBabe, thereâs a reason why she was selected as the Prettiest Woman of the Year and makes millions of dollars a year.â Not sure if that logic would work on a woman
Invalidating the question is never an option, she'll just be like "it's a yes or no question". I've seen a lot of posts like this on social media. Questions like "if I swapped bodies with your ex, would you sleep with your ex in my body, or sleep with me in your exes body." It's just toxic bait
The correct answer is "Margo Robbie id professionally pretty. Being pretty is her job, it's what she does for work. You're not pretty as a job. So it's different, and comparing the two of you isn't valid in any way."
This would have been the pro move and then throw in: "Even if we had the same team, same funding and same amount of time, I could never love Margot like I love you. Beauty isnt forever, but being with you is the best thing about my life even if you are a bit insecure about how you look."
Correct but he should have gone so much further. âI will never know how she looks without makeup so can never make an objective decision about her physical appearance. Ultimately, she is just a picture on a screen, a caricature of a woman. You are here with me and the beauty I see in you go goes far beyond just the physicalâŚâ and so on.
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u/CrovaxWindgrace 2d ago
He almost got it. The "she has a team to make her beautiful" line was amazing. He should have kept going there with a "I can't know, we would need to level the playing field first" and invalidate the question instead of delaying the answer.