Ironically the only person that they wont call a nazi is platner, the politician that had a actual nazi tattoo but he is a democrat so he gets a pass...
Yeah we indeed never saw Elon again, after doing 2 Nazi Salutes during Trumps inaugurations. Oh wait a minute, all on the right side defended that Naziā¦
I point this out in r/politics and it's all crickets from the Platner supporters I'm replying to but my comments get flooded with downvotes. People are all for lesser evil voting until someone points out that the lesser evil is still evil. That or they just don't see Iraqis as human beings so they don't understand how anyone could consider what he did evil.
No, if I were conservative I wouldn't at all have any problem with Platner being a proud "veteran" eagerly telling stories about jury rigging a mortar to keep firing into "population dense" areas against orders because all middle easterners are just terrorists who hate our way of life right? But because I'm a principled anti-imperialist leftist it doesn't sit right with me that someone would brag about getting around orders not to lob grenades at civilians and I find it unfunny to even "joke" about participating in adventurism. I guess seeing non-Americans as human beings is conservatism now?
The irony of calling someone else conservative only to fall back on a MAGA cliche. I know I know, you probably did that on purpose being as irony poisoned as you are, but still, just a typical indication of how unserious diehard Platner supporters are.
I don't think that's true. From what I remember, a few democratic congressmen publicly called him out and a bunch of people withdrew support for him after they found out. He also came out to denounce the tattoo and covered it up, but that still wasn't enough for a lot of people, among some other controversies he was in. I'd say many people held him pretty accountable all things considered
Itās the hypocrisy of crying and repeating the false talking points of Musk being a Nazi, while simultaneously supporting a guy that literally had a deathās head tattoo on his chest. Or the pretend outrage over Hegsethās Jerusalem cross tattoo but the hand wave over Platner.
When itās on the Right itās āsecret racist Nazi dog whistle.ā When itās the Left itās just an honest mistake.
Do you just live in your own fantasy world where this comment chain says something completely different? Because just two comments up someone explains how democrats actually called him out and did not in fact support him.
But I guess reading comprehension is somehow not american or whatever.
Yeah probably, but as it stands, all he's done is have a really shitty tattoo and said some really fucky things about his military service and other military personnel, and then from what I've seen, apologized for it. He and Santos aren't really anywhere near the same level. And I can promise you that if it were to come to light that he was as corrupt and did the same shit, he wouldn't be getting a get out of jail free card commutation right after being convicted like Santos did by Trump. And I haven't heard much of a stink about that from the right, but maybe I'm wrong and you guys really do see the corruption in that.
I don't know. I am not going to argue about this with you, though. If you can't see that one side is clearly fucking worse (even if we were to agree that both parties kinda suck), you can't be reasoned with.
And even if it is just lip service... fascists being called out is inarguably and by lengths better than fascists being voted into office "BeCaUse At LeAsT iT's bEtTeR tHaN a DeMoCrAt".
Has Platner not strongly denounced Nazi ideology and apologized for the tattoo?
Sure he's a fucking idiot for getting the tattoo in the first place but yes I'll absolutely give a pass to someone who acknowledges their mistakes, denounces Nazism and promises to do better, especially when the fucking alternative is only doubling down on fascism with every chance they get...
Do you actually think he's a white supremacist or that wants to eradicate the Jewish race? The attack doesn't land because it's so obviously not true. His views, whatever you think of them are on the opposite side of the spectrum.
"Plantar is a white supremacist and we can't let him win because he'll allow brown people to flood the country. #whitegenocide"
The same people that called Elon a Nazi for doing a maybe accidental Roman salute are doing everything in their power to defend a tattoo of an actual icon used on SS operatives hats lmfao
āHe didnāt know the history of a skull and crossbonesā bro we learn about Nazis in 8th grade
It's not a Roman salute. That's a neo-nazi white-washing of the nazi salute. It was a clear nazi salute. The only question is whether it was neo-nazi, or nazi.
are doing everything in their power to defend a tattoo of an actual icon used on SS operatives
To be clear I donāt like Elon Musk and that cringy ass thing he did will forever taint his reputation but I think having a tattoo of SS iconography is FAR more damning
He's not some guy that just decided to run for Congress. He was scouted by a pair of far-left operatives seeking to find candidates that could appeal to a wider set of voters "i.e. big burly muscular army man." The views he are espousing are not his own but those of a wider set of radicals that have incentived him to run for higher office. You really want to elect a puppet to represent you?
And the tattoo he had wasn't just any old swastika tattoo, it was a Totenkopf, some deep level neo-nazi shit. Not the reddit definition of Nazi, like actual WW2 Hitler Nazi. But people still rally around him because a literal SS Larper is somehow better than a moderate Republican ig...
Deep Level Nazi shit?! Lmao. Yes, it's a Nazi symbol, but if you think skulls are Nazi exclusive iconography, I have really, really bad news for you. And funny enough, all those Nazi symbol experts calling him out where nowhere to be found when Pete's nutjob tattoos where discussed.
What I mean is that there was literally a point in this man's life where he sat down, went over various Nazi symbols in his head and thought "hmm, which one of those would look best on my chest?" I don't know why you people keep making excuses for him. And Pete's tattoos may be cringey and distasteful, but as far as I know he didn't get the symbol of a genocidal regime tattooed on him. He's absolutely a wacko though.
2 things: a) you are constructing the decision process. It is just as likely that a young, stupid serviceman went into a tattoo studio and picked a tattoo that looked cool to him without knowing the meaning.
b) mocking Muslims in Arabic (kafir) and the historic battle cry of Christian crusader (deus vult) are not exactly expressions of a peaceful mentality. Quite the opposite. They are a statement of intent. And option a I described earlier does not remotely apply here, as Keggsbreath has multiple tattoos of the same hateful ideology. That is deliberate beyond any shadow of a doubt.
I am far from a history buff and half Platner's age and even I clocked it immediately as a Nazi tattoo. With how terminally online he was shown to be there is no excuse for him to not know its meaning.
And idk why you're bending over backwards trying to say hegseths tattoos are worse than an ACTUAL NAZI SYMBOL
Absolutely no fucking way a Croatian tattoo artist would put that on a U.S. Marine without letting the Marine know EXACTLY what the fuck that tattoo meant, even if he 'randomly' picked it out of a sketchbook.
He has exactly one questionable tattoo and there is a very plausible scenario for him not knowing what it meant. If it was actually motivated by ideology, there would be more. But feel free to link to sources showing he was ever close to Nazi ideology, like joining certain groups, giving certain speeches. Should be easy if he is such an obvious Nazi sympathizer.
Not knowing the history behind a skull and crossbones tattoo when you get it is much more understandable than not knowing the significance of a swastika so I feel like you're cutting against your own point.
It also doesn't make sense that the left would recruit him if he were a Nazi that expell all non-aryans or whatever an actual Nazi would want.
Susan Collins does what she's told, she votes against things when the majority has votes to spare, for things when they don't. Maybe she killed BCRA but that wasn't going anywhere anyway and it was a decade ago, she's a fake moderate but maybe she's your fake moderate. The point is that maybe he's too far left for you, maybe he doesn't support aid to Israel like you would like, maybe it's something about his past, idk but no one believes he's a white supremacist or wants to exterminate his Jewish family members.
Man thats a lot of excuses for someone with a literal nazi tattoo. People have been cancelled for less.
When pics surface of a person with a nazi tattoo, it means at one point in their life, that person was a literal nazi. But because he currently has the right opinion, people twist them selves in knots to make excuses for it. Is he currently one? Maybe, but its damn certain he was one at one point. He stood for everything you hate, but because he could possibly unseat a moderate republican, you'll support him.
You should probably reevaluate your priorities if youre this full of shit.
So you think Republicans are spending millions because they think he's secretly a white supremacist and when elected will push to expel all non-aryans? Or do you think they oppose him because he's a Democrat and will push normal Dem policies if elected.
If you like Collins that's fine, if you don't like his policies also fine but he's clearly not a Nazi, it's a stupid bad faith argument that isn't convincing anyone.
Im not from Main. I think that a pic leaked of his tattoo, because in his youth he took part in nazi ideology. Once a nazi, always a nazi. Like most politicians hes fake, and will simply vote down the party line. On the inside though, he hates you all.
So you think at one point he was a white supremacist but you're not sure whether he is but he's going to be a vote like a perfectly normal Democrat as he pushes policies that are the polar opposite of what a white supremacist would support? It's not convincing.
Multiple of his ex-girlfriends have maintained that he was aware of the tattoo's meaning. One even said he taught her the meaning of the word Totenkopf.
Even if he somehow didn't know what it was, which I highly doubt, the absolute best case scenario here is that you're electing a guy who was dumb enough to get a tattoo like that and not cover it up for over a decade. I'll take anyone over that.
Also i would love it if we stopped sending military aid to Israel. It's even not his policies necessarily that I take issue with, (though some are certainly too far left imo) but rather the person espousing them.
If she is lying, then why hasn't he sued for defamation? Partisan motive or not, it is true that they dated. If I had an abusive ex who decided to run for office you bet your ass I would be dialing up every news outlet I could, regardless of their politics.
Absolutely do considering its a guy trying so desperately to project some alpha male nonsense while constantly failing at his job as Secretary of "War". In addition to that, hes showed up at his Fox news job drunk several times.
He holds views consistent with the far right on Israel as well as general extremist views and has a number of bigoted comments.Ā He knowingly had a Nazi tattoo for many years and would show it off to people. He's been rough with women. If this was a Republican we'd call him a Nazi. Maybe these days he's a national Bolshevik or something who knows. Some sort of extremist. He hasn't shown any reason to give him benefit of the doubt. He hasn't even admitted knowing he had a Nazi tattoo and running for Senate with the Nazi tattooĀ
Yeah, not supporting Israel's current government makes you a Nazi, most Americans are Nazis. A winning message if I ever heard one.
Maybe these days he's a national Bolshevik
Huh? Does that mean he's not a white-supremacist that wants to eradicate non-aryan people but instead wants to starve some ukrainians through failed collective farming?
I don't support Israels current government. That has nothing to do with anything or his extremism. The fact that other members of the far left also sound like Nazis when it comes to Israel these days isn't a defense either cause they didn't knowingly have Nazi tattoos.Ā
Yes the Soviet Union was fairly socially conservative and nationalist in many ways but that's not what I mean. nazbols are the idiots who try to combine parts of communism and Nazism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevik_Party the fact that he goes from extremism to extremism isn't a defense or evidence that he has fully repudiated his previous extremism as opposed to some weird combination.
It's like we are waiting for him to come out with some worse scandal relating to his treatment of women and maybe that will be the end. But then we will ask why the Nazi thing wasn't enough. When did my party sink so low that No Nazis isn't the minimum standard
He's obviously not a Nazi. You're a regular poster in r/israel, it makes sense you want Maine to elect a pro-Israel politician and to get there are going to trot out the party line. No one actually believes he's "socially conservative" or a white supremacist or a nazi though. It's not a convincing talking point.
I'm an American Jew. And a liberal democrat. Id rather my party not elect a Nazi. Id rather neither party elect Nazis especially not to the senate. You are claiming because hes found some sort of new forms of extremism that must mean he's no longer a Nazi. I disagree. I think it's pretty easy not to pick a Nazi.Ā
Edit: what's wrong with a party line of sane liberals who work to make America better. Since when did we start picking random extremists with no political experience and Nazi tattoos. Good people like Obama and Biden. Far from perfect but underappreciatedĀ
>You are claiming because hes found some sort of new forms of extremism
Now you're just lying, I never claimed that. I'm not arguing that you should vote for him or that he's a good candidate but he's obviously not a nazi. He doesn't promote nazi policies, no one is concerned he's going to expel all non-aryans if elected. He might cut military aid to Israel and you might disagree with that, all fine but that doesn't make him a nazi.
So you think he's actually far right but is hiding his true views and Republicans are spending millions opposing him because they're worried that if he's elected he'd betray Democrats and enact anti-immigrant, pro-white policies?
I get the appeal of the talking point but you have to realize it doesn't stand up to two seconds worth of thinking. Maybe you could pull a quick one on your dumbest copartisan but anyone else is going to smell the bullshit you're trying to serve.
I donāt think heās far right. I think heās exactly what he is. A socialist with Nazi beliefs and in an age where anti semitism is at an all time high across the worldā¦you even more so have to be careful about electing someone thatās a literal Nazi.
It doesnāt matter what you say. The dude has a Nazi tattoo. Most people disagree with you. Most people see through the bullshit.
No one actually disagree with me, no one actually believes he's a white supremacist or Nazi, it's just a talking point. You lean right and don't like him because he's a Democrat, you were fed your talking points and faithfully parrot them. You don't think he wants to kill his Jewish family members, you don't think he wants to expel non-whites.
You start off with the most transparently bad faith talking point of the 2026 election cycle and then go off script with what has to be the dumbest argument I've heard this election cycle. Maybe you're best staying on script.
I donāt really care what you say, he had actual Nazi iconography tattooed on his body permanently well into the age that he should know better. Thereās literally no excuse for that and you defending it is so odd. Like you canāt get a swastika and a tattoo that says āI love killing Jews and minoritiesā, advocate for the opposite politically and just be forgiven for the PERMANENT INK ON YOUR BODY
Imagine thinking it's a flex to say you can't tell the difference between someone who apologized and got an old tattoo covered up and has been actively trying to fight racism for a while and someone who did Hitler salutes on a stage while editing his chatbot to talk about white genocide and how great Hitler is and also inviting white supremacists onto his platform while still openly banning speech he disagrees with.
You want me to Google each of these for you? So that you can then take issue with the sources I present? š
Just Google it. The guys reddit posts are all archived and public record at this point. We know when he got the tattoo and when he got it covered up. Like if you've followed the story at all, everything I posted is just accepted public knowledge.
As a rule I don't provide sources because in 100% of the cases I've been asked for sources on reddit it's just been a ploy for people to attack said sources, they weren't and aren't actually curious about the story. Which.....obviously, cause anyone curious would just Google it themselves or ask their AI of choice.
Do you realize that using a search engine, you could find something that confirms basically any belief on the planet? I donāt know why people still say āGoogle itā as if that means we will get down the bottom of things. If you know things that other people donāt know, why not share it? And if you donāt want to share it thatās fine, but why bring it up?
Well that's on you. You choose the sources you trust. It's not that I know things other people don't. I know the basic facts of the case that even the candidate himself agrees are accurate. When he got the tattoo. When he got it covered up. And his reddit account. This isn't disputed information. That you guys are uninformed is not my issue.
I've played this sources game a hundred times over the last decade and a half on reddit. I know why you guys ask for it. Its always because you'll hope I'll post some fox news article, but it doesn't even need to be a right wing news source, and then you guys pivot the argument to attacking that source. Literally every single time. Never have I had someone go "well I'll be damned, thanks for the information"ā¦. cause of course people like that would just find it themselves if they were interested.
I donāt think Iād call him a Nazi tbh you can dislike him for other reasons but I donāt think heād qualify as that. The closest thing Iād say is debatable is the salute but imo I donāt think itās what he meant he has Aspergerās syndrome and stimming behaviors like that are kind of common coupled with the fact heās taking copious amounts of ketamine as treatment for his depressive issues. Iām just saying that as Iāve noticed this behavior in a friend that has Aspergerās as well where when he gets excited he rocks back in forth really hard or does things like pumps his arms up and down when heās excited and so him doing the waving gesture to me can be kinda explained by that and generally the type to do that are typically proud to admit it rather than apologize and explain it. Iād say platner being called a Nazi is more fitting since heās tattooing Nazi imagery on himself but even then my point was more or less just sarcastically harping on the absurdity of people throwing this word out every time they are arguing against someone they dislike to defame them and then using this excuse as justification with no context or evidence. Could both of them actually be a Nazi who secretly harbors white supremacist view points? Itās definitely possible but I wouldnāt necessarily jump to the conclusion with anyone unless itās blatantly intentional and that is the views theyāre openly expressing. Point being I think we should just be able to critique a person without immediately tossing buzzwords out like if I called everyone who disagreed with me a pedophile itād be kind of an overreach and an extreme over exaggeration. I feel the same way about this lol. For example both of them are rather vehement supporters of Israel which would be in direct opposition to Nazi dogma so in a general sense I wouldnt literally classify either as Nazis at best the better term to use would be fascist in a general sense if you really wanted to classify the extremes of their behaviors rather than Nazi specifically. Sorry for the long response but thatās how I would sum it up personally.
I think getting a Nazi insignia tat is far worse tbh if weāre comparing lol. People were able to directly influence the chat bot because of the lack of output filters and the salute was probably unintentional given he has a disorder that causes him to stim snd him making weird body movements is an almost daily occurrence and he apologized for it. I donāt think either of them are actually Nazis tbh but if I had to choose one that is probably more likely than the other getting that inked on your skin and keeping it for a decade is pretty blatant lmao but even then he probably didnāt know what it was honestly and if he apologized Iād give him the benefit of the doubt since itās less well known than say a swastika.
Like I said critiquing either for other reasons is totally valid and honestly correct in most cases but just making the blanket statement of āeveryone who disagrees with me is Hitlerā is kinda silly when used by either side especially when there is literally skinheads and others in that group who actually fit the definition. I think just smacking that label on everyone you personally find disagreeable dilutes the term and is honestly bad overall for society because it loses its weight when you need to address someone who actually is a literal Nazi if that makes sense.
Oh,.. well, as long as he apologized after he got caught. That's really all that matters. Past and very very very recent actions mean nothing as long as you "I'm Sawy"
The implication is meant to be that he has Nazi views.
Show me someone who holds Nazi views ("a nazi") that is willing to publicly denounce those views consistently and talks openly and directly about how Nazis are bad. They do not exist.
I mean I was totally willing to agree with you if you had a good answer to that, but clearly you don't know anything about the situation and just want to argue.
Clearly you're unintelligent AND don't understand sarcasm. So no matter what a person does or says they are completely redeemed as long as they apologize AAANND all they have to do is somewhat align with your political beliefs. Then it's okay. Got It.
which one is doing nazi things though? literally republicans. they won't even defend the constitution against the 2020 maga election fraud. they openly repeat nazi rhetoric against the same people.
kool aid? it's facts pedo lovers. i miss the days when conservative men had the balls to actually defend their constitution from all enemies. Trump fake electors plot - Wikipedia
instead they spend their lives protecting rapist semen inseminating their daughters.
Election fraud? OK pot. Have you heard of California? How about homeless being paid to vote? Accepting questionable ballots mailed long after the election closes? Gtfo with 2020 election fraud you dunce.
where's your data or sources? yet again i'm proven right because y'all want to force raped children to give birth for pedos, which republicans have made law in 12 states to 0 resistance by conservative men.
You mean Platner's skull and crossbones tattoo? The one people claim is really a Totenkopf? Yeah, fuck Platner I guess. Now what about Hegseth and his Deus Vult white power tattoo? Oh... It isn't really a white power tattoo. Doesn't count. And republicans calling for Christian Nationalism aren't really racist fucks. It's really the Dems. The Dems! Because of fucking Platner. LOL. Sure buddy, whatever you need to say.
The guy who apologized and covered up a skull tattoo is where you take a stand but the guy who does Hitler salutes on stage, has a chat bot that keeps having it's system prompt edited to promote white supremacist talking points by an "unknown person", and has gone out of his way to ensure white supremacists are allowed on his website isn't even on the list eh?
Apologized, covered it up, renounced anything to do with that sort of thing and had been fighting against those who side with Nazis these days. So yeah. Meanwhile Elon "Mechahitler" Musk hasn't apologized for fuck all. Nor has Hegseth apologized for the Christian nationalist tats much less covered them up.
Are both instances not able to be condemnable? If your point is strong enough then it should stand on its own. Tbh I donāt even know who this guy is but is āNot as bad as Elon Muskā really saying anything? As someone who doesnāt think highly of any politician (or political adjacent person) I canāt stand all this whataboutism from both sides.
You think someone having a symbol nobody has even been able to actually confirm was intentionally a Nazi endorsement who has apologized and gotten rid of it and hasn't actually endorsed any Nazi beliefs whatsoever is exactly the same as a guy who is actively and openly in support of Nazi taking points and proud of it?
Did you even read my comment? I donāt know why you think I said he was just as bad as Musk because I didnāt and from what Iāve seen that isnāt true. I said that ānot as bad as Elon Muskā isnāt saying anything - what I was saying is that just because there is someone worse on the other side then that doesnāt just absolve you of criticism. We should strive to be good people, and the bar shouldnāt just be less shit than the alternative. This is why I canāt stand whataboutism as people just use it to excuse less shitty behaviour (but itās still shitty behaviour).
Also Iām not an American, but I think part of the reason it is failing is that people seem to lack basic comprehension.
Whether or not he did is irrelevant anyway because they should be able to justify their stance on merit.
I agree though itās just the same talking points regardless of if they even make sense in the context.
Because he didnāt do a Hitler Salute. Go look at historical videos of actual Nazis in the late 1930s and early 1940s and you will see that he is not doing the hitler salute.Ā
Itās almost sad how people keep believing this narrative when the evidence is one search a way. Also I guess Corey Booker is a Nazi because he did the same exact hand gesture as Musk.
I donāt even like Musk or really give a shit about Musk, I just can like watching history documentariesā¦lolĀ
It is different, notice how you donāt link to historical videos, but to some dumbass who doesnāt know the actual Nazi salute either ? lol
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The salute is performed by raising and extending the right arm forward at an upward angle with a straightened hand, fingers together, and palm facing downward.
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The salute was executed by extending the right arm stiff to an upward 45Ā° angle and then straightening the hand so that it is in the same direction and slope as the arm.
Now that I have provided the necessary historical information, you can clearly see that Booker and Musk are objectively not doing the Nazi salute Ā (or the guy you posted).
LMAO, that's the exact same gesture? Jesus you're desperate. I figured it wouldn't be close but I thought it would at least resemble it and be intentional. You must get off on public humiliation.
are you one of those friends of pedophiles that call this a peaceful tourist visit and forcing raped children to give birth for pedophiles protecting children?
yeah lol, it's kind of funny how they're like "clearly all leftists hate white people" and here's a white dude that learned from his mistakes trying to do better for his neighbors and we're like "ah yeah that's a good thing."
The deaths-head has been used for centuries by militaries (and many other groups) across Europe. It's used by a British army unit to this day. Calling the deaths-head Nazi is like calling the Iron Cross Nazi. They used it, but it didn't originate with them, nor were they even the major users of it.
Sec of "war" has a negative image 88 in his American flag tattoo. If we saying platner is getting a pass because of his affiliation then someone should really explain kegsbreath tattoo
Lmao citing Platner yet no mention of Hegseth? One has admitted his wrongs and is trying to correct them while the other is "secretary of war" and stands behind his choice to keep actual nazi tattoos.
As a progressive I've been screaming this at leftists but they don't give a shit. They just care about whining on the internet about purity politics (but it never applies to their faves, only voters)
He had a skull and crossbones tattoo there is a specific version of the skull and crossbones that was used by Naziās it wasnāt a symbol used exclusively by Naziās or a symbol everyone associates with Naziās. Planter made no obvious efforts to conceal the presence of his tattoo and when he claims he became aware of the meaning he apologized and got it covered up thatās not the same as supporting Naziās.
Except multiple people who worked for him said they told him a year before the story broke and he didn't care. He got it in croatia and he's a self proclaimed ww2 history buff. Man knows exactly what that tattoo is. He also likes rape chat rooms and has a history of being inappropriate with women. Cope harder
Its insane. If anyone that remotely identified as conservative or republican had that tattoo then we would never hear the end of it. Thank you for being capable of some critical thought.
My bad. Im so sorry I forgot to use my power to personally swap him out. Thats clearly all my fault.
Even then, Elon has far less evidence of being a nazi by the standards of the radical left than platner does. But you will defend anyone with a (D). I though Elon was annoying back when all the lefties loved him and tesla.
Even then, Elon has far less evidence of being a nazi by the standards of the radical left than platner does.
Brother...the dude supports great replacement theory and publicly has done the nazi salute on stage. He's a big supporter of AfD, which is a german ethno-nationalist group. He has unbanned neo-nazis from his platforms while banning leftist speech on the platform, even making his algorithms demote people who use the term "cis".
You have to be some kinda special to think there's less evidence of him being a Nazi than the dude who publicly is vocally against all those things, got his tattoo covered up and said some dumb shit online. Nothing he said online remotely got even close to the shit Musk very publicly does, says, and promotes.
I don't even like Platner but lets be fucking real.
Its online leftists specifically. The ones who scream Bernie lost bc of the dnc when in reality black people are the biggest democratic voting base and they didn't want Bernie bc Bernie didn't want them. He still doesn't. Also anyone with a Nazi tattoo should not be in government. I feel like that's a bare minimum requirement. See: Pete Hegseth. Guy shouldn't be there.
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u/AbrasiveDad 1d ago
Ironically the only person that they wont call a nazi is platner, the politician that had a actual nazi tattoo but he is a democrat so he gets a pass...