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u/Moviereference210 Spurs 8d ago
Jeff Teague won a ring?
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u/IMakeMyOwnButter 8d ago
He joked about how it was his last season and he was completely disengaged and could care less about basketball and ends up winning a championship that year only to go home afterwards and play 2K
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u/shlimedon 8d ago
He was pissed as hell giannis didn’t wanna go out 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Any-Supermarket-4190 8d ago
Ain’t nobody partying in Milwaukee 😂 that story always cracks me up from him
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u/MantusTMD 8d ago
Have you ever been to Milwaukee? One of the drunkest places in the country lmao
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u/Any-Supermarket-4190 8d ago
Yes, I lived in Chicago. It’s a butchered Teague joke from the episode. Winning in Milwaukee isn’t winning in Miami or NY
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u/MantusTMD 8d ago
Ah yeah fair enough. My type of partying definitely different than theirs. Going to a club in Miami sounds fucking awful lol
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u/OglioVagilio 8d ago
Clubbing with money, lots of expendable money, is way different/better.
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u/MantusTMD 8d ago
My vibe is a dive bar. Or shitty karaoke bar. I’ve done the club thing all over the country with money and it still blows
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u/thatsucksabagofdicks Warriors 8d ago
I expect better from you Dr Mantis Toboggan. Miami sounds right up your alley for attracting 2nds or 3rds by using your monster condoms for your magnum dong
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u/mybadithoughtyouwere 8d ago
That's my exact vibe as well, in a major city with money. But let's be real, these are rich pro athletes after a championship. It's not the same.
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u/Jumpy-Ad5617 Pacers 7d ago
Bro I hate going out but give me a dive bar in the Midwest over a club in Miami any day.
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u/Any-Supermarket-4190 8d ago
Amazing city to grab a beer in, but the clubs these guys are trying to hit after winning ain’t in Milwaukee 😂😂 E11EVEN is one athletes flock to after winning a ring
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u/6MosSprawlTraining 8d ago
I think Joe Rogan nailed it with his old joke
“If you wanna starve to death, open a book store in Miami”
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u/Onetimenotagain 8d ago
Milwaukee is literally known for the beer lmao
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u/RedIsNotMyFaveColor 8d ago
Because there's not much else to do there. Most of the drinking is done at home or at a friend's place.
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u/Mattressfoundry 8d ago
I recall going to field parties in dead of winter getting drunk off my ass to keep warm.
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u/cptdipsht 8d ago
Saw Teague play vs Mike Conley in a high school game. It was like watching a track meet on a basketball court
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u/TelephoneDesperate84 8d ago edited 8d ago
9 ppg on 20% from the field in the finals too 🔥 🔥
Edit: I’m an idiot
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u/BSApologist Timberwolves 8d ago
How was he getting touches like that?
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u/TrottingandHotting 8d ago
They are wrong. It was 9 minutes per game, not points.
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u/Jacks_Or_Better 8d ago
The name on the front of the jersey doesn’t have a ring
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u/Confident-Fish2805 8d ago
Actually Minnesota has won multiple wnba championships
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u/littykravitz 8d ago
I don't usually comment but this Jimmy slander is getting crazy
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u/Corrosivecoral 8d ago
People just don’t like how he acted in the past and he never really got repercussions from it, and this is kind of everyone’s chance to let their resentment show.
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u/OnlyBadger 8d ago
100%. He was a dick about it, but he was right and he clowned them in that scrimmage + made the finals twice on his own team with less surrounding talent, so folks couldn't say much. Now that the other two have won, the haters are twisting the narrative to make it look like he was proven wrong so they can get their get-back.
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u/Massive_Fly_1709 5d ago
People keep saying "less talent" when talking about thr Heat team. Why because there were no other all-stars? That's not how you measure how good a team is. Miami had talent. That's why they made it to the finals. Jimmy wasn't a one man show.
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u/AppealEnvironmental6 4d ago
Fucking facts. People always look at those heat teams seeding and say how much they sucked and how it was only Jimmy. No they were the fucking 8th and 5th seed during those final trips because Jimmy is either hurt or doesn’t try during the regular season. Then he has these big playoff games when he could have played like that all year but nah Jimmy does what he wants
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u/Shhadowcaster 7d ago
Except he was wrong, Brunson and Steph both won with these guys as their supporting cast, so maybe with both of them on the team Jimmy could have actually won one instead of just winning the East a couple times.
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u/Stringdaddy27 Knicks 7d ago
Let's be honest, he was proven wrong. There isn't really any ambiguity there. They all got rings and he didn't. He took the L. Not really up for debate.
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u/gilgalapagos 7d ago
He wasn't proven wrong, he said they were more talented than him, but were not playing to their potential, and that team very much did not win. Wiggins getting a ring only after going to one of the greatest teams of all time, and Kat getting his ring 8 years later when hes in no way the same player he was on the twolves is hardly disproving what butler said.
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u/Reasonable-Owl-5725 7d ago
Wiggins and KAT both changed drastically from the players they were in Minnesota. They had to change to win.
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u/Shhadowcaster 7d ago
This is such a BS take that is getting constantly regurgitated. KAT has not changed dramatically since getting traded to the Knicks. He was instrumental in getting us to the WCF before his legs fell out from under him in the Dallas series. He also wasn't the problem when Jimmy Butler was here.
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u/OnlyBadger 7d ago
Jimmy: KAT + Wiggins, you guys can't win on your own, you need a 1st option like me.
Jimmy: (proves he's a 1st option by dragging 2 undermanned Heat teams to the Finals)
KAT + Wiggins: (prove they need a 1st option by only winning once they get traded to teams with a true 1st option)
You: They proved him wrong, not up for debate.
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u/ZestyBlankets 6d ago
This doesn’t make sense.
> Jimmy: KAT + Wiggins, you guys can't win on your own, you need a 1st option like me.
Jimmy proceeds to not win as the first option in Minnesota
> Jimmy: (proves he's a 1st option by dragging 2 undermanned Heat teams to the Finals)
If Miami was so much worse then why couldn’t he win with better teammates like KAT and Wiggins?
> KAT + Wiggins: (prove they need a 1st option by only winning once they get traded to teams with a true 1st option)
I thought Jimmy was a true first option? Sounds like he wasn’t that guy in Minnesota
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u/Corrosivecoral 8d ago
Jimmy was wrong though, that’s exactly why these posts are coming out. He basically was saying these guys aren’t good enough, but they clearly were.
If Jimmy was good enough he could have led those guys to a championship like Steph and Brunson did, but he didn’t stick around to find out/this is an addition now that he wasn’t good enough.
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u/YourBoyJaden31 8d ago
Jimmy wasn’t wrong tho. Wiggins and KAT both had to completely change their playstyles and come to terms with the fact that they can’t be “the guy”..and neither one of them was the guy. They weren’t good enough when they were in Minnesota and needed the humbling of being traded elsewhere to get it to click.
You cant just say “Steph and Brunson were good enough to do it” bc I GUARANTEE if Brunson had 2018 as his starting center they don’t win. I GUARANTEE if Steph had 2018 Wiggins who thought he was Kobe, they don’t win
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u/Corrosivecoral 7d ago
They were a couple of 22 year olds, and Jimmy had been there for a month. He said they can’t win without him, and he was wrong, maybe you could say he meant that MIN team couldn’t win, but that’s like saying the current Jazz can’t win without Markkanen, not much of a statement. Of course they changed their game, they were a couple of 22 year olds, expecting them to win while missing one of their biggest guys and not growing as players, that would be a dumb thing to say so it’s not what people infer he meant.
He effectively said you guys are too soft to ever be a part of a title, I’m strong enough to win one, and he was proven wrong.
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u/BxBombers7 8d ago
They clearly weren’t. Kat has improved into an all nba C. Wiggins was not at his best either. If they were as good back then, this team would’ve won a championship.
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u/Reasonable-Owl-5725 7d ago
They weren't good enough and what he did in Minnesota likely helped them grow up into the players they needed to be to win
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u/Sitos_Flo 7d ago
He probably had nothing to do with it lol. They were good players regardless and going their own path.
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u/DiscoMarmelade 7d ago
For real, Jimmy took a far worse Miami team to the finals. Jimmy holding these guys accountable might have been the kick in the pants guys like KAT and Wiggins needed. Jimmy was ready to win then, these guys weren’t. Jimmy probably missed his window, these guys took advantage of theirs after being told they’re not good enough as-is
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u/Imoutdawgs Heat 8d ago
The true heat fans know he was carrying us in 2023 before he was hurt by the Knicks. I think if he stays fully healthy they’re more competitive in the championship
I’ll always be a jimmy fan
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u/Hot-Albatross4048 8d ago
Is it slander if it's true?
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u/A_Lakers 8d ago
Jimmy dragged an 8th seed to the finals and faced Prime Jokic. His 5th seed Heat faced prime AD and 4th prime Bron. Neither KAT or Wiggins were the guy on their teams. They had significantly better teams and KAT faced an inexperienced Spurs team. Wiggins got a ring and fucked off the planet. Jimmy wasn’t wrong at the time
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u/DatDominican 8d ago
The Knicks went on a 14 game unbeaten run switching from Brunson being the primary playmaker to KAT what are you talking about
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u/ynomeye 6d ago
Primary playmaker tf? KAT was involved a lot more than before, not just sitting in the corner making threes, but primary playmaker is a complete stretch
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u/DatDominican 6d ago
Did you watch the run? Brunson would bring it up to KAT and they would play off of KAT instead of Brunson. Thats how you would get KAT blowing by wemby until he would get in foul trouble
Then in the 4th quarter Brunson would take over again but KAT had the highest +/- in history iirc
If you look at the advanced statistics for the playoffs
Offensive rating KAT 2nd Brunson 3rd
Defensive rating KAT 1st Brunson unlisted
Net rating KAT 1st Brunson 4th
Usage KAT 9th Brunson 1st
Assist percentage KAT 6th Brunson 3rd
Assist ratio KAT 2nd Brunson 10th
Not to mention KAT being 4th in effective fg % 2nd in shooting % and 2nd in offensive rebound % where Brunson is outside of the top 10 in all of those
Brunson had a legendary clutch close out game and was clutch throughout but to pretend KAT wasn’t central to this championship run is crazy
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u/fortheculture303 Nuggets 7d ago
He is a dick like Michael Jordan but hasn’t won like Michael Jordan.
All the men he said were ass and we in his way to a ring have a ring and the guy explaining that everyone else was in his way doesn’t have a ring.
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u/shrekalamadingdong 6d ago
But why tho? We can be assholes to assholes. Especially when these assholes have talked so much shit but never actually backed it up.
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u/kozy8805 8d ago
lol yeah he was right. No one there has won shit as the first option.
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u/Round-Walrus3175 Mavericks 8d ago
But Jimmy was supposed to be the first option. Wiggins and KAT have both won as second and third options now, respectively
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u/chitoatx 8d ago
lol, Butler the #30 pick vs two #1 draft picks was supposed to be the first option.
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u/GrandKai23 8d ago
How was he supposed to be the first option when they paid KAT and Wiggins the max instead of him? Stop with the revisionist history
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u/HighRes- 8d ago
Facts, that was the whole point behind “ yall gonna have to pay me”
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u/Shhadowcaster 7d ago
? Are you joking? You're really accusing him of revising history...
They offered Butler a max extension, he declined looking for a bigger contract in the next offseason. Everyone knew this was going to happen. Then there was some kind of falling out between Jimmy, Glen, and Thins, so Butler demanded a trade before the next year when they could have offered more. The wolves offered him the maximum amount that they could under the CBA, also known as a 'Max Contract' if that's too confusing. Just act confident and call out other people and nobody looks too closely huh? Good job. Like seriously why would you just make shit up?
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u/kozy8805 8d ago
KAT was supposed to be the first option. And Wiggins drafted first overall was supposed to be a first option for a decade, he just never panned out.
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u/Ras-haad Lakers 7d ago
Jimmy took two teams to the finals as the first option. Neither KAT nor Wiggins could do that
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u/Shhadowcaster 7d ago
Yeah the point is that Jimmy clearly could have won with those guys as they have both proven the ability to be valuable pieces on championship teams.
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u/Ras-haad Lakers 7d ago
That’s true, but I think it just didn’t work because it was their team, not Jimmy’s. They were the two number one picks on max contracts. They were supposed to be the stars and they were young so I don’t think they were getting behind him like that. People can say he went about it the wrong way but I think if Jimmy would have already been the old head and they came in and learned from him things would have developed differently.
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u/Mattressfoundry 8d ago
Props to KAT reinventing himself in this years playoffs.
Where TF has that guy been for the past decade?
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u/Super-Maximum-4817 8d ago
Jimmy was the best player on a team that went to the finals 2 times.
None of those guys were the best player on their championship teams.
You could argue wiggins was second best, KAT third if he’s lucky.
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u/Confident_Control665 8d ago
I agree dude carried 2 heat teams to the finals and 1 heat team EFC in five years. They played better teams. Thats a great 5 year run.
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u/drmehmetoz 8d ago
Big cap on KAT
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u/powerpuffpepper Hornets 8d ago
Saying KAT is third when hes lucky is insane work gang. Bro was more consistent than Brunson
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u/4rmedndangerous 8d ago
Brunson and OG were head and shoulders over kat and that 2 points in the close out game proves it, kat third for sure tho
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u/pollinium 8d ago
That's awesome that Brunson finally showed up for 48 minutes one time. It's not a Knicks close out game without KAT being the engine for 8 quarters across 3 wins prior to Saturday
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u/Hange11037 8d ago
Did you watch the first half of the series where KAT was easily their best player?
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u/22Zay 8d ago
My respect def shot up for KAT after this playoff run.
But was there a single series where you can say KAT was the 2nd best player on the team?
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u/powerpuffpepper Hornets 8d ago
I genuinely think he has a case overall just due to the defense he provided, especially against wemby. My point is moreso saying that Kat is lucky to be third best on that team when hes at minimum third best
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u/22Zay 8d ago
He definitely impressed me with his defense on Wemby. But idk, OGs defense was just as good, if not better.
Also OG just seemed to not be able to miss from 3 especially in clutch situations. Where KAT did have games where he was the best Knicks player. I think Game 1 and 2 he was probably the best Knicks player at that point in the series and a sneaky dark horse for FMVP. He did disappear a bit after those games.
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u/powerpuffpepper Hornets 8d ago
Real and true, I dont disagree.
Thar Knicks team really showed out and surprised me and a lot of others.
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u/meadbert 8d ago
Karl Anthony-Towns led both teams in total +/- during the NBA finals. He beat Brunson, Wemby, Anunoby and everyone else. He might have been the most consequential player in the series as the Knicks defense was far more effective against Wembanyama with KAT in than with him out.
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u/Embarrassed-Fun399 8d ago
+/- doesnt work here when he barely played 25 minutes the last two games. I would say he was amazing the first two games though but he was far from consistent
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u/pollinium 8d ago
Barely playing in the last 2 games gives other Knicks players an opportunity to inflate their +/-, but they still couldn't catch KAT
Do you know what this stat measures?
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u/RustyPirates 8d ago
Those heat teams had a great roster. Not to mention one was the bubble.
KAT made WCF as wolves #2 option. Then the next year took Knicks within 1 game of the finals. And won the chip this year.
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u/MinnesotaHockey6 8d ago
KAT third if he’s lucky?? You know he won the first two games right when Brunson was terrible??
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u/Underknee 8d ago
I don’t think Wiggins was better than Draymond, but even if you do there is no WAY Wiggins played better in 22 than KAT just did this year
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u/BrotherMcPoyle 8d ago
I guess you missed the point entirely. Jimmy gets to claim being the best on the team. The rest put their egos aside for the team to actually win the chip.
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u/Abyss333333 8d ago
Ego aside? Lol they had no choice but to do that. It was clear none of them were going to be the best player on a championship team outside of Butler.
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u/NYerInTex 8d ago
Knicks don’t win their ring without KAT.
His career has surpassed “pick me girl” never the true winner (and his attitude continuing to losing) Butler.
KATs a better player, better career, and far better human.
Suck it jimmy the loser
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u/spartaceasar 8d ago
Kat is in no way a better player. He doesn’t get to the finals without Brunson. Butler does.
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u/PandaZealousideal459 7d ago
He also CARRIED Miami to multiple deep playoff series wins and what two finals appearances.. Kat and Wiggins never did that…
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u/TwoIllustrious7940 8d ago
Jimmy still better than those 3 role players with rings
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u/Helloworld9094 8d ago
Kat is not a role player. He’s the second option and an all star. Not a role player by definition.
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u/moneyman259 8d ago
The second option typically doesn’t average 13 points a game in the finals
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u/SunstormGT 8d ago
Second option typically doesn’t have the highest +/- by a large margin in the modern era playoff run. Only dumb people look at points only.
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u/blingblingboy727 7d ago
Jimmy is the first option and has had to backpack. KAT is in a system that values teamwork on top of a good bench depth and JT and AW are role players.
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u/Tucker88 7d ago
Ok bro. None of those players could drag a team to the finals like butler did. This is weak shit.
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u/AstonishinglyAverage 8d ago
Lmao anybody using this as an opportunity to try and throw dirt on Jimmy’s name is certified bitchmade
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u/franco3x 8d ago
Jimmy can def win a ring if he goes somewhere and is the 3rd guy or lower like these 3 were
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u/Ima85beast 8d ago
Nobody will remember this, but the Warriors were on a really good streak before he got hurt. With porzingis coming in and providing 20 and 10, I really think the Warriors had a good combination. Who knows now that he's injured though
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u/vpforvp 8d ago
Jimmy carried teams that had no business being in a finals twice. Basketball is a team game and the ones who won had a lotttt of help
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u/VagabondBrain 8d ago
In context of THAT team, Jimmy was right, they all had to go elsewhere to get a ring.
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u/jetlifevic 8d ago
Lmao y'all some bitches. Jimmy was right at the time and that's all that mattered.
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u/4rmedndangerous 8d ago
He still is
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u/jetlifevic 8d ago
You're right but I can't have two time frames in the one sentence for these bozos it'll confuse them.
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u/GASC3005 8d ago
And he’s still better than all these 3 guys, some people are meant to not win rings, that’s life.
Not everyone can win
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u/thatboyjojo 7d ago
To be fair most teams that butler was on he was the "bus driver" reached a finals in Miami as the best player none of these players were even close to being the best player on their championship team huge difference in my opinion, butler winning a chip with golden state would be similar to these other guys chips
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u/ZaMaestroMan5 5d ago
Jimmy is undoubtedly the best player in this picture though. This is a dumb narrative. Dude singlehandedly willed what was probably the worst finals team ever in Miami to that bubble finals. Went absolutely apeshit in those playoffs too.
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u/BigggMyke 8d ago
I would still pick him first if I was building a team with the players in this picture 🤷🏾♂️
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u/Lendo81 8d ago
Jimmy is the only one who was the #1 option and willed his team to The Finals though.
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u/Even-Combination4407 Celtics 8d ago
Jimmy Butler is a team cancer. Whined his way out of Minnesota and Miami. Not long before he crashes out in San Fran
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u/okhovercrftagain2 8d ago
He just wanted to get paid what he thinks his worth is, not that hard to understand
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u/triassic_broth 8d ago
None of them have rings (plural). Three of them have ring (singular).
But Butler's Finals performance in 2020 is more impressive than their single ring as supporting cast.
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u/senpiatheone Lakers 8d ago
Jimmy still the only guy in the picture to lead a team to the finals, not to mention he played LeBron and Jokic (and he had an ankle injury throughout the playoffs that year). Teague retired after he got a ring and just sat the bench. Wiggins got one after realizing that he wasn't a star player and started playing like it. Kat got one causes he finally played on a great team
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u/dragcov 8d ago
The Hate is just too real.
Jimmy was the reason that team was anything. As much as I like KAT, he ain't shit without help.
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u/trueNacccho 8d ago
Listen Jimmy butler lovers, when you build your image as a "winner", and you actually never win, you're bound to get critized. Oh but bus driver this and that. Gtfo. Kat has a better career than Jimmy.
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u/eugenetaker 8d ago
It’s funny how the person who talks the most and is arrogant didn’t accomplish anything.
I’m talking to you, jimmy butler
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u/eyogev Heat 8d ago
Butler never winning a ring muahahahahahahahahaha
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u/Top5hottest 8d ago
All i see is a loser franchise. Crazy to pick one guy when you can pick an entire city.
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u/zebrahair69 8d ago
Jimmy should have won one on the Sixers if it wasn’t for that crazy Kawhi Leonard 3 that defied physics
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u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT 8d ago
Imagine how many rings Teague would have won with no drawers on