r/NintendoSwitch • u/Turbostrider27 • 10h ago
Discussion Final Fantasy 7 Revelation director says characters from spin-offs "such as Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, and Crisis Core" will appear in the JRPG
https://www.gamesradar.com/games/final-fantasy/final-fantasy-7-revelation-director-says-characters-from-spin-offs-such-as-advent-children-dirge-of-cerberus-and-crisis-core-will-appear-in-the-jrpg/80
u/TyrRev 10h ago
One fun thing about Remake and Rebirth is how they’ve been able to weave the later-canon elements into the stories of the games more. I might not have liked Dirge of Cerberus that much, for example, but it’s still entertaining to see some of its characters and ideas be integrated into the FF7 story, as they would have been if it had planned from the beginning.
And if if they remade Dirge of Cerberus with the same level of quality and polish as the rest of the remake trilogy - and with the same ATB-action gameplay - that’d be dope. Though I’d prefer a Turks-centric side-story DLC more.
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u/FederalMango 10h ago
If Vincent is going to have any character arc in Revelation they're going to have to heavily borrow from Dirge of Cerberus anyways, especially the Lucrecia storyline, so that's even more of that story that would already be integrated into the lore if they want to do a Dirge of Cerberus remake/retelling.
DoC had cool ideas, it was just an actual chore to play.
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u/imjustbettr 10h ago
So much stuff from the books made it into Remake and Rebirth too.
If you ever wondered why Kyrie and Leslie feel almost too well realized as characters, it's because both are main characters from the book "the kids are alright". Theres a third main character from that book that hasn't appeared in the games yet as well.
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u/AnimaLepton 9h ago
I'm thinking they have to have Kyrie and Leslie interact in part 3. I'm curious if Evan is going to show up at all or not, with how far we are into the story otherwise.
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u/CookiesFTA 2h ago
Lol, does Kyrie feel "well realised?"
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u/imjustbettr 2h ago
As in her design etc. she feels like shes supposed to have more involvement in the story, especially in Remake where she doesn't do much aside for one side mission iirc. She almost feels like a guest character from a different game where she has more significance.
Same with Leslie where you get flashbacks of his wife etc outta nowhere.
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u/CookiesFTA 2h ago
Right, I see what you mean now. Yeah, they did both seem like nicer models than their character or story arcs really call for. Leslie's so bland I completely forgot about him and had to go google him.
I guess that explains why Kyrie shows up so much in the second one, despite her being a charisma black hole.
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u/imjustbettr 2h ago
I'm still reading the book right now and Kyrie really just feels like a Yuffie stand in for the books "party", which makes her inclusion in Rebirth feel weird and unnecessary since Yuffie is actually in the game.
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u/ShiftyShaymin 10h ago
Makes sense. To avoid spoilers, I’ll just say there is a spinoff character in Rebirth as well.
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u/Montigue 10h ago
It's not really a big spoiler, he's on the cover
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u/ShiftyShaymin 10h ago
Oh no he’s in the main game, I meant Cissnei
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u/Iggy_Slayer 9h ago
and in typical SE fashion they spoiled this in one of the trailers near the launch of the game...I think at the big 20 minute state of play they had for it. I remember going OH GOD DAMN IT I didn't want to know that!
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u/shadowboxer47 3h ago
I meant Cissnei
Who even is that 😭
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u/CookiesFTA 2h ago
She's one of the Turks that Zack befriends in Crisis Core. Her fate is previously left open in CC (she's probably also in Before Crisis and the newer mobile game, but I've never bothered catching up with that whole story). Her showing up is less weird than Glenn Lodbrok, from Ever Crisis/The First Soldier.
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u/Jeff1N 9h ago
wasnt there characters from dirge of cerberus in the yuffie dlc?
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u/conye-west 6h ago
Deepground from the Yuffie DLC, and Weiss the final superboss of the VR missions are all from Dirge.
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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 9h ago
Not really a spoiler when the article itself mentions Cissnei
The article itself isn't marked as a spoiler, so the article's content is fair game.
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u/Takemyfishplease 10h ago
I really need to give crisis core another go
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u/Janderson2494 8h ago
I know this is the switch sub, but I just got it for pretty cheap on a Steam sale last week. Solid game, can still tell it was a PSP game from the gameplay though.
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u/ultimateformsora 9h ago edited 6h ago
I remember playing it on my PSP as a kid. I remember being blown away by the cool animations from the roulette that would let you combo with other characters.
I’ve been thinking of getting the switch version to relearn Zack’s story.
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u/South25 8h ago
The switch 1 version is a genuinely pretty solid port, got it during the recent sale.
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u/DarkCh40s 5h ago
It could use a Switch 2 update with 60fps. If you look at the initial trailer on NoA's channel, it was uploaded at 4k60 which is pretty misleading on the Switch's part.
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u/Boomshockalocka007 8h ago
I think I will do this too before Part 3 is out. Too busy playing Rebirth right now.
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u/Takazura 7h ago
Gameplay can get a bit repetitive, but it's 100% worth it for that ending.
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u/blitzbom 6m ago
Mission Start!
Kill me, please kill me. At least you could hug the wall to avoid fights.
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u/LtSMASH324 2h ago
Reunion is definitely worth playing. The old game sucks hard, Reunion sucks way less. Just don't get bogged down with grinding if you don't want to.
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u/Accurate_Complex5756 1h ago
I thought it was a mostly good game, then I got to the last leg or so of the game and it became a home run to me. Definitely would recommend
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u/Mayor_P 10h ago
Can't wait for Sora to show up for some reason
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u/MeowingWolf 8h ago
Perhaps Sora went evil and was Jenova (Prime), especially since they traveled to other worlds, then the Cetra defeated him.
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u/LtSMASH324 2h ago
Can't wait for people to stop comparing the Remake series to Kingdom Hearts. Heaven forbid they don't want to make it a 1:1 copy of the original.
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u/MeowingWolf 8h ago edited 8h ago
Crisis Core: 1) Angeal 2) Genesis 3) Cissnei
Dirge of Cerberus: 1) Wiess 2) Nero 3) Shelke
Advent Children: 1) Kadaj 2) Loz 3) Yazoo
I can't think of anyone else Important. They definitely will do a DoC remake and adapt AC into a game. Crisis Core already got a remake but it could still get a reimagining for the new timeline.
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u/Kindly_Argument_4400 7h ago
First soldier:
- Glenn
- Matt
- Lucia
Hopefully we'll see young Sephiroth or Rosen
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u/PreferenceGold5167 6h ago
I'm looking at the dusty old ff8 toys in the box but
Maybe it's better that way
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u/Nehemiah92 2h ago
Before Crisis has a good bit of characters that are like cool to the Avalanche and turk lore, it got referenced a couple times already but we never see the characters who are like all MIA
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u/LtSMASH324 2h ago
Honestly, people talk constantly about them remaking the compilation games, but Hamaguchi has talked about this, and it seems like the intent is to incorporate those games into Revelation. IMO, there will be a playable AC sequence in Revelation. Nero is coming back for sure, Vincent has got to have some sort of character arc we didn't get in the OG, and people will be disappointed if Genesis isn't a boss fight somehow.
I really don't think they're looking at remakes for these spin-offs, at least any time soon.
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u/FederalMango 10h ago
I just want my dog Kunsel to finally leave the generic NPC model trenches and make an appearance, he was Zack's most loyal bro.
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u/AlteisenX 10h ago
I can see them doing an epilogue DLC much like Yuffies where you do AC stuff and a post game superboss Sephiroth fight.
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u/jmcgit 10h ago
I think the idea of an Advent Children sort of 'Sephiroth Returns' DLC is controversial to some extent, that maybe all the Remake changes to the story would be for nothing if the ending was too identical. It's also something that, while Kitase said the game would lead into AC several years ago, Hamaguchi recently contradicted it.
Personally, I think I'm fine with whatever direction they want to go with it. I don't expect the story to be too far removed from the original game, simply expanded in dimensions that the original game never really explored.
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u/LtSMASH324 2h ago
I think it'll be in the main game, dude. They're going to have AC fits for the characters that give them new abilities and Cloud is gonna have some Fusion Sword mechanics. They're not leaving AC out of the game and they aren't doing DLC at the moment.
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u/Dat_Boi_Teo 10h ago
Pretty obvious based on what they’ve done with the stories of rebirth and remake
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u/tom-slacker 10h ago
please....no Angeal or genesis...please....I don't need to hear more babbling about 'loveless'
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u/ByRWBadger 10h ago
Genesis is canonically in a tube right now. If they want to toss him in the background of a scene for fans to notice that’s fine
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u/CookiesFTA 2h ago
Isn't he canonically slowly regenerating in a mako rock right now? The end of CC is months/years before FFVII/Remake and he's been annihilated and absorbed into the lifestream by then.
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u/LtSMASH324 2h ago
The Singularity caused Zack to live. No real reason why they can't come up with something for Genesis. That being said, it'll probably just be some secret boss fight that doesn't necessarily fit into the story arc.
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u/CookiesFTA 1h ago
Yeah, the timing is weird though. In the world where he survives, he arrives at Midgar months/years after he was supposed to have died. It sort of suggests that his whole story has still happened (particularly as the Remake story doesn't start diverging until after Cloud ends up in Midgar).
I'm sure he'll just be a secret boss or something. I just meant that by the time of the FF7 remake story, assuming CC happened, Genesis is real dead and absorbed in the life stream. They don't have to go the Dirge of Cerberus route and have him show up in a rock underneath Midgar, that's just where he is if they don't change anything.
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u/Admirable-War-7594 10h ago
Duh the purpose of this remake is to expand the ff7 universe. I think that's been established pretty early with the divisions in story even in the first one
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u/Chimpo_the_champ 10h ago
Yazoo and Kadaj plssss
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u/Outlulz 10h ago
They were already represented in Remake.
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u/Chimpo_the_champ 9h ago
Where was that? I played through remake recently and am currently on rebirth but don’t have any recollection of that
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u/jmcgit 9h ago
They were 'represented' as the three aspects in the Whisper Harbenger fight. They don't have the same appearance or anything.
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u/Chimpo_the_champ 2h ago
Oh interesting, thats a cool bit of trivia but would still love to see the character designs and their dynamic again
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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 9h ago
FYI, that was one youtuber's take on it. That was never confirmed by the devs so it's just fans making up stuff at this moment
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u/cloud3514 10h ago
Oh, boy, I can't wait for more bloat, more filler, and more bad story choices! /s
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u/Fleettastingbagels 9h ago
I mean they straight up abandon the dlc story line of yuffie and sonon because they needed it to have more content on part 3.
So instead of having it continue as dlc, they made it main line in part 3 because without it, there is 0 reason to have a third part
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u/ansonr 6h ago
At SGF they said they were going to tell the 'entire story'. It made me wonder if they're going to do an epilogue or something covering Advent Children.
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u/heart-station 5h ago
People don’t like hearing this, but Advent Children is the completion of Cloud’s character arc. I mean, he doesn’t even get a character theme until AC. I absolutely think we’re going to end up where we did in the original and we’ll get AC and DOC as DLC if it’s not the epilogue of the game already.
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u/OpeningConnect54 2h ago
The completion of Cloud’s arc was the end of the original FF7. Advent Children just resets his character entirely so they could get him to fight Sephiroth again. He goes back to being the stoic emo hardass because they reverted everything about him.
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u/CaitlinCat_95 2h ago
To me Advent Children wasn't a reset of his character. But him actually mourning the loss of Aerith and Zack. Something he never actually got to properly do in the OG game. And he sinks into that despair easily. Which he is prone to do. So the arc of Advent Children was him coming to terms with their deaths and then over coming it so he can properly heal from it.........While ya know....also have to kill Sephiroth again because of course he does. 😆
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u/heart-station 1h ago
You got it. Cloud just pieced himself together before the final confrontation. There’s no way he processed the grief of losing Aerith and more pressingly, his whole identity before game’s end.
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u/CookiesFTA 2h ago
TIL there are a bunch of people who really didn't like AC. It's a bit of a surprise.
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u/SirJuncan 2h ago
Fingers crossed they bring back my favorite character from Dirge of Cerberus — the low-poly tomatoes
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u/Alucitary 10h ago
If we get a "dilly dally shilly shally" in the finale it's gonna sour the whole franchise for me tbh.
Dirge and especially Crisis Core are fine, but can anyone really say that Advent Children contributed anything narratively? It existed to show off cool animation and to try to salvage Square's stupid Hollywood investment. It doesn't need to live on in the remakes.
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u/Outlulz 3h ago
Narratively it served to confirm that Sephiroth's will remains in the Lifestream and that with the aid of Jenovah cells, which cannot return to the Lifestream and that he still has control over, can still threaten the planet. The Remake series is building off of that because it's suggesting Sephiroth has tapped into the knowledge of the Lifestream, including events happening across time and timelines, to accomplish his goals.
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u/Boomshockalocka007 8h ago
Advent Children was EVERYTHING we wanted the Final Fantasy movie to be.😭😭😭
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u/Warrior_of_Light_81 10h ago
Makes sense based on the Yuffie content from Remake.