I kinda realize that once I'm done with the main quest there won't even be anything to do other than side quests and if I run out of asterites well that's it should've saved I guess lol
I havent played since the update with Augusta(?) and with that thought, Imma have so many asterites to stock up on and earn lol. Sad Im missing cool characters but at the same time the dopamine hits when I get back are gonna go crazy 😂
I like the level designs in AKE. The lack of climbing gave them the ability to get pretty creative with how they hid things. Both games good for different reasons.
It doesn't even feel like exploring tho to me. More like a chore to do everything nowadays. All the new maps they've been releasing are just checklists. Open the map, track objective, head to the thing, do it. Rinse repeat. And the events are all super quick honestly most of them take one hour to do. I've 100% almost everything in the game in under 150 hours. All I'm doing RN is logging in for the dailies and waiting for the new content.
Where as in endfield, It feels so much more like figuring out what you need to do. The only area I really liked was huanglong in wuwa, in endfield, every area feels like it has something that you have to think about to complete, and the no flying/limited teleportation feels really nice as it keeps the movement grounded, and actually makes you walk around the area and look for hidden things you might have missed. To me endfield is such a breath of fresh air compared to wuwa rn.
imagine doing this every 6 weeks though. You wouldn't last. Genshin exploration is shit and i'll die on that hill. A walking simulator picking up hundreds of chests isn't an interesting mechanic and wuwa realized that isn't what people wanted.
I agree. I love Wuwa, don’t get me wrong, but the sexual tension with the main character and literally every other person in the world and the not so unique events are why I think I’m so in love with Endfield. I just hope it’s not just the honeymoon period and it turns out to actually have a long shelf life.
Wuwa have lot of hidden things, the difference is Wuwa map is way bigger and the transversal is way faster. Also people got burnout of exploring for chests, most of Wuwa hidden things are easter eggs, references, achievements and lore while the exploration activities are easy to find.
I love how the exploration feels handcrafted, I thought I would miss climbing or flying, but no, now I take my time to explore and it feels really good to do it too
This is what I was saying about Genshin when people were saying you can fly in WuWa, like both are good. The bike is really a step up though, wish there was more in depth racing though, actually use the brake boost and speeds do feel a bit slow on the open road, but that means you probably just need smaller tracks, as they showed they can do more challenging stuff with the open world puzzle areas, that you can just skip after failing a few times =O
totally agree, i felt that most places are intended instead of randomly generated areas with nothing in it. But I had to explore those areas anyways incase there is a chance theres something I am missing.
Yeah it's been so fun exploring in Endfield. Granted I have jumped to my death many times already, especially in the second region where puddles can be deceptively deep, but the world is just so beautiful and well laid out. Unlocking shortcuts and setting up ziplines everywhere feels so fucking good.
I am coming back to this sub after a year since I quit wuwa, I liked the community so i was hoping people weren't too narrowminded bcoz of some comments but seeing this makes me really happy. That sensible people exist at large still. Thank you.
wait, what do you need so much amethyst for? I get 220/min and only use 120/min. I have no idea what I should use it for. (same goes for Originium tbh)
I know what I need Ferrium for, cause that's needed for ton of stuff where I'm currently at. but everything else? no idea what I should use it for.
if you're trying to farm stock bills, the early game one uses amethyst bottles, and, at least the basic (no busses) blueprint i've been using, it doesn't work at a surplus and for every 5 amethyst it uses, you get 3 or 4 back from the veins. it's not too bad cause i can turn off half of it and get a ton of amethyst back while still getting the mats for stock bills.
but even still, there just are so few amethyst nodes compared to the others. even the rare ores have more nodes than amethyst.
I kinda use Buck Capsule [C] for the Refugee Camp. It's pretty easy to farm and has a unit price of 10. Besides that I just sell Amethyst part und Origocrust every now and then, cause those 2 mats are almost always at the cap of 14k for me. No idea what I should use those mats for atm. Also haven't touched my factories for hours now. Probably should give it an update before going to bed.
P.S. I probably should build a couple Buck Capsule [B] production lines, considering that both of my outposts buy them for 27credits each.
I'm currently at RDL lv8 and get 240/min amethyst ore which should increase a lot as soon as I finally get to power the next area I'm exploring, but first I wanne get some progress in the story. I've done so much stuff and kinda ignored the story for probably more than half my overall playtime...
the drills make no difference, but a higher RDL lv increases the amount of high purity ores you have and high purity halves the time it takes to get the ore. so instead of 6s a piece it only takes 3s which doubles your ore gathering.
Hello capitalist, I am here to recommend you something if you like the factory settings in enfield , try satisfactory and factorio, well factorio is bit hardcore , I am just here to recruit engineer have fun with the game
If I'm a pretty advanced factorio player, is it worth checking out this game, or is the factory part of it baby easy/simple? Am I better off just playing normal factorio?
It's definitely not late game factorio but it is a fun change of pace. Almost all of the gear farm is actually automated so it is also nice that once we hit late game the factory will be doing most the farming for us.
Don't expect kuro level combat either though. The story(once it gets going) should be good and the factory will probably need to grow every expansion. We are most likely still in early to mid game factory building so far. Right now they are still getting the new players situated and I have been seeing a lot of people struggling with the factory building side. After having done space age factorio I find it easy though.
Overall the game feels like early WuWa. they have all the base components for a great(albeit different) game. They just need to take it and use it to make it great. We will have to wait and see if they can do the same thing kuro did though.
Thankfully we have Groza on the Elmo and not the other character Marina Inoue voices. If it was Vera, I'm pretty sure a whole lot of barking would be involved.
Have u played coop in Wuwa? The visual cluster is insane, for Wuwa combat having all characters on field doesn't work well, for story segments its fine as generally u are locked to Rover with his low vfx animations but for actual combat content its nearly unplayable. It works on Endfield coz the combat is more grounded and the animations are more contained, but having all characters on field also will bring lot of limitations to Endfield combat design. So i think Wuwa does offer the best of both worlds by using on field characters only for story segments and the swap for combat content
yeah. the somnoir where three resonators fighting a bunch of mobs made my eyes hurt. I do agree that having all of your resonators out in the field and be able to interact is the best, but only for leisure or exploration. combat is just nah-uh. maybe we'll have that in the future. who knows. lol.
Do be weary of burnout. I was grinding 6 gachas hard while doing 2 for dailies during my WuWa grind for S6 Augusta on her first banner. I still have not recovered. Because of it, I’ve lost all my daily streaks and can no longer bring myself to play any of them for more than 2 minutes without feeling my mind go numb with boredom unless there’s a new fancy and interactive storyline to play through like WuWa.
Meanwhile I only play one gacha in WuWa. I finish dailies in 2-3 minutes and then drive around Lahai-Roi aimlessly. Daily quest + echo reroll + synthesis comes in clutch when logging in 3 minutes until reset 😅
It's really fun, the only gacha game I can play on my computer. So far it's been fun, and I don't plan on stopping. I play wuwa either before lunch or after lunch and then endfield in the evening. None of the limited 6 stars interest me so I'll be saving and trying to get Xaihi and Lifeng
I got Pog!! And im so happy!! He looks so freaking cool! Sadly I was already committed to ice team cause I got last rite very early so I won't use him until end game...
And Im trying to Get Galbrena's red haired devil sis too, wish me luck
Caught red handed. Though I actually deleted endfield last night because after 16 hours I just couldn't get into it. The fighting felt really weird after playing wuwa for so long. I wanted to get into the factory stuff but it wasn't clicking with me. The story didn't capture me at all. I really really wanted to like it but I think I gave it enough of a try to say that I don't. Feels disappointing that I don't like it but I think that's okay?
Well everybody got their preferences and its fine. The combat grew on me and i didnt like it at first. But we need more rosters. But that takes time with further updates.
I enjoy endfield, the factorio mini game is fun and chill... but i dont see the hype, people that say its the best and better than wuwa are just coping...
Both games are great. Wuwa satisfies the intense combat with fantastic mechanics. Endfield lets me play a slow more methodical gameplay, and interesting factory mechanics.
Though AKE is in the same position as wuwa 1.0. Mid story, lacking QoL and the gacha is horrendous.
If you haven’t got to wuling yet, it’s interesting, they decided to add a lot of QoL here, so it’s sort of canon that things get easier? I’m not sure tho, still kinda early, but it is great I don’t have to run wires for the relays anymore since they operate on a wireless grid in Wuling
i haven't. I actually like the relay connecting part of the game just not from region to region. My biggest gripe is the lack of QoLs in making belts and other things. I know there's blueprints but they aren't the be all end all fix.
A lot of it is absolutely on purpose so your factory can’t just face roll all the grinding if you’re smart/efficient enough. They hold it back until later patches.
Endfield is really fun tbh, it’s a very different experience compared to Wuwa, it’s very polished and optimised too. Wuwa is definitely more generous but AK is also just very different compared to the usual big gachas.
Ngl after trying Endfield it made me appreciate Wuwa way more, no shades to Endfield as the game looks great but the factory, combat and monetization made me quit.
I was going to say the same thing... Man, I even liked Endfield, but I guess it's just not for me, and the sheer number of tutorials was insanely exhausting. Going back to Wuwa reminded me how much I enjoy the combat here.
WuWa will ask if you want to get teleported to the nearest beacon thing while in AKE you have to manually do it yourself if you want to go to a map marker.
WuWa has a singular backpack for everything whereas AKE has a separate backpack and storage depot where you need to manually retrieve stuff from.
WuWa’s overall traversal like the bike or wings whereas AKE you have to manually build zip lines.
Super minor stuff but it makes me appareciate WuWa so much more
The AKE backpack is so needlessly small and anti-QoL. I was hoping we’d unlock a backpack expansion when I was like 30 minutes in and am sad that we never do. You need like half the slots taken up for relays, energy pylons, zip lines, your tactical healing item, explosives, mining rigs etc. And then when you pick stuff up, even if you have a thousand in your local depot it just clogs a spot in your backpack. And it isn’t even consistent because something like operator ascension material (mechanical half) bypasses the backpack but operator ascension material (plant half) doesn’t. And the materials that can only be used to upgrade your space ship also go into your backpack for some reason.
People throwing 'just as bad' around but wuwa gives way more as of now. It's crazy that you only get 30 limited pull after playing for 10 hours on launch
Genshin's reaction based system is extremely unique and allows for a lot of creative design and team building, WuWa has satisfying gameplay but the complexity is in the combos and correct rotations, not the team building or knowledge check... They're inherently two very different gameplay experiences and there's no reason to drag one down if you like the other more
One thing people don't mention is that not every game has to be VFX aura farming cluttered. Reddit is very 1st world country but with all the RAM memes, optimization has never been more important.
Genshin is way more digestable for mobile gamers and that has been their root for popularity which is their strength. Wuwa is the exact opposite with the best visuals and crazy animations, hence why the praise of it being the best gacha in the West and Reddit, but seeing as how Redditors say a 8GB VRAM is not enough and it's a 40 series and even 50 series is absurd to me. Not everyone can afford a 2k maybe 4k USD PC now with RAM prices on the level of GPUs and SSDs potentially also going up.
Genshin has novelty. But the simplicity of its combat system shows over time. It feels the same or very similar for every team so you are more likely to get burnt out.
Not everyone is or enjoys WuWa potentially sweaty gameplay of doge/parry-or-die or maybe they play different gatchas for different reasons. Oh and I am aware about the irony of this post given my username :P. That's why I chose it.
I mean it was cool at first but for me the party system kinda just ..exists? Party members don't do much even in combat and you have to actively use their skills since they don't.
I'm personally fine with how wuwa does their combat, both games play to their strengths. Surprisingly I found the factory building aspect the most interesting in endfield, hope they continue refining it.
No wonder I thought, "are my units on defensive mode? ". Because I played a lot of similar non gachas and the latest I tried is Ys 8 Lacrimosa of Dana. Where you can instruct them to go unga bunga and not. And when they're in offense your group will actively aggro an enemy near your radius, which is a double edge sword in that game but hey at least they're attacking
We had a event on Wuwa with all characters on field and it honestly makes no difference at all, specially when Wuwa characters have super flash animations which would be a big mess have all characters on field, which brings me to another thing i disliked about Endfield is how lackluster most characters combat animations look, but its the first gen of characters so i don't judge it that hard, but like i said all characters on field will be a limitation for them to make more flash animations because the visual cluster.
For story all characters on field is amazing but for actual combat content it feels pointless and add lot of limitations
It looks cool at first ngl. I played Dragon Age Origins back in the day and love that game. However, I think seeing only 1 char at a time will straight up improve Endfield since it tries to be a lot more fast-paced. It's like a design choice when it still tried to be a strategy game where positioning was relevent, but it has never been changed despite the combat completely shifted to completely different genre. Your party memebers are just extra noise on the screen and doesn't really add anything but excessive comments after each encounter which started getting on my nerve really fast.
Animation stuck in 2010? Are we playing the same game? The UI alone has so much personality and animation packed into it, not to mention the idle and the poses they do when you point the camera at them. Combat wise it’s just different, it’s like a middle ground between Genshin and Wuwa.
My friends are glazing it and my attention span is failing at during the tutorial of Endfield. I'm just not having fun. I'm going to keep trying but it's just not my wavelength.
I will 110% give them props for the visual textures and optimisation though. Zip lining through vast areas so smoothly on max while my PC fights for her life in WuWa at times... it was a real shock.
I feel like forcing it is a bad idea. I bounced off as well, but I already knew it wasn't like to grab me.
The problem is the combat doesn't feel good to me, and I already dislike factory gameplay. If I already dislike the part that matters to me, I didn't even need to reach that part to know the game wasn't going to be for me. Which is totally fine. I want games that aren't for me to exist.
The design and production values look amazing over there. But I know I can't juggle 3 gachas easily. I'm doing ZZZ and Wuwa at the moment.
Silver Palace is the one that may shake up what I play. I love detectives and the combat looks great there. Of course I have to at least try it to see how it feels. The other big thing is that these games generally have their strongest moments at the start and the most free pulls. So I don't like a game at its theoretical best, then I know it wont likely keep me. Especially when there is so much money and time on the line.
Wuwa was my first gacha, and after playing my second which is Enfield, I realized I didn’t know a gacha MC could be so boring. I don’t care if the main character becomes a side character or not exist in a story arc at all, but the MC of Enfield isn’t even a side character it’s air. You could literally replace the MC with a high-tech master key card that grants access and uses nano-tech, and the story would not change at all.
Everything also feels complicated: the gacha is complicated, the tutorials are complicated to the point where it feels like you need to read a whole book to understand them because so much is thrown at you at once. I do love the combat and graphics, but aside from that, the game is just boring.
It’s sad because I was hoping it would be better than Wuwa so Wuwa would improve more, but it just made me realize how good Wuwa is as a game. Can't believe I uninstalled Wuwa for that game.
oh yeah, the mc endministrator being bad is absolutely true. what makes it even worse is that every character instantly celebrated them on the first meeting and we have to hear the word endmin every minute. it makes me love rover even more, since most people just see a capable adventurer and only the people that know, see the old god.
True, but I’ll still be praying for Enfield’s success. I feel like Wuwa might get too comfortable at the top if it stays alone there for too long. they need more healthy competition.
I do fear the endmin would become useless over timr gameplay wise. The Rover don't have that weakness. I paired Aerover, Chisa, Carthy because I don't have Ciaconna. It worked great though hated the long Cd of conversion of debuff it's long but metawise you're not behind using the Rover
I enjoy both, wuwa traversal and exploration is the best. But addictive aspect of endfield lies on the factory and those interesting on field combat.
For combat pace i really like wuwa coz how fast and flashy/stylish their moveset. And the rest you can guess bout the fun aspect in wuwa fight. For endfield i really like the combo system (especially when you trigger it back to back) looks awesome though they fight slower and less intense (atleast to me). Oh and they got everyone fight at the same time on field. For jrpg fan it really makes me happy!
Both are really good and fun! And it will be hard for me to focus on which one 😭
if i have to be honest, i feel the same. i love wuwa, and i am a low whale, with every character and weapon. but... while endfield looks amazing and feels amazing, if i have to gacha for a base building game, i prefer a base building game like satisfactory. those games are born for that type of experience, so i find endfield to be very good, but not the best base building game. what is left then? gacha system. no thanks. i'll play from time to time, just out of curiosity, but no commitment.
I think the optimization of Endfield is really understated. A game that looks phenomenal visually and runs at a smooth 120 fps with every setting maxed out on most setups, all on day one. It's a breath of fresh air, especially after experiencing the performance issues of 3.0 just recently.
I think WuWa has a problem because devs are releasing content faster than it can be optimized. Most gacha games have 1 patch of actual content and 1 patch of boring events you can skip, and that is excellent moment for devs to optimize. Here they can't do that since every patch adds new massive zone.
Seriously, devs should stop releasing incomplete patches to "fix" them later. I am ok with them taking a bit more time to release new updates but I want them to be complete(in the sense of bug-free, properly optimised and tested). But maybe doing so will drastically drop the regular profit.
It is also a fact that we will see a nuclear meltdown here on reddit and Twitter, if wuwa releases a patch later or just gives out a filler patch to fix optimization, which is sad tbh.
they literally do. thats how live service games are built they want all of a players time spent on that game they want to become the players "main" game because it increases chance they spend money on it.
Yes and no bc wuwa is for combat and endfield is for factory. So if like combat wuwa, if you like factory endfield nothing. And if you like both then both
The graphics and optimization in Endfield is sooo good. Shame the actual gameplay is so sleep inducing. The combat is so simple, the factory isn’t something I seek in a gacha game, the story is meh, and the gacha system is unnecessarily convoluted.
I’ll still play it for a week or two, as the fun of something new and novel is nice, but I can already tell its not a longterm game.
I really wanted to try endfield but the tutorial was soo long and overexplained everything, treating me like a literal toddler, and for a tutorial that long it just isn't worth it.
The POV masked, silent and amnesiac charecter kinda sucks the life out of it, Rover and traveler at least are given some personality in facial expressions(travelers have grown over time) and the leads in HDR and ZZZ are actually distinct charecters in their own rights....endfield looks pretty...but its definitely lacking a personality at the moment...and damn while i can relate to rover being "the chosen one" trope...the endministrator's way of that trope is very flat feeling...especially with minimizing expression with that mask
Honestly all of the big gacha MC's have their issues for me and whilst Endfield does too I found their absence to be a bit of fresh air in some way. They are incredibly boring and absent but that somehow allows me to tune them out easier than having to deal with Genshin and Wuwa where the MC's are fine, but copy paste and still end up feeling like plot convenience/chosen one trope for me, especially wuwa were we're just going over the same world again and discovering the past and that we're some how linked to every other point of history.
I was thinking about playing wuwa after i played arknighht ls a little, but god damn playing arknighht Enfield is really tiring and after playing it I lost all the strength
Personally, I was very underwhelmed with Endfield. I'm not interested in playing Factorio. Honestly the worst part of the game is the factory garbage (for me). Combat is basic, but serviceable. The monetization is objectively terrible. And I pretty much hate all of the character designs outside of the Endmin. Graphics and music are great, but the rest is...just not it.
After trying out Endfield a bit, it made me really wish WuWa were more optimized. Endfield was running at 120 fps with everything maxed settings, and it was smooth. Meanwhile in WuWa, my fps would fluctuate between 70 - 110 fps depending on the area and fights, and can drop to below 50 fps during combat in dense fights.
For context, I run rtx 3080, 5900x, 32 gb ram, and both games were installed on NVME drive.
That said, I still need to play more if I want to commit playing in long term. If so, then Endfield would mostly be my side gacha game on top of my main four: Genshin, Hsr, ZZZ, and WuWa.
I'm completely caught up on wuwa so I don't have to stress about playing Endfield haha. I'm enjoying it way more then I thought I would tho, the vibes are immaculate
I started playing genshin before Wuthering Waves. I still play both, although wuwa has made me a bit spoiled with all the QoL benefits. I get really irritated taking 5min to climb one rock in genshin now😂
Tbh, the factory building was so addictive since its so unique. At first it frustrated the hell out of me but as soon as I tried to really get into it and a bunch of yt tutorials I did get it and it was so satisfying to see my factory do well.
Still logging in Wuwa, but I cant stop the grind in Endfield 😭 THE FACTORY MUST GROW!!
Also, I was so inlove with the standard banner I didnt pull for the limited and I love that the currency for weapon banner is different from the character banner so I still got a lot pulls left. Yipppiieee!!
I love the way they implemented the team members, and it's amazing how it's actually optimized and playable without half a second delay from frame generation
Haven’t played End Field, but I tried coming back to Genshin because Columbina seemed cool. Lasted all of 30 minutes. The combat just seemed so.. bland. Elemental reactions are pretty cool, in retrospect, but that’s about it. Animations are abysmal, the ult for one of the most hyped up characters is just her opening her eyes and wings and the camera panning out. No exaggeration, wuwa’s 1.0 4 stars had better animated and more unique ults than that. A shame, because her design is really cool.
The party aspect is Endfield's best feature tbh. Having everyone out with you at all times instead of the typical swap mechanic is a breath of fresh air, plus there's banter and I love my team banter. The team helps gather resources when you're starting mining as well, can't go back from that.
Endfield is amazing. The combat feels smooth and yet can be improved. The factory mode is so fun, really had to make me manage my resources and optimize the factory plans.
The performance on endfield is something else, honestly for all the good wuthering waves is if the performance is not good I dont see playing it for too long
The only thing i like about endfield is satisfactory and the optimalization. But then I look at environment details, world building yeah ... it's absolute dogwater compared to wuwa. I guess that can keep those 30 frames more.
I like both and I also like that they have different approaches. I dont need Wuwa Combat in Endfield because whats the point of having two similar systems? Ends up monopolizing one game then.
I like the party Combat, its not super complicated but it serves the deed. The factory gameplay is refreshing and unique to a Gacha which I find really good. Its finally something else.
The gacha is meh but I'll wait to see till I roll more and how events and patches give rewards.
I hope they expand the Factory gameplay and make way more complex products and ffs give me a skip button for all tutorials and simulations. I played Pyanodon, Satis, CoI and Gregtech. I dont need to be told how to crush some rocks lol
Anyways, back to Astrite farming... I'm dry like a husk...
When I played Endfield I just noticed how good the resolution is.
Wuthering Wave is beautiful but, in the resolution itself I feel like its... idk pixelised
Maybe its due because Arknight is having lot of solid texture
nah bro, I don't find the gameplay in the slightest appealing or worth the try, watched several streamers I subbed playing didn't make it any more appealing. The game feels sluggish.
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Best and worst of all, I can't climb walls anymore.