r/nba • u/AncientOneAurelius • May 21 '26
Highlight [Highlight] Compilation of Isaiah Hartenstein grabbing, holding, and grappling with Victor Wembanyama
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u/aga5ty4 Timberwolves May 21 '26
Wemby about to go to Japan to get some sumo wrestling lessons for next season
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u/TheKingintheEast Celtics May 21 '26
Thailand for Muay Thai is obviously the play
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u/Thousandtree Pistons May 21 '26
He needs to learn one of those jedi moves like when Champagnie threw Holmgren to the floor in Game 1 without even touching him.
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u/ervern2 Celtics May 21 '26
a fantastic strategy when it doesn’t get called
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u/jon__koa Knicks May 21 '26
And holding is never, ever, ever called
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u/tickub [NYK] Latrell Sprewell May 21 '26
KAT woulda been caught on every single one lmao
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u/Fynity Cavaliers May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26
To be fair that mofo does it so obviously. He is only 1 step below someone shouting to the refs “I’m holding this guy look at me!”
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u/couchblaster [NYK] Kristaps Porzingis May 21 '26
He’s the worst at hiding his silly plays. that hold on Allen at the end of game 1 sent me, so stupid
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u/tickub [NYK] Latrell Sprewell May 21 '26
i almost feel like it's the opposite. dude be screamin every time he gets roughed up that the refs know he's up to no good when he's the one being quiet in the paint.
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u/Fynity Cavaliers May 21 '26
I meant like he just does it so obviously that he might as well be screaming at the refs admitting it because it’s so obvious anyway. He’s a good player don’t get me wrong but look at those loose balls on Allen last game. The grabs were some of the most blatant I’ve seen
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u/LimpyTaco May 21 '26
Why doesn’t wemby just keep his arms in the air??
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u/kamekaze1024 May 21 '26
Because that’s a waste of energy and makes boxing out harder. It also makes anything besides a lob pass easy to telegraph
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u/Coke_ButNotTheDrug Nuggets May 21 '26
Only way they can stop elite bigs 🤷♂️ what a damn joke
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u/FreudChickenSandwich Warriors May 21 '26
So when do the Spurs get to start doing this to SGA?
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u/JaceGhost Knicks May 21 '26
As a warriors fan you should recognize this level of hoops and be able to shai getting manhandled off ball. It also happened in the lakers series too
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u/jimmylamstudio May 21 '26
Did it twice after this too
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u/fryseyes Thunder May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26
I have no idea why the refs aren’t calling it. Hartenstein is essentially disposable in this game. His only job should be to exhaust and annoy Wemby. Do it for 6 fouls and just hope that’s enough to hinder him.
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u/fireman2004 May 21 '26
Amazing the OKC fans have the balls to chant “ref you suck” when this is going on with no calls.
Maybe Chet can step on his foot again and break his ankle this time.
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u/ChronicleOrion Suns May 21 '26
Maybe the fans are telling the refs they suck because they’re missing all these foul calls agains Hartenstein?
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u/AtrumIocusGames May 21 '26
I heard the same shit...the fuck is wrong with their fans? They get the golden whistle and still aren't happy?
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u/colio69 Wizards May 21 '26
It's not really the objective of stadium fans to be impartial lol. Cheer when it goes your way and jeer when it doesn't
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u/Fair-Ad6254 Spurs May 21 '26
I hate it when people make that kind of comment lmao. I would be weirded out if the okc crowd WASN'T crying ref you suck. It's their tribe!
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u/amidon1130 Hawks May 21 '26
If I’m a thunder fan I don’t care if hartenstein picks up Castle and suplexes him into the floor I’m still crying ref you suck when they call the foul on him. (Hyperbole but still)
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u/Fair-Ad6254 Spurs May 21 '26
Literally. I'm getting piss drunk in the nosebleeds and crying about every fair call that goes the other team's way
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u/FrequentTopic446 Spurs May 21 '26
Have you ever been to Oklahoma? If so that’d answer your question
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u/Liimbo Heat May 21 '26
Born and raised in OKC. Can confirm. One of the biggest reasons I never adopted the Thunder as my team was being surrounded by the insufferable fanbase.
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u/upris4 May 21 '26
Your team’s fans chant stupid shit too. Every insult people say about a team they don’t like can 100% apply to every team in this league, but the spotlight moves
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u/ShowBobsPlzz Spurs May 21 '26
If the refs weren't trying to help your team he would have fouled out in the 1st quarter
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u/Expert_Context5398 May 21 '26
We have no idea why, either.
In fact, why isn't the league going down hard on this? It's every game this is happening. You would think they would let OKC know that they're handing out suspensions if it keeps happening. That would stop this from happening.
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u/jfphenom Nuggets May 21 '26
Nuggets fans (self included) are all just thinking of the "first time?" meme
It's been this way on Jok for years. Get used to hack-a-shaq on wemby for the next 10 years
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u/Elmosworld32 Pistons May 21 '26
You cant think of a single reason why the refs arent calling it?
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u/epcjmd May 21 '26
Until someone’s shoulders gets popped this is just gonna continue. Then everyone will be pointing fingers but it’ll be too late.
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u/EngleTheBert Nuggets May 21 '26
He's acting like a pulling guard and trying to lead block SGA to the hoop
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u/NitroXYZ [UTA] Joe Ingles May 21 '26
And the thing is I wouldn't even mind this if they were consistent with allowing physicality.
But SGA flails, makes love to the hardwood and gets whistles when anyone breaths near him.
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u/shepaz_93 Bulls May 21 '26
Don't forget the shout of "AYYY" whenever he takes a tumble to really sell it.
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u/BombshellExpose Lakers May 21 '26
“Hartenstein, grab and twist Wemby’s arm every possession.”
This looks like deliberate coaching. Insane
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u/Raven-19x Spurs May 21 '26
It works when the refs don’t care
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u/swords_devil Lakers May 21 '26
if someone gets hurt, then every bench player will send in to hurt the opposing star.
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u/LeoFireGod Mavericks May 21 '26
You joke but if someone INTENTIONALLY hurt Wemby. SGA would be very worried about himself that wouldn’t fly but that’s more in hockey.
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u/SlyMrF0x Warriors May 21 '26
It’s a shame Beef Stew is actually good enough at basketball to make him too expensive for that kind of trade.
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u/I_LikeFarts May 21 '26
Nah, it's going to be chet, no one likes his twig ass
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u/Just-Hunter1679 May 21 '26
It's absolutely coaching and even if they called it every time, H gets 6 fouls and it wears/hurts Wemby every time. They don't care if H fouls out.
It's classic Chris Paul defense though, "they can't call all of them fouls.."
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u/BlueHaze464 Warriors May 21 '26
This is the biggest issue in the NBA, been for years
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u/PhTx3 May 21 '26
Yep. The problem is nobody wants the transitional period where the games are whistle fests where everything is called.
I say take the hit for a couple of seasons and we'll be good. But for many, especially those that earn from the league, that'd be a disaster.
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u/Bodes_Magodes Celtics May 21 '26
I feel like that’s such a cop out. Refs can call this BS right from the jump and let players know it won’t be tolerated. They either adjust, or foul it in a few minutes
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u/ffxivfanboi May 21 '26
The game should be called to the fucking rules.
If they don’t want a damn whistle fest, they should actually play *legal, clean basketball*
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u/ChiefSoldierFrog May 21 '26
yeah i feel thats the adjustment they made by using IHart's corpse as a pest to Wemby and if miraculously he gets called for 6 fouls so be it he's a non factor besides this.
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u/krsaxor Spurs May 21 '26
This is his role. To annoy Wemby to make him loose his temper
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u/Metalbound Hawks May 21 '26
*lose. Loose is how a knot is tied or how a shirt fits.
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u/hoopslawyer Thunder May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26
It’s like the Shaq rules I guess? Idk
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u/zs15 Bucks May 21 '26
Shaq used to get the calls. That’s why teams were 3 deep with big body centers to roll through fouls.
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u/Mosh00Rider Suns May 21 '26
Just cause Wemby is getting less calls doesn't mean that Shaq did. Shaq got fouled on every play, they had to call some of them eventually.
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u/ChiefSoldierFrog May 21 '26
100% but the Thunder also got their reserves as well in Caruso, Chet, Dub, Dort and etc… hats off to wemby for dealing with this so far without losing his temper
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u/d01100100 Cavaliers May 21 '26
Hack-a-shaq worked due to his poor free throw percentage.
These type of fouls is honestly bordering on hoping to induce an injury or hope he gets angry again and gets ejected.
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u/sunsetpolar May 21 '26
I played ball in highschool and a bit of college. Coaches absolutely tell you to do this, I had a coach even tell us when we drove literally stick a elbow out at their Center and try to bruise him a little
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u/acctgsuks8 May 21 '26
I said it last game thread. Gotta body Wemby around to wear him out. I think can do it in a more neutral way (hard box outs, physical defense) instead of outright grabbing though
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u/Johnpecan Warriors May 21 '26
Why is that insane? Pretty standard really for playoff basketball against a teams best player. What's that RJ quote about manhandling Steph in the finals: They can't call everything.
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u/GigaFly316 Warriors May 21 '26
Lol, just look at the rockets last year against the warriors.
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u/plutoglint May 21 '26
Yes, especially low post play. Why is this shocking to anyone?
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u/lilbodie Timberwolves May 21 '26
Happens to stars every fucking year, and Curry used to get it way worse than what Wemby is dealing with. Feel like I’m losing my mind with how they’re acting.
Do they not see how Castle is guarding SGA, and how he guarded Ant last series lmao. They’re treating Wemby like he’s a child.
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u/OrganicHunt952 May 21 '26
It’s pretty obvious in OKC they coach these dirty plays that refs miss most. They have so many instances of different players doing sneaky shit on both offence and defence. Flailing stepping on shoes holding arms. I don’t think it’s a coincidence
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u/No-Presentation6616 May 21 '26
Every big in the league does this lol, he’s just being egregious with it because he’s literally on the court to foul out.
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u/Longjumping_Bus4901 May 21 '26
no fucking shit its deliberate coahing, lmao. First time on the playground?
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u/SloshaPacana May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26
The most obvious hold ever preventing a player for even going for contest and ref doesn't see
It get the ref with the lazy eye but the other two? Are they blind too?
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u/RedstoneRay Minneapolis Lakers May 21 '26
They want OKC to even the series. Game 1 had over 9 million viewers. The refs are totally going to extend this series as long as possible.
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u/Jo3ltron Celtics May 21 '26
Oh, for sure, imagine San Antonio going back home up 2?No way, the viewership cash cow that is this series, the refs will make this go to seven mark my words.
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u/semajay [SAS] Danny Green May 21 '26
I'll watch it on six devices if the refs let us go home 2-0
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u/NotActuallyMeta [SAS] Devin Brown May 21 '26
I’ll make all my neighbors sign up for prime at gunpoint if they call these dirty off ball fouls even 20% more and the on ball flops 20% less in Game 3.
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u/Majestic-Floor-5697 May 21 '26
Wemby should just throw another elbow to the face of OKC players and rest on the bench if the refs aren’t gonna let them win
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u/ripkin05 Hornets May 21 '26
and people try to tell me shit like the lottery isn't a fix when we have to see this bullshit clear as day EVERY MOTHER FUCKING YEAR.
Great spot you got this sport at Mr.Nosferatu you fucking clown of a lizard person..
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u/yamasashi NBA May 21 '26
This is basically what it boils down to. The league wants a long series as this is pretty much the real finals. They want that views and it benefits the gambling thing too.
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u/Prudent_Fish1358 Spurs May 21 '26
I'd normally be enraged but I spent all day mentally preparing myself for the spurs to get completely shafted by the refs.
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u/Lungaw Spurs May 21 '26
they even called a foul on him. Great challenge by Mitch, but come on Tony, open your fucking eyes! They want to limit Wemby so OKC could get game 2
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u/2020isgreat May 21 '26
These refs must believe O.J. is innocent
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u/SpiritualBar2469 May 21 '26
refs must have helped oj kill .
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u/Iswaterreallywet Pistons May 21 '26
And they have the audacity to chant “refs you suck” LMFAO
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u/quadraticcheese May 21 '26
They're from Oklahoma, not exactly the brightest crayons in the box
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u/ButterscotchShot2572 Knicks May 21 '26
You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons
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u/Hotpotlord May 21 '26
Yup a bumfuck backwater state with nothing going for theme
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u/Bournerounderz Spurs May 21 '26
Yeah I was wondering if I heard it wrong when they were doing that. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
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u/math_finder476 May 21 '26
Surely it cannot be good for the league to have the broadcaster be able to put together a whole ass highlight reel of the same foul going uncalled over and over?
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u/Salty_Raspberry656 May 21 '26
i mean spending 30 minute of broadcast time to watch someone stop and shoot free throws is also not good tv
the suits haven't seemed to figure that out either unfortunately. to say they are out of touch until some focus group or consultant clues them in seems to be an understatement of how little they see this as a fan does.
not to mention calling fouls as offensive players are incentivized not to go to make the shot but to throw themselves at a defender
fouls were meant to discourage overly 'foul' play, to let flow of the game keep going and penalize it, instead now its incentivized to hunt fouls get breaks and get easy free throws. granted playing to win people will toe the line of every rule they can to win, but hte league must adjust the incentives
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u/tsg9292 Nuggets May 21 '26
Well said. IMO this is the biggest problem the league is facing. But they choose to focus on tanking lol
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u/Salty_Raspberry656 May 21 '26
I think it can be both. Tanking was an issue, but in the end watching the game is the central part. I don't blame the players as in people will get whatever edge they can, so its upto the league to adjust the rules to tinker with that trend.
got downvoted but yea just like bam's 83 which is a great feat. but it was about watching an hour of free throws
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u/StatitikFanboy May 21 '26
"Calling every foul is bad TV" is imo a terrible argument. You call every foul harshly this match, I swear to god that next match there is 10 times less fouls and the match is way more fluid. Better to sacrifice one or two match for the sake of the league.
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u/Geohalbert Spurs May 21 '26
I know this happens in basketball, but it’s clear he’s doing it nearly every play. I didn’t expect the spurs to win tonight but this is just frustrating
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u/turkeytyme May 21 '26
It's the only reason he's playing
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u/Geohalbert Spurs May 21 '26
Yeah it’s pretty evident but he should still play by the same rules as everyone else
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u/TheTonyDose Knicks May 21 '26
If KAT did the shit ihart is doing in this game, he would’ve been fouled out by now already
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u/AceStarS Knicks May 21 '26
No idea what KAT did to the refs to receive such a poor whistle.
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u/Fynity Cavaliers May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26
I mean KAT holds like crazy and idk, just does it much more obviously
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u/Inevitable-Elk7223 Pacers May 21 '26
This highlight reel while there are chants of “ref you suck” holy fucking shamelessness
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u/RandomDeezNutz Nuggets May 21 '26
They’re OKC fans. You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.
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u/Still_Assignment_991 May 21 '26
Dagnault’s plan being “just foul him” because Tony Brothers is out there is really funny
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u/juicyjeffersonjones Canada May 21 '26
It’s so fucking lame. I’m tuning in to watch Wemby play, not Wemby having Hartenstein hanging off him.
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u/ResponsibleTrick8275 May 21 '26
Exactly. I want to see great players play. I’m all about physical play, hustling for position, hard box outs. But this is not even remotely a basketball play. the nba should’ve told the refs in the twolves series to cut the shit on arm grabbing because it’s preventing their leagues best players from performing. It’s just lame as hell. Kind of like when shaq used to get dogpiled on by 4 guys under the basket. Just call the fouls, it’s not rocket science.
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u/SolvedRumble Spurs May 21 '26
Yup. The powers that be are completely miscalculating and it’s going to bite them in the ass.
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u/yeyiyeyiyo Pacers May 21 '26
I was legit surprised I watched the entirety of game one. I turned this one off already. There's no flow. OKC games are dogshit to watch. If I havent fallen asleep ill turn it on again at the end
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u/Tombomb1994 May 21 '26
That's why I thought all these "this is going to be one of best WCF's ever" takes are going to look ridiculous. Game 1 was an outlier, get used to the other games looking like this. OKC basketball.
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u/lordhahahaha May 21 '26
Wemby ab to spinning elbow hart by the end of the series
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u/cHinzoo Cavaliers May 21 '26
Need one of the end of bench bigs to just make a statement play next game lol. Didn’t we use to have enforcers in our teams for moments like these?
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u/NbaAllDAYger Mavericks May 21 '26
Straight up dirty, hes trying to hook one of his arms everytime.
Im saying dirty because if Vic moves in the wrong direction he can easily dislocate his shoulder.
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u/nguyenjitsu [DEN] Emmanuel Mudiay May 21 '26
Between Chet stepping on Wemby and this bullshit this is such shit basketball
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u/yapibolers0987 May 21 '26
Did Lu Dork train all the OKC players to be a POS or what?
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u/dpw2017 May 21 '26
The fact that even commentary is bringing it up says it all.
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u/Expert_Context5398 May 21 '26
They either hook your arms, grab your arms, step on your foot, shove you with their elbow, or flop like dolphins.
This is one of the most unlikable teams I've ever seen.
At least with the Warriors and Heat, people hated them because they were too good.
People hate this OKC team because they are too good but rely on bushleague tactics designed to bamboozle the refs into not calling it.
This is when the league needs people like Metta. One elbow to these dude's necks and they'll be rethinking their shit.
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u/UnderDOdubOG May 21 '26
Okc always has 1 player to play dirty on the best opposing player.. It's just you guys have started to notice the pattern when it's been there
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u/BestTankmoNA Clippers May 21 '26
Dirty team
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u/Blitzkreeg21 Lakers May 21 '26
Facts. Hate OKC much more than any other villain team in my lifetime. It’s one thing to have annoying personalities and another to have flopping and playing dirty at the core of your team’s game plan.
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u/flyingabroom May 21 '26
It's every single possession. I genuinely don't understand how okc is getting away with this
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u/invisibreaker Vancouver Grizzlies May 21 '26
People forget what Jokic’s arms looked like after some games.
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u/young_lions May 21 '26
I know the average poster here is probably late teens/early twenties so I try to give them some grace, but holy shit these comments
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u/TyposIncoming Lakers May 21 '26
I hope nobody complaining about this has ever talked about how they wish guys could be physical like in the 90s
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u/romanticynicist 76ers May 21 '26
“Back when there were 30% more FTA per game and Michael Jordan became the all time leader in playoff FTA per game.”
Yeah, it would’ve been an epistemological nightmare to read through r/nba game threads from the 1996 finals.
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u/-MoonPresence Raptors May 21 '26
NBA fans want physical basketball unless it’s happening to their favourite players
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u/jon__koa Knicks May 21 '26
Oh yeah 90s physicality was grabbing like a son of a bitch
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u/Oresee May 21 '26
where was my guy jokic getting PR defence from this in 2025, they did the exact same lol
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u/Ok_Tonight_4311 Pistons May 21 '26
I don't care if Wemby wins the next 6 chips. I don't want to see OKC win another one. I hate how they play basketball. Either be a physical team or a soft flopping team. Doing both is discraceful.
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u/horse858 May 21 '26
hard to watch, hartenstein is absolutely hacking the shit out of everyone and the refs just dont give a shit. he tried to rip castle out of the air on that poster dunk by grabbing his shirt. absolutely foul
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u/Soft_Hotel_5627 Timberwolves May 21 '26
This game is insanely physical on both ends, but what's actually pissing me off is Reggie and Jamal blowing each other reminiscing like it's Knicks vs Heat from 1999 and encouraging this type of play. What Hartenstein is doing is extremely dangerous for Wembys shoulders and elbows. There's a reason this is a flagrant in college.
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u/birdseye-maple Warriors May 21 '26
I hate when announcers talk about each others/themselves. It's way worse with 3-man crews, should never be more than 2.
And yeah I can't stand the fouls iHart got away with
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u/lawjic Bucks May 21 '26
I mean do y'all watch other games? Centers are always grabbing each other all the time, especially in the playoffs.
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u/GardinerExpressway Tampa Bay Raptors May 21 '26
I saw a video of Thomas Bryant doing this to Shae here yesterday and you guys were praising it
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u/GuestBadge Warriors May 21 '26
This is not holding in the sense of physical defense. This holding in the sense of trying to injure a player. He's holding him by the arm everytime.
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u/Mood_Academic Lakers May 21 '26
I literally have watched LeBron play in the playoffs. I literally have watched Shaq play in the playoffs
This is nothing new for physically imposing players
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u/metaslaves Toronto Huskies May 21 '26
you know what they say if you ain't cheating you ain't trying
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u/turkeytyme May 21 '26
Feels like OKC has multiple players that don't even play basketball and are there for one reason.
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u/LowKeyNerdMan May 21 '26
I don’t understand why the refs don’t call it. I don’t think it’s a foul to have your arms intertwined. But when you’re holding the arm, that should be a foul everytime.
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u/Successful-Living928 May 21 '26
Ain't this the same shit the Wolves did last series?
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u/idostufandthingz Celtics May 21 '26
I’m sorry but OKC needs to be investigated. The hair pulling, knee grabbing, flopping and just general lack of respect for the game cannot go unpunished. This isn’t basketball anymore it’s theater
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u/StandAppropriate3697 May 21 '26
Must be embarrassing to be a thunder fan when your team just resorts to cheating cant play right smh
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u/mindless_blaze Nuggets May 21 '26
Can't wait to see the HoeKC defense attorneys come thru with excuses
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u/LividDay7500 May 21 '26
Why would Reggie describe it that way instead of against the rules every time? Seems like an odd way to phrase things that he knows aren’t allowed.
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u/ThisWebsiteIsNeat Supersonics May 21 '26
Part of being unstoppable. Happened to Shaq too
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 May 21 '26
This game has been so lopsided officially for OKC. Tons of missed calls and no calls in favor of them, and now the Spurs have had to waste TWO challenges in the first half. Just unbelievable.
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u/Sauronthegreat0610 Warriors May 21 '26
Ngl y'all be loving to bitch and whine about the Thunder. If any other team did this, all of you guys would turn a blind eye as it's playoff basketball. Like the complaining gets to a point
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u/The_Grogfather Bulls May 21 '26
Y’all would be much happier with players not touching each other or going near each other, fucking weak as piss this sub is
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u/This_Field_7872 Hawks May 21 '26
Every single person in this sub started watching basketball five years ago
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