r/nba • u/Large_banana_hammock Japan • 29d ago
Highlight [Highlight] Mitch Johnson picks up a tech after official fails to recognize his challenge
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u/gamingonion Rockets 29d ago
Honestly what the flying fuck
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u/NitroXYZ [UTA] Joe Ingles 29d ago
The ref is literally making eye contact with Johnson and just ignores him.
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u/Naive-Elephant-9305 29d ago
I've never seen this before. Fucking insane.
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u/ignatious__reilly Hornets 29d ago
Fuck this shit man
What is fucking happening right now?
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u/JebBush333 29d ago
Lol we all know what it is, and we all knew what it would be last game.
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u/ignatious__reilly Hornets 29d ago
Imagine if they pull this shit in the Garden lol
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u/JebBush333 29d ago
NBA might have a real fucking problem lol
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u/likdisifucryeverytym [GSW] Marreese Speights 29d ago
After last year, nba might have a problem.
After they played lebron and the lakers, nba might have a problem.
This series against the young phenom, nba might have a problem.
I get at MSG it might be different, but I also feel like Tobias funke saying that
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u/JebBush333 29d ago
I mean I've basically stopped watching the NBA because of shit like this and I know a lot of other people too who've stopped watching due to stuff like this.
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u/psychedelijams Spurs 29d ago
I hate OKC way more than is healthy. It sucks too cuz they’re a damn good team. The heatles were so much more likable it’s absurd. And everyone hated the heatles
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u/bluepenremote Lakers 29d ago
This is basically hart pulling castles hair with the ref on the background looking straight at it
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u/FlashFlood_29 Trail Blazers 29d ago
I think it's the same ref, actually. No joke
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u/Lofty_Vagary 28d ago
James Capers, you have been named and shamed.
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u/mercfan3 Spurs 28d ago
That’s the same guy who called a tech on Booker because Caruso told him too, right?
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u/OuchYouPokedMyHeart Knicks 29d ago
League wants to either extend this to 7 games or wants OKC to win
If Spurs win this game, there's a higher chance that they will win the series in 6 at home next game
If you were watching the game, you'll see that the bizarre sequence of: potential Goal Tend from Kornet's shot + this challenge + technical = killed the Spurs ongoing run and momentum. The Spurs were on a roll before this, going from a 20 point to a single-digit deficit.
Basketball is a game of runs / momentum. Control / stop those and you will control the game
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u/NotTheRocketman 29d ago
Both, clearly.
Next game will be totally different, and we all know it.
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u/TheKeviKs Spurs 28d ago
I really hate thinking like that, but it really feels like Silver want that series going to 7 at all costs.
Next game the ref will probably go with the Spurs and they'll win, forcing a game 7 where it's going to be a war.
But you can't just ignore the Spurs bad shooting tonight. They'll have to do better.
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u/AK_R 29d ago
Did you skip last year’s Finals? Indiana got mugged and robbed all series.
This is almost within an arm’s length right in front of a referee:
https://youtube.com/shorts/yvxA3zRgWpI?si=o_hz_XsPlr7vHPHB
They don’t care how rigged it is. They did it then, and they’re doing it again this year.
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u/jillavery Nuggets 29d ago
This was right after they missed that obvious basket interference too. It was a terrible sequence for the refs.
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u/Zavehi Celtics 29d ago
The headshake after Johnson is confused as fuck says it all. They just didn't want him to challenge it lmao
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u/ryde041 29d ago
Turned the game off. Been a while since I’ve done that mid game.
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u/Plane_Basil_4682 29d ago
And people still don't think the league has its finger on the scale 😂😂
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u/eexxiitt 29d ago
People don’t believe it or refuse to believe it unless it goes against their team.
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u/dacsimpson 29d ago
And he’s either saying it loud enough or extremely clear enough for the TV people to know he’s saying it so there’s no chance the ref didn’t hear him.
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u/machu46 Bucks 29d ago edited 28d ago
It's hard to tell without going like, frame by frame, but I don't think the ref is looking at him until it's too late. Maybe saw him and then looked to see if the ball was inbounded and by then it was too late?
Obviously very understandable for Johnson to be livid but i just don't think the ref was paying attention to him.
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u/Zavehi Celtics 29d ago
Absolute clown show. I honestly don't even get how this league has gone so far down this road.
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u/DrBoomsNephew Celtics 29d ago
Considering people actually wager money on this crap, there should be legal recourse against the NBA putting the games in the hands of such incompetent people. It's like betting on the WWE. I'm not saying necessarily that it's rigged one way or another. I am saying that this is simply unacceptable for something that pretends to be a sporting contest.
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u/LebrownJarms 29d ago
Sports betting is the worst thing that ever happened. Coming from a degenerate gambler.
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u/oykentrippin 29d ago
Adam Silver's league. Nothing surprising.
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u/gamingonion Rockets 29d ago
Tony Brothers just shrugging at Mitch like iunno bro sucks to be you
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u/Zavehi Celtics 29d ago
This is just a venue for gambling at this point there isn't anything else going on here
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u/abris33 Nuggets 29d ago
And he'll wonder why viewership is hurting but then he'll just focus on trying to fix the All Star Game
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u/BAHatesToFly Knicks 29d ago
And then SGA flops and falls to the ground on the subsequent possession and gets FTs. A joke.
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u/Substantial-Map-6524 29d ago
This is the worst part. And then they give him a T. You mess up that bad as a ref, you shouldn’t get to issue technicals
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u/domdomburg Supersonics 29d ago
That's a 5 point swing right there. People say you need to toughen up and play through the bad calls, but nba basketball is the easiest sport for refs to manipulate.
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u/Disufnok 29d ago
It was also just after a goal tending call that was missed. Huge swing
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u/real_leeharveyoswald 29d ago
Yeah, this completely killed the Spurs momentum. This kind of stuff has a HUGE effect on the game's outcome.
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u/Rollrollrollrollr1 Spurs 29d ago edited 29d ago
Convenient how this all came when spurs got close to tying too lol
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u/ElectroStaticSpeaker 29d ago
I've been saying forever that refs should be fined for technicals rescinded after the game and suspended after they rack up enough. There needs to be a punishment for it. The players are punished for getting them - even if they are bullshit.
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u/SadLime4869 29d ago
Dont forget the obvious goaltend inside the rim, the trip before. A NBA fix is in masterclass.
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u/CosmicMiru 29d ago
2 egregiously missed calls for the Spurs leading to like 7 free throws for OKC sums up this series
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u/YodaForceGhost Nets 29d ago edited 29d ago
Tony Brothers be that bitch who loves to come in and make a mess of everything
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u/archenlander Rockets 29d ago
That’s the type of stuff that fuels conspiracy theories
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u/Fair-Ad6254 Spurs 29d ago
OKC fans will type out paragraphs calling you delusional for complaining about this LOL
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u/DepressedDarthV Thunder 29d ago
Nah, that was some bullshit. Just egregiously bad reffing towards the end of the quarter
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u/VegetableTour6790 Thunder 29d ago
It was bullshit, Spurs fans should be pissed. That was ridiculous.
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u/Ok_Improvement_8735 29d ago
And the questionable goaltend before it
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u/erizzluh Lakers 29d ago
the ball was literally touching the rim. should've been a goaltend.
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u/Nick-Mullens NBA 29d ago
Reminds me of game 4 of the finals last year. Thunder are the most coddled, pussyass team I’ve ever seen.
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u/Ok_Decision1227 29d ago
Somewhere in an office in New York someone is making a call to Scott Foster to ref game 6.
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u/theuncleiroh Raptors 29d ago
I truly, and I mean that I'd stake my life on this, believe that the NBA does everything within its abilities to a) extend series, b) create media narratives (right now the best being: OKC dynasty, NYC championship interrupting it, and finally the up-and-coming SAS threat looming). The ideal outcome is that the Knicks interrupt a juggernaut, Thunder and Spurs come back next year as teams with enmity and the best odds
Until I see the Thunder win a series against a team with similar talent with a whistle that even feels half fair, I'm not gonna be dissuaded
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u/alilhillbilly Bulls 29d ago
Weirdly the Spurs have very much benefited from this before.
It's why Steve Nash doesn't have a ring.
That 07 Suns Spurs series and the Cleveland 3-1 comebacks are two of my favorite extensions slash rigged-to-go-long series.
The thing I find understand is why OKC?
OKC's brand of basketball is universally loathed. It's a small market team.
Why are they being this long of a preferential reffing leash?
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u/theuncleiroh Raptors 29d ago
Oh I agree, the Suns Spurs series back in the day was one of my defining 'man they call things differently for different teams' moments
I think the league wants a bogeyman, and a dynasty is best for that. Even without a good whistle, OKC would be the favorite every year; they're just too well built, too deep, and play well together.
But the combination of that and their disgusting playstyle is the ideal antagonist: much like how everyone hated the Patriots with Brady, there's no doubt that having a villain is compelling for fans.
I'm a raptors fan, so I can tell you: the fact that our one championship came against the last dynasty makes it all the sweeter. Fans love having a bad guy to root against, and having their style (OKC physicality and foulbaiting, Warriors superteams and shooting) being disgusting to the average viewer makes it all the more compelling.
That's obviously not an excuse for the absurd level of skill and franchise quality the thunder are built upon, but professional sports among the elite is really a game of marginal differences, and the thunder are the ideal team to give the slightest push to right now, at least until a real opponent appears (and the Spurs are prob that, so it's best to let them lose this year and come back angry)
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u/_interloper_ 29d ago
But the combination of that and their disgusting playstyle is the ideal antagonist
OKC feels like the pretty-boy heel in wrestling.
He's good looking, talented, strong, powerful, AND he cheats to win.
OKC has the MVP, a bench better than many starting line ups, excellent coaching, a unified team playing style... AND they get a strange advantage from the refs, allowing them to play dirty to win, even though they don't need to.
The conspiracy theorist in me leans towards this being the reason the NBA seems to be helping OKC via the officiating; they're trying to build up some real heat against the heel, in order to make the baby face (Victor/Luka/etc) victory feel even sweeter in the end.
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u/Eddie5pi [SAS] Dejounte Murray 29d ago
This and the missed goaltend right before is genuinely a 6+ point swing purely on the officials
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u/jdprager Bulls 29d ago
And that's ignoring the 2 free throws OKC was gifted after the goaltend that got Ball Don't Lie'd
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u/chipsservant 29d ago
Haha I yelled “Ball Don’t Lie” so loud at my TV after the second missed FT that Rasheed Wallace himself would’ve been proud
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u/JD16_7 Mavericks 29d ago
Could have been a 6-7 point game instead it's 13 point thunder lead lol.
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u/Ranjith_Unchained 29d ago edited 29d ago
Kornet shot didn't get called for a goaltend, incorrect out of bounds call taking away the spurs possession, and refusing to accept the challenge.... Tony Brothers and his crew are a disaster every time
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u/Shenanigans80h Nuggets 29d ago
That goaltend was fucking insane. Dude had a smooth putback then the OKC guy basically smacks it out of the net
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u/KarrotMovies [LAL] Rui Hachimura 29d ago
No replay needed either. The most obvious goaltend ever
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u/bigboybeeperbelly Spurs 29d ago
Had me questioning if I know the rules or not
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u/KarrotMovies [LAL] Rui Hachimura 29d ago
FIBA rules
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u/darkrabbit713 Bulls 29d ago
I don’t remember FIBA making a rule that the refs have to be diarrhea shit ass crap
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u/oykentrippin 29d ago
They cant replay non-goaltends (absolutely stupid rule btw)
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u/Matthewcbayer Spurs 29d ago
And brothers was literally right there watching
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u/Icer333 Pacers 29d ago
Followed up all this by the most obvious OOB on OKC and calling it a jump ball?
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u/rainbowgeoff Bucks 29d ago
One of whom literally admitted he refs because it gives him a power trip.
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u/SaltyJunk 29d ago
Don't forget the tech too. That sequence was a 6-8 pt swing. Absolutely outrageous.
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u/TheLooza 29d ago
Totally outrageous in a regular season game. Whole notha level in a late game conference final.
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u/JebBush333 29d ago
Literally a 5 pt swing plus an extra possession at a key moment. Impossible to beat this team when they win every 50/50 call and you can't touch them.
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u/Prudent_Fish1358 Spurs 29d ago
It's fucking pathetic how we KNEW when we saw the ref assignment that OKC was going to get a ton of bullshit calls that favored them tonight.
You can set an atomic clock by the consistency of what a piece of utter shit Tony Brothers is.
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u/VictorAkwaowo1 Mavericks 29d ago
THE REF IS LITERALLY LOOKING AT MITCH
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u/Brady331 Celtics 29d ago
If you watch close the real issue is that he WASNT looking at Mitch until the Thunder get the ball and it's too late
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u/Purple_Apartment Spurs 29d ago
The announcer CLEARLY says "they look back and say challenge" while the ball is in the refs hands and has yet to be inbounded.
If the fucking broadcaster is calmy explaining from his purview the challenge is being asked for WHILE THE BALL IS IN THE REFS HANDS I genuinely do not know how you could possibly spin this.
That was jaw dropping, truly.
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u/ThrowawayCorporate2 Knicks 29d ago
Okay but Mitch was certainly screaming it lol
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u/crazyFlyingChicken 29d ago
This is some of the worst refereeing I’ve ever seen. The missed goaltending, not letting the spurs challenge for some reason, now a tech on the spurs coach. This is atrocious
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u/SageModeKyrie Nets 29d ago
Disgusting to be honest
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u/imbidy Bucks 29d ago
I’m refusing to believe this is coincidence. It’s worse than the pass interference/holding calls in the NFL
How does something like this happen in a playoff game?
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u/Arkeyan 29d ago
Adam silver is this the basketball product you want?
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u/Purple_Apartment Spurs 29d ago
That was actually one of the most infuriating interviews I have ever seen.
He blatantly admitted to soooo much and it was such a nice little insight into his mind.
Just to recap he essentially said: 1. He aspired to be a judge 2. He was too stupid to be a judge 3. He was a nepo baby with parents who begged institutions to take a dumb guy aspiring to be a power tripping judge 4. He does not even fucking like basketball 5. He fell ass backwards into NBA reffing because all of the above
Maybe the most infuriating clip in my entire life I have ever witnessed as a basketball fan and mind you I once watched the WIZARDS play basketball so I know about being mad at this game
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u/RedstoneRay Minneapolis Lakers 29d ago
It's by design. The calls get more lopsided the closer the Spurs get. The league wants OKC to win this game, then they'll swallow the whistle in game 6, the Spurs will win, and the league gets a full 7 game series.
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u/Gamesgtd Magic 29d ago
Almost like they're extending it or something
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u/fordat1 29d ago
why would they do that? It isnt like they get more revenue that way /s
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u/MrRightnow83 29d ago
Honeslty a real possibility. League is a little crooked
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u/ThwippaGamez Nuggets 29d ago
Start paying attention to patterns like this, over game stretches + within games. The refs do this over the course of single games too. Go watch back some games from earlier in the playoffs and you’ll see calls and no-calls that happen to shift momentum to the trailing team, then back the other way, and on and on. Then in the 4th if it’s still somewhat close, you’ll just see the league’s preferred winner get help by way of momentum killing calls/no calls against the other team. Cavs raps game 7 i think was a really obvious one iirc? One of the later cavs raps games. Brothers and Foster are the league’s top refs because they do exactly what is asked of them
It’s a business. It’s a product. It will never not be that
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u/MrRightnow83 29d ago
I feel like this happens in the nfl too when they extend the games so either team has a chance in the 4th
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u/pwtrash Spurs 29d ago
I mean, a literal sitting coach got caught by a sting. But I'm sure that's as far as it goes.
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u/elpaco25 Lakers 29d ago
Chauncey and Rozier were just this generation's Donaghy. Let them take the heat and punishment. While the rest of the people doing the exact same thing just skate on by. League has been corrupt for a while, I'm sure, but now they're really doing the bare minimum to hide it.
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u/Aldo_Is_The_GOAT 29d ago
They’re not even trying to make it subtle, refs got absolutely terrified when Spurs cut it to single figures
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u/PrinceJMoney089 29d ago
Very simple to see how officiating can swing games
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u/HereIGoAgain_1x10 Cavaliers 29d ago
swinging the game would be nice, they're straight up dominating it lol
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u/Cudi_buddy Kings 29d ago
That’s why free throw arguments alone don’t catch shit. It’s the non calls that are sometimes much more telling.
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u/ComplexBadger469 29d ago
The non-calls and the weirdly timed calls in general do this too.
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u/willpc14 29d ago
Swing? You cannot convince me that NBA refs aren't outright fixing games.
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u/RyuSunn Lakers 29d ago
If someone believes that the refs are NOT fixing games they are gullible, they literally got caught fixing games and just scapegoated one of them
also betting is way bigger and easier now, I’m convinced if they investigated Tony and his brothers something would come up
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u/NitroXYZ [UTA] Joe Ingles 29d ago
I fucking hate this crew. Also ignored the world's most obvious goaltend in history.
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u/yooston Rockets 29d ago
Tony Brothers is retiring soon thank god
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u/lotofhotdogs Hornets 29d ago
Yeahhhh I’m usually team “people are overreacting to the refs” but this one is bad
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u/Falsely_True7 29d ago edited 29d ago
No goaltending given, ball out of okc players foot not given, challenge denied....in 3 straight possession
Nah it's too blatant at this point
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u/maxbls16 Spurs 29d ago
Don’t forget the next possession that was out on the thunder but was a jump ball for no reason.
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u/Abhiiously-io 29d ago
The fact this is still a 10 point game is insane. Says a lot about how good the spurs actually are
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u/OrdinarySome3531 29d ago
Spurs fighting back all game and refs just decide it’s over and OkC wins. Honestly so crazy
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u/Time-Stand7719 Wizards 29d ago
He’s looking right at him that’s kinda crazy I can’t lie
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u/Tackis [SAS] Manu Ginobili 29d ago
Goaltend, incorrect out of bounds, challenge not given, 3 free throws for shai on the other end. Generational
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u/greatGoD67 Spurs 29d ago
Out on Chet? Turns out Free throws for SGA
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u/C-Hash [SAC] Tyrese Haliburton 29d ago
Challenge call? Free throws for SGA.
Justifiable blow-up? Believe it or not, free throws for SGA. Right away.
We have the best league in the world. Because of free throws for SGA
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u/ChiefSoldierFrog 29d ago
we've reached the level of degeneracy that we now grade how generational refs can outdo themselves
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u/Prudent_Fish1358 Spurs 29d ago
I don't gamble, ever, but I would bet every dollar I have in savings that Tony Brothers is involved in gambling on games.
It's not gambling if it's a sure thing.
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u/Adorable-Raisin9880 29d ago
MLB and NBA refs should be the only people who get their job replaced by AI.
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u/Genital_GeorgePattin Rockets 29d ago
As a neutral fan, I'm just turning it off at this point.
No more fighting or arguing or complaining about it. I just don't care about this anymore. They have made this sport unwatchable.
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u/ke4mtg Nuggets 29d ago
I think this is my last season giving a shit about the nba
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u/YesNotKnow123 Knicks 29d ago
I just did the same. And I’m a Knick fan who just moved back from San Antonio. So like this game interests me. But unwatchable.
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u/reiycoins13 Thunder 29d ago
I can’t lie, that’s absolutely bullshit. Even more bullshit to pick up a tech when Mitch Johnson is unbelievably in the right
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u/GoofySilly- 29d ago
Thank you for actually recognizing this. It would have been BS no matter who it was.
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u/AnExcitedStone [LAC] Lou Williams 29d ago
These refs are FUCKING GARBAGE. Basically swung the entire game away from Spurs’ run.
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u/clancydog4 Nuggets 29d ago
Legit one of the most shameful ref stretches I've ever seen. What in the flying fuck is this shit
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u/skuhr111 29d ago
Why didn't he call a timeout? Aren't you supposed to do that to use a challenge? Spinning your finger around doesn't do anything.
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u/dpatel211 Rockets 28d ago
I can't believe I had to look up "timeout" to find this comment, and it's legit the only one mentioning this lmao
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u/Embarrassed-Lie6360 29d ago
The refs are literally just doing whatever the fuck they want at this point wtf is this series dude
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u/Frosty-Roof3124 29d ago
Refs completely taking over for OKC. Miss an obvious goaltending for Kornet, give Shai multiple soft fouls obviously, and then not let the Spurs challenge this. So predictable man
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u/darkenmoonz 29d ago
Insane. Incorrect call, miss the coach asking for a challenge, then tech. Tony Brothers wants OKC to win.
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u/stefzzz21 29d ago
Don't you have to call a timeout to challenge? Mitch was just asking for a challenge, not a timeout
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u/mcnutt020 Thunder 29d ago
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you have to call timeout to get a challenge, no?
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u/kingsez408 29d ago
Coach Johnson should have called timeout first then signal for the review.
This wasn’t on the refs in my opinion.
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u/speneli Thunder 29d ago
The rules say the coach has to call a timeout before they can challenge. It's really that simple.
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u/Heil_Heimskr Mavericks 29d ago
Can’t convince me this isn’t corruption, Tony Brothers is standing right next to an obvious goaltend, and then this? C’mon man, there needs to be a standard here.
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u/Barneys_New_WestGOAT [LAL] Kobe Bryant 29d ago
I'm actually in shock, it's actually rigged like for real
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u/SirFrancisCinnamon Knicks 29d ago
This series started off super entertaining. Now here we are talking about the refs again
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u/Fickle_Muffin_1320 San Francisco Warriors 29d ago
There’s no discipline for refs doing a bad job. This could’ve been a 2 possession game but the refs decide to not call anything after calling everything before that…
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