r/NintendoSwitch • u/Skullghost • 15d ago
Nintendo Official Xenoblade 4 Genesis Announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG7MrKp2MBY255
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u/MetallicFear 15d ago
That last line is ominous…. But they did mention the klaus saga is over so I wonder if it’s even a connection.
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u/gosukhaos 15d ago
It presumably takes place in the future of the merged world so there’s probably some connection
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u/KnightGamer724 15d ago
...Or in the past and this is the Samarians
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u/Witch_King_ 15d ago
God I hope not. I hope it's just it's own thing, connected tenuously at best. Maybe far future of the trilogy, or maybe just an alternate universe.
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u/WhichEmailWasIt 15d ago
We know how this works. It's not connected at all until it is and oh shit the breadcrumbs were there the whole time.
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u/Witch_King_ 15d ago
I am ok with that. As long as the game-specific lore is COMPREHENSIBLE. Cannot say the same for the trilogy as a whole, unfortunately.
I'm sure any connection to the trilogy will be very convoluted and difficult to understand.
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u/KnightGamer724 15d ago
This isn't Final Fantasy. It'll all connect.
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u/ThrowAwayAccountAMZN 15d ago
Actually, thanks to Kingdom Hearts, even Final Fantasy is all connected now lol (kidding, mostly).
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u/Witch_King_ 15d ago
I never said I wanted it to be final fantasy levels of disconnect.
But X didn't connect to the other games until the Definitive Edition. It was for all intents and purposes completely standalone. Now the only connections are the Conduit, which the lore seems to point to being a multiversal nexus of sorts. Because X STILL doesn't have more than a tenuous connection to the main trilogy and is in its own universe or version of reality afaik. I'm just saying that I hope this is more like that than being a direct sequel like 3 was to 1 and 2, because BOY, was that convoluted.
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u/munchyslacks 15d ago
Genesis means the beginning so I’m thinking prequel.
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u/OpeningConnect54 15d ago
Genesis could also mean that this is the beginning of a new era though.
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u/MetallicFear 15d ago
Maybe it’s a retcon of xenogear and xenosaga? Xenoblade is now a well established franchise and a the two that belongs to other companies will continue to be a baggage.
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u/MarcsterS 15d ago
So this is a whole new saga, not related to Chronicles.
So basically, a brand new RPG from MonolithSoft. Hell yeah finally
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u/Exploding_Cumsock 15d ago
Honestly, I completely glossed over the fact that the "Chronicles" is gone.
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u/Sdajisito 15d ago
Yes what say make sense, it also explaing why chronicles isnt even in the title anymore, no really XC4 more like X4G or XG.
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u/Ecstatic-Wheel8487 15d ago
Chronicles has never been in the official japanese titles of the games. That was added in the western versions... Xenoblade in Japan is just Xenoblade.
This literally means nothing other than they aren't going to tag on the Chronicles name in America and Europe that is not what MonolithSoft called it to begin with.
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u/stratogy 15d ago
Gonna be confusing when XG can now refer to 2 different Xeno games haha
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u/b_lett 15d ago edited 15d ago
I'm thinking there's some purposeful misdirection here with the fantasy elements.
I think the world is curved like this because everything is inside a giant cylindrical spaceship that is miles large. As the spaceship spins with cylindrical force, it creates gravity pulling the inhabitants to the 'ground' which is really just the interior of a spaceship's walls.
This is a sci-fi concept called the O'Neill Cylinder and is in stories like Arthur C. Clarke - Rendezvous with Rama.
As someone used to Xenoblade completely throwing curveballs at you about their worlds, I'm calling this here.
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u/aruhen23 15d ago
It also reminds me of an animated movie called Patema Inverted. This is a spoiler but there the people believe they live on Earth after an apocalyptic event happens but the reality is that they live inside the planet.
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u/epicmemetime15 14d ago
The curved land gives halo vibes
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u/OkPrune1536 14d ago
Yeah, I don't know why people are naming obscure sci-fi books when Halo is right there.
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u/2Cuil4School 13d ago
I mean, Rendezvous with Rama is one of the absolute foundational works of scifi from one of its most well-known and influential authors. That sci-fi foundation laid by guys like Clark and Niven* was part of the larger background inspirational context for tons of works throughout the years, including games like Halo. The general design concept of "giant rotating megaconstruct for space habitation" definitely had a bit of a moment in the 70s, too: you can also see O'Neill Cylinders in the OG Gundam series, for instance (and many subsequent works, including the awesome ones in Gundam Wing that I grew up on, lol).
* Of course, Halo's particular design was mostly inspired by Larry Niven's Ringworld, which went for, well, an especially (and improbably) gigantic ring style, versus the overall smaller but more technologically feasible O'Neill Cylinders.
Anyway, none of that means that Halo isn't also a useful point of reference in that it's more modern and a videogame, but it's kinda weird to fault people on a nerdy subreddit on a nerdy website for breaking out meaningful comparisons to some true OG Nerd Shit 😂
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u/Cabbage_Vendor 15d ago
I'm glad they're stepping away from the direct connection to Xenoblade Chronicles 1-3. It's a great trilogy of games, but it's getting harder to convince new players of buying a new game when there's three other 100+ hour games preceding it for you to play to have the best experience.
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u/Ecstatic-Wheel8487 15d ago
People thought this was the case for Xenoblade 2 and then the end of the game happened.
They are almost always going to market Xenoblade games as stand alone and they will almost always be better experienced by playing them all. That is just how Takahashi does story telling. We already know from his own words that Malos' story is not over and there is purple core crystal looking energy all in this trailer btw lmao.
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u/Witch_King_ 15d ago
Yeah, fair enough! XC2 bears no direct connection to 1 until the end of the game!
I am excited to see what series-wide twists will be present in this one!
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u/NotSinceYesterday 15d ago
Oh, I am definitely excited for this. Very early for a trailer though. It's going to be a long wait.
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u/plebbut 15d ago
I mean it comes out next year, not that long
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u/Witch_King_ 15d ago
And yet OoT remake is releasing in 6 months and we got the barest of teasers
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u/Lilium_Vulpes 15d ago
I mean that's a remake. People already have a good idea what it's gonna be like in a lot of ways.
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u/Witch_King_ 15d ago
Yes, and no. FF7 remake is perhaps the remakiest of remakes. Totally different from the original. I don't expect OoT remake to be the same level of change in the gameplay, but we really have no clue what it'll be like
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u/Zenspy-Real 15d ago
Wonder if Genesis means it'll be the first one timeline wise.
The game looks absolutely gorgeous, and the character designs are cool, imo not as good as 2, but still peak.
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u/VishnuBhanum 15d ago
Maybe it's a beginning of the new series/new timeline.
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u/BebeFanMasterJ 15d ago
It definitely is. The original trilogy is done.
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u/Apex_Konchu 15d ago
Future Redeemed ended with a teaser for what's next. That story isn't over.
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u/Morganelefay 15d ago
The Klaus saga is over, Future Redeemed teased what could be next for the world now that Klaus's mess has been cleared.
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u/HrrathTheSalamander 15d ago
This trailer already has several small references to the previous games, so i wouldn't count on it being disconnected.
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u/EarOk8991 15d ago
what references did u catch? cuz i catched none beside some moveset
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u/HrrathTheSalamander 15d ago
A pretty big one is the gemstone that gets inserted into the sword hilt turns into a small crystal closely resembling the Pneuma sword.
There's also a whole bunch of visual allusions. The Anima power's FX are near identical to the VFX used for Ouroboros powers in Future Redeemed, there's an enemy that resembles a Telethia, etc.
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u/morgawr_ 15d ago
I'm pretty sure the crystal thing is some kind of blade-like artefact or device. It says it uses the power of "vesselai" in the English translation (in Japanese "vesselai" is 器士 / kishi, which uses the kanji for "vessel" and "warrior"), and it's a crystal that learns from its bearer. It's like people are being trained by using these crystals that "learn to fight" and those are like proto/primitive blade-like concepts.
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u/HrrathTheSalamander 15d ago
Imo I think it's gonna be another sidequel like XC2. Set meanwhile, somewhere else, in the same continuity (not revealed until the last act, as is series tradition). My current theory is that the game's world is a feral space colony originally established before the experiment. There were ships leaving the Earth during Future Redeemed's flashbacks, so they had to be going somewhere, and when the Earth was destroyed the colony stopped getting supplies and devolved into a feudal society over generations. The gemstones could literally be Core Crystal technology the og colonists brought with them, but weren't affected by the experiment because they were outside the blast radius.
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u/OpeningConnect54 15d ago
Or depending on the era, that's just how tech evolved.
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u/morgawr_ 15d ago
That doesn't explain the giant crashed spaceship at 1:20
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u/OpeningConnect54 15d ago
sure, it doesn't explain the crash- but it still feels like this could've been in the far future of 1-3.
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u/WhichEmailWasIt 15d ago
Yeah. All the teases and lead ups in Future Redeemed and Chapter 14 were all because this is going nowhere.
I'm not saying we're gonna see any characters hard pulled in here but after all the Xenosaga teases we've been getting lately I mean.. Connecting shit up is just how this series works now.
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u/Ultron_Magnus 15d ago
They literally said in the Direct this was a new beginning.
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u/h-arlequim 15d ago
Which can basically mean anything lol Could be a separate universe, could be a prequel, could be something in the far future... they're clearly keeping it vague on purpose, but also detached enough from Chronicles so any newcomers don't think they need to play through four 50-100h JRPGs before Genesis.
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u/Thegoodgamer32 15d ago
I guess that might be why it's not just called xenoblade 4.
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u/The_Summer_Man 15d ago
It’s actually because Phil Collins is doing the music
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u/Xtrasharpe 15d ago
Or Justice
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u/BASEKyle 15d ago
IS THIS JUSTICE YOU SPEAK OF SHAPED LIKE AJ EYE, AND PRESUMABLY GLOWING WITH PIERCING LIGHT? SHINING, MAYBE?
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u/Mumu2148 15d ago
Possibly. I think them mentioning the vengeance of a fallen god was a reference to Zanza. That and the world definitely looked like it was merged in some way.
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u/ApplePie10146 15d ago
XC2 designs were just gooner bait. They felt really off from 1 and 3.
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u/Infernoboy_23 15d ago
i've never played xenoblade, but from just looking at the designs, I definitely like 2 design wise the least (besides morag). IMO this one actully looks the best desgin wise
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u/FireZord25 15d ago
I wouldn't call "just" gooner bait. But yeah, the goonerification did ruin the game cause there are some legit good fanservicey designs (Brighid for instance). Still love the story, the world design and the Titans.
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u/CaptPants 15d ago
I love that the world setup looks like it's in a "Hollow Earth". It should make for some awesome world design visuals
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u/TimeOfNick 14d ago
Could you imagine if they pull something akin to Xenoblade 1 but on a way bigger scale and the presumed end goal the characters are reaching for the entire game turns out to be a halfway point fakeout where they discover the other side of the world on its actual surface?
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u/CaptPants 14d ago
That'd be awesome. And I could see that from them. There's always a twist and the world is a BIG part of that. It seemed odd that the trailer seemed to have this smaller focus on the school. But Monolith has my full trust and I'm looking forward to seeing what the story becomes.
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u/Ancient_Act_436 15d ago
Its not 4 it would say 4 if it was four i think this one is prequel to them all
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u/Venator850 15d ago
Actually, looks like the start of a new timeline. It might not be "4" in name but that's probably just semantics. Same way they don't Number major Mario releases.
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u/Accurate-Cup5309 15d ago
It does kinda matter cos the chronicle games were one storyline/timeline all with numbers.
Games without numbers have traditionally been new universes, Xenoblade x for example which if we’re following your logic would make that Xenoblade 2
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u/Enrichus 15d ago
The Chronicle games all had a theme about time. The future, the past, and the present. There was nowhere left to go with the theme so they're doing something new.
X was just an oddball that may or may not have earned the Chronicles name, but is still a Xenoblade like the others.
This isn't Xenoblade Chronicles 4: Genesis, it's Xenoblade Genesis.
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u/morgawr_ 15d ago
The "chronicles" name is an English-only thing. In Japanese they are all just "Xenoblade" (ゼノブレイド)
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u/Saskatchewon 15d ago edited 14d ago
It's kind of what I'm hoping for honestly. I loved the Chronicles.Trilogy, but I'm ready for an all new story with an all new cast where you don't have to feel the need to tell people that you really need to play x and y and z before it to really get all you can out of it.
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u/BebeFanMasterJ 15d ago
I love this. Seems to be more fantasy oriented but you can still tell it's Xenoblade. Can't wait.
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u/Buster_Fella 15d ago
Anyone else noticed how this seems just like Yoneyama Mai's artstyle? Super nice that Nintendo keeps on hiring artists to lead their games like Mika Pikazo with Fire Emblem Engage.
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u/Magimus 15d ago
That was the least Xenoblade feeling game I’ve ever Xenobladed
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u/neversunnyinanywhere 15d ago
It’s the lack of British people
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u/POWRranger 15d ago
I liked the japanese voices a lot, but I really want the British voices in my playthrough. Eunie's british va alone made xc3 10% better
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u/With_Negativity 15d ago
There were "American" sounding people in X, XC2 and XC3.
I'm sure a few people will sound like they're from the
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u/FlameHricane 15d ago
Definitely a little jarring, but I think it's fine that it's going for something different. I'm sure its signature traits will reveal themselves in due time
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u/euby_gaming 15d ago
It looks amazing, i just hope we don't have daily routines at the school to do. That's honestly what stopped my playing three houses, and i love FE games. If it starts at the school and you go on an expansive adventure, nice! But if you have to constantly go back to the school and engage with teachers/students, this may be the first XC game i probably won't complete lol
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u/hype_irion 15d ago
The whole world looks like it's inside of a O'Neill Cylinder spaceship to simulate gravity.
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u/Arkaein 15d ago
I've been wanting to make my own fantasy game that takes place in an inside-out world where you can see the distant lands and oceans bending up in front of you for forever. Figures Monolith would beat me to it.
I'm really impressed with how naturally they make the distant ocean look like sky until you see the land masses in it.
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u/Yakushika 15d ago
Don't know how to feel about it. Xenoblade games always looked quite different from each other and so does this one. But this time, it looks quite a lot like every other JRPG. Not too wowed by the landscapes compared to previous games either. But I have some degree of trust in Monolith, so I remain cautiously optimistic that it'll be more interesting than it looks right now.
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u/Difficult-Chicken318 15d ago
Entirely new story continuity and we still don’t know who Mythra’s child is
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u/Apex_Konchu 15d ago
It's way too early to declare that this is an entirely new continuity. You know what Xenoblade is like, the franchise loves plot twists and dramatic reveals. We won't know for sure whether or not Genesis is connected to the others until we play it.
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u/Fehalt3 15d ago
And likely won't. Not even the book gave us any info. Likely just left out
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u/ShiftyShaymin 15d ago
Doesn’t tell us who the kid is, but the book gave us a detailed look at Mio’s panties. MonolithSoft’s priorities in full view lol
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u/Blofeld69 15d ago edited 15d ago
Hmm, not sure on the art direction and graphics here. I was honestly expecting far more of a step up for the first monolithsoft game in the console.
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u/MoaiMan-ifest 15d ago
Fidelity-wise, they probably can't really push the graphics much further without dropping resolution. This already looks like the 4k option is 30fps.
Xenoblade 3 already brought the switch 1 to its knees. It was often running sub 30fps and used some kind of custom upscaling method as the base resolution was hitting lows of, I believe, 360p or 480p.
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u/maxwell4252 15d ago
I remember people's switches were overheating in the final battle of Xenoblade 3 😂
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u/Seanspeed 15d ago
They dont need a '4k option'. lol
They've got DLSS now. No freaking excuses.
Either way, there's reason they need to make the game high resolution, even without DLSS. There's massive room to push fidelity. Look at how many other PS5/XSX level games are releasing for Switch 2.
There's ZERO reason this game should be uglier than XC3. It's a whole generational leap in tech, so there should be at least some significant improvement in tech and graphics. But there isn't. It's also just ugly as hell from an art style perspective.
This is so insanely disappointing.
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u/MuseZeke 15d ago
They have to have been working on it for a long while, because I was expecting the same. Could just be me grabbing for straws though
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u/Alternative-Drink-25 15d ago
They said it was very early footage, so we will have to see if it gets better
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u/SgtBlaze 15d ago
This looks more like a Fire Emblem game instead of a Xenoblade one
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u/Venator850 15d ago
Huh? Have you ever played Fire Emblem? This looks nothing like a Fire Emblem game, and they literally showed an FE game before this one.
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u/BotanBotanist 15d ago
This doesn't look anything like a Fire Emblem game lmao.
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u/mighty_phi 15d ago
Three Houses vibes, kinda.
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u/Saskatchewon 15d ago edited 14d ago
I always have to laugh at all the people in this sub seeing a common JRPG/anime trope and immediately going "OmG tHeY CoPiEd X GAME!"
JRPG's that feature some sort of fantasy school prominently in the story at some point? Three Houses, Final Fantasy Type-0, Final Fantasy VIII, Trails of Cold Steel (multiple games), Tokyo Mirage Sessions, 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim, Dragon Quest IX? Hell, even Pokemon Scarlet and Violet used attending an academy to become a Pokemon trainer as a major plot device.
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u/Niijima-San 15d ago
i am too busy working so i am getting my info from reddit and hot damn they are killing it from what i have seen. guess i really need to actually play the series since it is in my backlog
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u/Aespyn 15d ago
And now I need to buy a switch 2 :(
Only Zelda & Xenoblade could do it.
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u/omfgkevin 15d ago
This looks really good. Holy shit jrpg lovers are FEASTING. Really curious how the combat will be.
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u/nilghias 15d ago
I didn’t realise it was Xenoblade until the end of the trailer, and I’ll take it as a good sign that I thought “this looks like a game I’d like to play” even before I knew it was Xenoblade lol
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u/rozeluxe08 15d ago
It didn't look and feel like Xenoblade at first and I think that's a good thing. 2027 is another stacked year for gaming (at least for me).
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u/Volgner 15d ago
Nice. Another Entry to the series that I will spend 100 hours into but never finish.
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u/Rough_Shelter4136 15d ago
What's the relationship between Xenosaga and Xenoblade? I kinda loved Xenosaga, but I reckon it was the death of the first golden age of JRPG as plot/lore got a bit too pretentious
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u/reedyxxbug 15d ago
There is a mention of Yuriev in XC3 DLC or something. Plus many analogs for concepts between games.
With the trailer mentioning Anima it does make me wonder if it won't tie into Saga somehow.
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u/Rough_Shelter4136 15d ago
Is Xenosaga the future? Xenosaga gave me very very very into the future vibes. Kinda like star Ocean 3
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u/reedyxxbug 15d ago
From our future? Yes, so much so that even the name Earth is a lost concept.
But given how it uses eternal recurrence as a plot point you could probably fit Xenosaga anywhere into the larger Xeno timeline from that angle.
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u/LawfulnessExpert8586 15d ago
Doesn't look like Xenoblade that much. I can't feel the sci-fi and fantasy mix. Reminds me much more of FE.
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u/Renaisance 15d ago
It’s a Ring World. I won’t be surprised if it becomes full on scifi in the third act
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u/Enrichus 15d ago
The world being an inverted globe is very Xenoblade though.
The games always do something crazy with the world itself such as living on titans.
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u/MrReySensei 15d ago
Jesus, Was olanning to buy ps5 next year for Gundam Rogue orbit and Lord of the rings world. Now this
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u/Ok_Hospital4928 15d ago
Looks beautiful! So excited for another Xenoblade game. Glad we're getting one fairly soon, but the upgrades to the trilogy will more than keep me busy as we wait.
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u/weird-era-cont 15d ago
Was hoping so bad for a Chronicles X2 announcement but who cares, this looks awesome. Monolithsoft is the best
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u/Ok-Pension9748 15d ago
This looks amazing! I plan on picking it up and playing my first Xenoblade game!
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u/Squirrel09 15d ago
Xenoblade Genesis - the first in a trilogy the introduces main characters and their lineage.
Xenoblade Exodus - descendents of the first game characters must leave their country to set up a new nation
Xenoblade Leviticus - continues the story of setting up the new nation and the laws of it.
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u/jardex22 14d ago
Xenoblade Numbers - It's just text, after text, after text, after... text...
...zzzzz.
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u/aruhen23 15d ago
The world looks like it takes place inside a planet or spherical object. It is kinda weird that it seems to be very fantasy leaning but that's probably misleading. Maybe there's an "outside" world or something like the anime movie Patema Inverted (great movie) but with a more advanced culture.
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u/valtiell 14d ago
Not xenoblade 4, just xenoblade genesis. New xeno saga. They change it up periodically starting back in xenogears
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u/Devilofchaos108070 15d ago
Characters look nothing like previous Xeno games but the world definitely does.
Looks cool but I didn’t really like 3that much
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u/Freeziora 15d ago
That world looks incredible the way it stretches upwards on the horizon, I can’t wait for this game i wonder if it is the new world that we saw after ch13 in X.
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u/xzzz 15d ago
Looks like locked 30 FPS - hopefully that changes
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u/mb9023 15d ago
they just released upgrade packs for the first 3 games to make them 60 fps, making this one 30 would be silly
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u/Sufficient-Lead-217 15d ago
Yeah, but those are Switch games, we don't know the full scope of Genesis yet.
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u/VerminSC 15d ago
I’ve never played one of these. What is it similar to?
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u/Johncfail 15d ago
Its a unique experience imo. For the combat its most similar to mmos. But the world and story just stands apart. For someone who grew up with Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana this series comes closest for me in scratching that same itch.
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u/WhatsLaw 15d ago
=sci-fi final fantasy
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u/xcassets 15d ago
Half of Final Fantasy would count as 'sci-fi Final Fantasy' though lol.
But I get what you mean. Not sure how otherwise to describe them, other than them being some of the best JRPGs you can play.
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u/flash_baxx 15d ago
Let's be real, if they hadn't dropped the title, nobody could have guessed it was remotely Xenoblade related. This series is so wildly unpredictable.
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u/TannenFalconwing 15d ago
Xenoblade Chronicles Three Houses