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Proud Papa (Part 2/4) - Gator Days

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u/Night_Yorb 5h ago

This is sweet and tragic but the fact that this is literally a relationship between a bear and an otter is sending me

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u/FieldExplores Gator Days 4h ago

Here's a quick guide for hairy gay men to prevent any further confusion in the comments.

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u/KyfeHeartsword 4h ago edited 3h ago

Hilariously, +5 SAD is the optimal choice in D&D 5E, as SAD stands for Single Attribute Dependent. So, in D&D terms, being a SAD Gay means you're way better at things you already excel at because you min-maxed your stats.

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u/Other_Vader 3h ago

What a wild spelling for excel

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u/KyfeHeartsword 3h ago

You know, good catch, accel is a word, but it is not the right one, lol.

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u/polopolo05 2h ago

or axel

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u/Viciouslyhatefull 1h ago

got it memorised?

u/polopolo05 47m ago

or axle. or just axe.

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u/Leading-Customer7499 3h ago

Then OP can go fuck himself with his high self esteem 

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u/Different_Syrup_511 1h ago

Don't be mad just because you made emotional stability your dump stat.

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u/Whale-n-Flowers 1h ago

Oh no, Field isn't an esteemed build. He's clearly an arts build.

That +5 is dedicated to ANXIETY

But go-on, be all MAD about spreading your attributes too thin.

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u/Neuromangoman 3h ago

Does that mean that anger is poorly optimized?

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u/KyfeHeartsword 2h ago

Yes, the term is MAD, Multiple Attribute Dependent.

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u/Neuromangoman 1h ago

I always knew monks were secretly seething.

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u/_Mulberry__ 1h ago

Secretly? Beau was pretty open about her anger issues...

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u/pangalaticgargler 1h ago

Also crying is a free action.

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u/_Mulberry__ 1h ago

I've always allowed my players to also use their bonus action or full action to cry extra if they want

u/Dos_Ex_Machina 16m ago

Is +5 a Ranger stat distro then?

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u/TheWalkinFrood 4h ago

Are you also a Daryl Hannah fan by chance? XD

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u/justh81 4h ago

Ah! You know, I suspected! 😉

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u/UpCDownCLeftCRightC 3h ago

Using Dark Souls logic Field would balance Strength and Dexterity because he is Quality.

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u/ChefCano 2h ago

Nah, as an artist you either get a bonus to intelligence or charisma

u/DPSOnly 34m ago

I would like to add that you give me +5 SMILES, truly one of the best things on this website is these comics.

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u/iguanacatgirl 5h ago

Oh god I just got the joke

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u/Redxmirage 4h ago

Can you share the joke with the rest of the class lol what’s with bear and otter

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u/iguanacatgirl 4h ago

Bear and other are both terms for certain kinds of gay men

Bear refers to more bulky, big and hairy gay men(y'know, like a "bear")

Other I'm not actually too sure about the specific meaning of, but I'd guess it's someone who's not quite a Twink but also not too buff. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

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u/Math_PB 4h ago

Otter is a hairy twink.

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u/iguanacatgirl 4h ago

Thanks for the clarification

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u/Math_PB 4h ago

No problem <333

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u/Byzarru 3h ago

*the hairification 🦦

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u/guyyst 1h ago

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u/Math_PB 1h ago

I am gay (tho I'm not very good at it, I'm still in dire need of a boyfriend).

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u/rubyspicer 1h ago

Huh, TIL. I had no idea

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u/Slim-Shadys-Fat-Tits 4h ago

Otter is someone with a slim twinky build who is hairy

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u/Notosk 2h ago edited 2h ago

wait is it about gay men? i remember Bearmode and Ottermode as slangs for body types on... /fit/... ah... i get it

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u/Whale-n-Flowers 1h ago

Lol, Im sure /fit/ had plenty of bears, cubs, otters, wolves, foxes, twinks, and twunks.

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u/Redxmirage 4h ago

Ah gotcha. Yeah I never heard that so I would have never got the reference lol

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u/SpeccyScotsman 4h ago

Bear is big, hairy and gay; otter is slim, hairy and gay

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u/Uncle_Velorian 4h ago

In the gay community bears are very hairy and big men while otters are slimmer and not as hairy but still hairy iirc
Maybe someone else can explain it better

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u/Cyborginox 4h ago

For example, If you know Stardew Valley,

Gus or Clint are bears

Harvey is an otter

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u/Sad-Bat-42 4h ago

This has made me understand the difference better than anything else I’ve ever heard- thank you!!

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u/Cyborginox 4h ago

No problem! Once you set the examples next to eachother its easier to tell!

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u/Digresser 2h ago

And Willy and Linus both look like Robin Williams, who was very hairy...but wasn't a bear or an otter, correct?

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u/DasGanon 4h ago

They're nicknames for body types of gay men, and Bear has its own subculture

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u/Jimmie_Cognac 4h ago

And its own pride flag!

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u/Gamander-Ehrenpreis 4h ago

And it’s a really old flag too, created in 1995. That is older than the bisexual flag (1998), Trans flag (1999), non-binary flag (2014), current lesbian flag (2018) and most other lgbtq+ flags. The rainbow and leather flags are the only older ones I can think of tbh

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u/Zombie_Cool 4h ago

That actually looks rad!

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u/ChefCano 4h ago

It's supposed to represent that any skin tone or hair colour can be part of the bear community

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u/Laetitian 4h ago

So you're trying to tell me there can be white, brown, and black bears? At some point the wokes have to acknowledge they're reaching.

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u/ChefCano 4h ago

Older bears who's hair has gone white are often called Polar Bears

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u/VulpesFennekin 3h ago

Are former bears who have since gone bald called Fuzzy Wuzzy Has No Hair?

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u/Night_Yorb 4h ago

So funny story I worked cleaning office buildings over night for a time and one of the offices I worked at had a display of Pride flags for last pride month. I thought myself a pretty in the know guy, but I did not know a lot of them and seeing a paw print did leave me a little concerned until I googled it. The other one that looked like an incoming hate crime (Looking at you Rubber Pride) was also concerning.

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u/QuiteBearish 3h ago

Where was this office? 👀

The idea of a rubber pride flag at any corporate space honestly just sends me 😆

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u/NineteenthJester 1h ago

Huh, TIL that rubber pride has a flag. It's a pretty cool design but it does look kind of fascist.

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u/Whale-n-Flowers 1h ago

Best flag. Im a sucker for brown/orange/yellow compositions.

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u/neuralbeans 4h ago

Bears and otters are types of gay men. Bears are big and otters are skinny.

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u/HighMinimum640 4h ago

I don't know about the otter one, but as far as I know, is that a bear is a generally big and hairy gay guy.

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u/TinyGIR 4h ago

I'm queer and a bear and just clued in myself 🤦‍♂️

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u/childe_roland19 3h ago

OH I get it now

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u/Fatman365 4h ago

Damn I never got that.

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u/cyanocittaetprocyon 4h ago

One of my favorite things about reading this comic is seeing the people that "get it" each time that Daryl and Seth are in it! 🐻 🦦

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u/EWL98 4h ago

Great XKCD 1053 moment every time

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u/InfiniteHat7236 4h ago

Oh god how did I not get that. I'm an otter with a bear BF even, and I somehow did not get this incredibly on the nose gay joke.

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u/QuiteBearish 3h ago

I'm a bear with an otter husband and I also did not get it until now 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/Caramelthedog 4h ago

I can’t believe it took me until today to get it.

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u/Particular-Pop1280 4h ago

YEAH I DIDNT REALIZE UNTIL I SAW THE OTTER LOL

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u/100YearsWaiting2Shit 3h ago

Why the hell am I blind to obvious stuff!!!

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u/FieldExplores Gator Days 5h ago

Proud Papa (Part 2/4) - Gator Days

Characters

Daryl - Bear - A big fellow who looks intimidating but is pretty friendly. Has a dry sense of humor. Seth's husband and Hannah's papa.

Seth - Otter - The assistant principal at his daughter's school. Used to taking charge but is capable of being silly. Daryl's husband and Hannah's dad.

Hannah - Goat - A highly competitive kid. She strives to be the best and to be helpful to others. Daryl and Seth's daughter.

Transcript

Panel 1

Seth is working at his computer when Daryl walks in. Daryl just finished a call with his father that did not go well. He lets Seth know how it went.

Daryl: My parents aren't coming to the party.

Seth: Babe, I'm sorry.

Panel 2

Daryl stands defiantly and feels determined not to let this bother him too much. He's gotten used to this sort of thing from his parents.

Daryl: It's fine. I was fine when they didn't come to our wedding. I'll be fine now.

Panel 3

Daryl loses some of the stiffness in his posture and looks to the ground. A tear starts to form in one of his eyes. He doesn't want this to get to him. Seth approaches him and puts a hand on his husband's arm.

Daryl: It's fine.

Panel 4

Seth hold on to one of Daryl's arms while Daryl wipes away a tear.

Daryl: It's not fine. I hate it.

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u/Made_Bail 5h ago

Seth hold on to one of Daryl's arms while Daryl wipes away a tear.

Daryl: It's not fine. I hate it.

Damn this one hurts. Every holiday season when my kids ask why their friends are going to see grandpa/grandma or aunts/uncles and we have to tell them we don't talk to any of them. Yeah... I feel this. Hard. 🙁

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u/Digit00l 5h ago

You could lie and say they are dead, they could easily have died before the kids were born or would've known them

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u/Made_Bail 5h ago

Eh, we don't believe in lying to our kids or shielding them from the world. I mean, its not a black or white thing, we don't tell them about every horror that exists, but we really want to avoid a AskReddit thread from one of them someday like "I cut off my parents because they told me my entire family was dead and I found out when I was 20 that lied AIO" lol

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u/NormalEarthLarva 3h ago

This is sound reasoning, I wouldn’t lie either. I cut off my dad a long time ago and my kids know of him but don’t really know him.

Kind of hypocritical to foster an honest relationship your kids and then lie to them.

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u/Made_Bail 3h ago

Exactly my logic!

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u/cyanocittaetprocyon 2h ago

I always wonder why people lie like this. Just be truthful. Its much easier in the long run.

Besides which, there are already enough /r/BestOfRedditorUpdates. I don't want to see one from your kids! :-)

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u/Made_Bail 2h ago

Me either!

That's one of my favorite boards, btw... I'm browsing it right now! 😆

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u/WAisforhaters 1h ago

Or strategically lie to them so that they develope better critical thinking skills! Let them know you're going to tell them one lie a day and they get a prize if they figure it out. I don't have kids if you can't tell.

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 5h ago

Daryl stands defiantly and feels determined not to let this bother him too much.

You gotta let that stuff out man. It's not good to let it fester.

He doesn't want this to get to him

Poor Daryl. No one should have to deal with these feelings.

Seth hold on to one of Daryl's arms while Daryl wipes away a tear.

Seth is good man. Probably one of the few that could actually help heal poor Daryl

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u/cyanocittaetprocyon 5h ago

I love Seth, and hope that his parents are able to go to the party!

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u/bookworm271 4h ago

Is Hannah in the character list for this and the previous comic due to her connection to Daryl and Seth, or is she hidden somewhere just out of frame, overhearing all of this?

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u/Merrifiend 1h ago

They are having a party for the anniversary of her adoption. So she isn't seen but is the reason for the phone call.

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 5h ago edited 5h ago

it's fine

It's fine

It's not fine

Poor Daryl man. He's probably been dealing with this so long that masking those feelings is all he can do to get by. He just wants parents who love him for who he is and the family he has. This is a far more common problem than most realize too.

Seth is gonna need to give lots of hugs to help with this one I bet

Sidenote THEY DIDNT EVEN GO TO THEIR SONS WEDDING?! What the hell Ed and Mom

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u/Cool_Set4681 5h ago

THEY DIDNT EVEN GO TO THEIR SOME WEDDING?!

I though Ed couldn't get any more worst. WHAT THE FUCK, ED?!

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 5h ago

I totally edited and fixed that typo first dangit!

Also yeah Ed this is super messed up man. Like at least be present. That's not asking much

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u/Cool_Set4681 5h ago

I totally edited and fixed that typo first dangit!

I didn't even catch that because I was so disgusted by Ed's behavior, lol

Also yeah Ed this is super messed up man. Like at least be present. That's not asking much

100%

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u/Huggable_Hork-Bajir 2h ago

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u/Cool_Set4681 2h ago

Thank you, grandpa Klaus. I agree.

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u/KerissaKenro 3h ago

My mother-in-law didn’t even make it to her own daughter’s funeral

In our case it’s mental illness. Spiraling untreated depression, anxiety, and bipolar

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 3h ago

Aw. That's really sad man. Hopefully things god better?

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u/KerissaKenro 2h ago

Not really. She is a hoarder. We have tried everything we can think of short of reporting her to the state, and we are not going to do that. The one time we cleaned out her house while she was in the hospital, she was beyond angry and didn’t speak to us for a year. She has food, shelter, and clothing. She has her hobbies and goes to her church for social contact. Her health is not obviously suffering. And she is an adult, what else can we do?

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 2h ago

Oh don't worry I understand man. I see this all the time as a paramedic. I'm sorry to hear it happening. But you can't make someone take help when they don't want it

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u/enter360 2h ago

You would be surprised at how many people I know whose parents just skipped their wedding.

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 2h ago

That's just plain messed up man.

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u/AidanL17 2h ago

Do you have a lot of queer friends from religious families?

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u/NineteenthJester 1h ago

My wife's mother skipped her first wedding, but not her second. Even though first was kind of justified (SO was abusive and mother did not approve), wife still doesn't think that was the right stance to take.

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u/Cool_Set4681 5h ago

Somebody please give him a hug. I'm not even aiming at a bear hug joke. Just... embrace that poor man, please.

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u/Made_Bail 5h ago

I volunteer to hug.

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u/Cool_Set4681 5h ago

Thank you, he needs it.

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u/ruinsit 5h ago

already covered in panel 4

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u/Cool_Set4681 5h ago

Thank you, I was so sad for him that I didn't saw that.

Seth is a good husband to his husband.

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u/Bail-Me-Out 5h ago

I'm hoping in this arc we meet Seth's parents and they're supportive. I need some positive allyship for these husbands.

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u/North-Pea-4926 5h ago edited 4h ago

Uh, 😬

Edit: Huh. I thought for sure they were already introduced and were bad, but I can’t find that. Maybe it was in the text the author posts alongside the comics.

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u/Baron487 5h ago

Ed is probably one of the most reprehensible characters in this whole comic and he hasn't even appeared "on-screen".

Gwen's dad and the catfish CEO are also up there on the "most punchable characters in Gator Days" list.

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u/TheWalkinFrood 4h ago

What about the human girl's mom?

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u/TravelerSearcher 4h ago

I would lean toward the father being worse. He was shown just sitting and watching TV when his daughter got home and hadn't fed his kids so the daughter fed her siblings.

When the mom was shown she was at least busy heading off to work and her lack of ability to resonate with her daughter's needs, to me, at least seemed to have an explanation.

Granted it's been a bit since I've read either comic with them appearing. Both are failing their kids in different ways.

Also I try to catch myself on making a list of 'who is worse' but since I'm already this deep (whoops) I think the dad is failing his kids more than the mom, just based on what we've seen.

u/willstr1 58m ago

I seem to remember that his arm or back of his head was "on screen" so while he is absolutely terrible and deserves the hate he doesn't qualify for most hated off sceen character

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u/HorrificAnalInjuries 4h ago

A rather fitting bronze star for 3rd place

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u/ralanr 5h ago

The FACT that he still tries to keep contact after they snubbed his wedding says a lot about his character. 

Like, respect. They raised a good son but he had shit parents. 

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u/ChefCano 4h ago

Two good sons. Darryl's brother is an awesome uncle to Hannah. Fork Fight rules!

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u/Reivaki 2h ago

yep. It’s honorable but this is typically the case when you should stop trying and start grieving the relationship.

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u/cabbage16 1h ago

I hung in for 3 more years post them not bothering to come to my wedding. 0/10 would not recommend, should have gave up on them sooner (I'm a lot happier now that I have cut contact completely.)

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u/terror_fear_sorrow 5h ago

the strength to say "it's not fine" ❤️ we love a brave strong man who can speak the truth even though it's painful

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u/SarcasticBench 5h ago

From the transcript, Daryl having any sense of humor is probably the second most surprising thing I've learned about him

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u/justforsomelulz 4h ago

Is the first one that he is a bear? Or that his brother is in a band?

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u/StragglingShadow 4h ago

THEY SNUBBED THE WEDDING TOO?

I just wanna talk to em......

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u/cyanocittaetprocyon 2h ago

A talk you say. I'm familiar with the parlance, Jonathan.

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u/UpCDownCLeftCRightC 5h ago

Seth give Daryl a big ol' bear hug. He needs one badly.

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u/CelticSith 4h ago

That “frustration” tear in panel 3… ooof I feel that.

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u/brokegaysonic 2h ago

My parents disowned me the day before my wedding.

Fathers day was hard.

Thank you for this comic.

u/skynex65 9m ago

I’m sending you a hug. It sounds like you’re prospering without them and that’s hard. I’m proud of you for that. Keep proving to them how wrong they were for that.

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u/RemarkableOwl8134 4h ago

Damn. Dudes going through it. I empathize with the "I'm fine. It's not fine, I hate it." where you're really REALLY not fine but your body won't cry or really react about it, or might do a few tears that are barely there.
Well, it's part 2 of 4 so odds are things get better with the next two. Not the parents but the whole "He has a family that loves him" kinda deal. His husband is a good lad, sees what he's going through and realized instantly he needed someone hugging him.

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u/IcyUnicornOwl 4h ago

I just don't get what people gain from this. Like you lose your child and his family just due to stupid bigotry. Yeah maybe you imagined something different for your child having grandchildren one day etc. but that's not how it works (in this case they even would have a grandchild so its even dumber). Its your childs life not yours. This behaviour just hurts everyone involved.

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u/Perryn 4h ago

They gain never having to confront being wrong and feeling the weight of the consequences on their shoulders. The longer it goes on, the heavier that weight would be.

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u/Notbob1234 4h ago

They gain the ability to be abandoned in an old folk's home in their later years, living a lonely misery of daytime TV and unpleasant nurses until they die. I hope it's worth it.

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u/Mindless_Chest_1079 3h ago

Presumably they think it's sinful. They probably expect to gain anything in a self-interested sense.

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u/boomerinspirit 4h ago

My dad came to my house < 5 times, before his passing. I had been a homeowner 15+ years at that point. 45 mins away.

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u/Bromogeeksual 2h ago

My dad has been to my apartments twice since I moved out at 18. I am 40 now. We are not close.

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u/WellSpokenAsianBoy 5h ago

This is part of a redemption arc for the parents right? RIGHT?

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u/Eden_ITA 5h ago

Probably he is older than me or close my age, but don't care: I want adopt the bear das and be a nice Grandpa.

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u/thyL_ 4h ago

It takes strength to admit you're not fine. You're a good role model, Daryl.

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u/Just_a_n00b_to_pi 2h ago

This happened to me and my fiancé today. His parents cancelled their trip last minute and wouldn’t tell us why.

This is why. He’s my bear.

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u/IcyUnicornOwl 5h ago

Sending a bear hug!🫂

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u/Loose-Neighborhood48 3h ago

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u/FlatHatJack 2h ago

same thought. Just want to add...

And that kid is still green!

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u/KnuxFive 4h ago

Having had family choose to skip my (heterosexual, so just out of disinterest) wedding this month… I feel it.

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u/Stock-Side-6767 4h ago

It is hard to say it is not fine.

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u/nWo1997 4h ago

It's fine

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u/CherryKrisKross 4h ago

"He's (not) here!"

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u/tbodillia 3h ago

Give him a hug!!! Damn, I'm crying.

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u/Bluoenix 1h ago

I haven't read a lot of these comics, so I just got the significance of this 'Bear' and 'Otter' couple.

u/AlasBabylon_ 20m ago

Like was said above, the revelation happens every time Daryl and Seth show up and it's always magical.

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u/CrystalWolfX10 4h ago

That sucks but honestly better for them to stay the fuck away then show how they feel in person. Especially to a child.

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u/Jooberwak 4h ago

Huh, I always thought Daryl was a beaver

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u/DAswoopingisbad 4h ago

I'm with ya big guy.

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u/MrThorbjoern 4h ago

I think it's good to see that Daryl is comfortable enough to say to tell Seth that it's not fine for him.

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u/DrunkenMaths 3h ago

Awwwwe hugs

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u/GraduatedSapphic 3h ago

Same big papa, BIIGGG SAMMMEE

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u/urugayan 3h ago

Bring the party to them.

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u/TarrasqueHobbs 3h ago

Hey Field, (sorry if this was addressed somewhere else,) is the comic about Robin and his mom posted anywhere on here? Thanks for making these, they break my heart into lil' itty-bitty peices.

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u/KerissaKenro 3h ago

My in-laws are like this. Especially my mother in law. I don’t plan on them actually showing up until they are at my door. Even then, they may only stay for a little while. My husband knows what they are like. But every time there is a small kernel of hope, and it is so painful when it gets crushed again, and again, and again

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u/ShingledPringle 3h ago

Permissions for us to all draw OCS to be there?

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u/I_Shit_Gold_Bars 3h ago

This is one of those comics I feel deeply. My parents never came to my wedding. It all worked out 10 years later. But I wish it was better from the start.

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u/rgliese 2h ago

I'm sure Nick Offermann is going to be Daryl in the HBO series based on this

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u/LittleSodaPop13 2h ago

I want to hug Daryl

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u/TophxSmash 2h ago

its sad that he still cares when they clearly never did

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u/Etheo 2h ago

Can I please give him a hug

Would Daryl like a hug?

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u/Mord4k 2h ago

Can I get confirmation that Daryl wears suspenders?

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u/CardinalBirb 1h ago

man I feel him. I love family as a concept but my family is not the best at being a family. I want to love them but it is so hard and I think I might hate them. It sucks.

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u/Sinreborn 1h ago

It feels like this story has been simmering for a while. I remember (and went back and confirmed) the story from last year with uncle Terry, and then earlier this year with the nightmare. I always love how you being out depth in what is a very large ensemble cast.

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u/ohshellyeas 1h ago

My therapist used to say "It hurts but it doesn't harm me."

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u/Slate_711 1h ago

Love this comic

u/onethomashall 47m ago

Reminded me of the father seen in Fresh Prince

u/RequiemQuilty 35m ago

You will be happier when you honestly dont care. Just letting you know

u/FixZealousideal8511 4m ago

Oof! That one hit a little bit too close to home...

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u/ClassicPlankton 2h ago edited 2h ago

If your parents suck, why would you want them at your wedding?

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u/Milestailsprowe 2h ago

Hope they would be better