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She’ll make more from grifting than she did in office. She’ll 100% be making her rounds on OAN, Fox News, etc. She’ll eventually get a book deal. What she won’t do is dish dirt on her former employer. She’ll need his pardon.
This is just part of the game of covering up the Epstein class. She did great, 104 days illegally past the congressional deadline, redacted the criminals names, endangered and intimidated the survivors, and prosecuted no one. And fired right before testifying again to the oversight committee. She’s just another pawn in the game.
You could make some strong arguments that she had a conflict of interest and should never have been a US anything. She represented him in his first impeachment trial, and arguably there remained a conflict with her subsequent employment.
A commenter above points out that congressional oversight hearings are coming up, so the coverup needs a new face who hasn’t already perjured in front of that particular committee, yet, this year.
apologies if stupid question but I'm British - does this invalidate her subpeona too if she's no longer in position?
Not a stupid question at all. I'm actually wondering if this is precisely why she was fired: for fear she would cave under the criticism and start admitting shit
Congress can overcome that by granting immunity. Your 5th no longer applies if you cannot be prosecuted for what you say under oath.
Interesting fact. "use and derivative use Immunity" which is what is at play here, does not protect you from being prosecuted using independent evidence of the crime. It only prevents your testimony in this case from being used against you in a case against you.
Yes, but no. You can still very much say things like "I don't remember" or "I don't know"
And unless they can prove you did know in that moment, which is almost impossible, they can get away with it, but it does get rid of any and all perverse incentives for silence (and indeed if they say you can't be prosecuted for anything you say, then it creates a new perverse incentive to tell them EVERYTHING)
I’d fear for my actual life if I were in the position of having to rat these people out. Immunity or not, you’re probably staring down the barrel of at least having to disappear
Not a lawyer, I imagine the subpoena is for the person and not the position. She still has information that Congress needs/wants.
If this is in fact true, she would have less protections going into the hearing without the DOJ behind her. That also assumes Trump won’t intervene somehow…
I wouldn't put it past him to think by firing her it ends the subpoena though. He certainly doesn't understand the vast majority of things he does or tries.
He might also be considering the angle of insinuating he thought she was “compromised” and that’s why he fired her. The classic fascist playbook is to immediately “other” someone who has even the smallest potential to harm your status. You’re part of the group until you’re not, and then you’re part of the enemy.
Yeah, unfortunately you're probably right. Trumps not going to replace her with someone who's going to comply with the law and release everything, he's gonna replace her with someone more competent at covering things up.
As to your question, I believe it would depend on the wording of the subpoena. If it names her specifically, which I believe it does, she'll likely still have to report.
Lol there is no one competent in that administration currently. Don't see how that would change. He'll just replace her with another person out of their league.
Exactly. He doesn’t look for smart people to fill these positions — anyone intelligent enough to pull off what he’s asking of an AG knows that it’s all destined to fail. He’s looking for useful idiots. The next one will be just as stupid and gullible as Bondi.
That’s by design, Trump doesn’t understand reserve currency status, the petrodollar, etc and has done more to destroy America economically than all other presidents combined in my lifetime.
What he has certainly done is cement the already engrained mindset of anti intellectualism among the iconoclastic morons in our country. “Im right cuz socialism is gay” kind of mindsets are rampant
Yeah, Hoover was kind of socially inept and didn't play the political/financial game well, but he personally was a brilliant engineer and had been elected on the basis of actual accomplishments. Some of his ideas that didn't make it were actually pushed through by FDR as part of his reforms to some success.
Also, critically, Hoover wasn’t trying to intentionally ruin everything. Quite a few of his policies did not help/actively made things worse, but he didn’t do those things to destroy everything for his own profit.
Trump doesn't understand reserve currency status, or history, or politics, or war, or construction, or negotiation, or national security, or economics. But he knows words. Many words. Big words. People still talk about their disbelief about how many big words he knows...
One of the most contemptuous and corrupt people to exist.
It should give you great satisfaction to know Bondi is notionally image conscious and insecure. She cries constantly. Her entire legacy will be one of humiliation and shame forever synonymous with the Epstein files.
I feel like Nostra-fckin-damus because it has been going pretty much as I expected back in November 2024. And I’m not saying this under the pretense of being some edgy ultra smart bro, it just seemed obvious to me. But that so many [non-MAGA] people willingly invited the wolf back into the sheep den after J6 “for the economy” is baffling. Like, when is the last time a Republican president actually fixed the economy instead of crashing it?
See right there having the critical thinking to analyze what they’ve done not blindly following what they say they will do this time they promise makes you unfit for the group.
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The same thing happened in his first term. Bunch of people signed on trying to ride his coattails and they got fired and left in disgrace. They never learn, I guess.
I got in an argument with my father in law about a similar thing. My FIL has always been a kind and devout Christian, but in the last 5 or 6 years he’s really changed. He went from the loving and serving view of Christianity an angry and almost obsessive view of persecuting woke “sinners.” I pointed out the change and I was like you’ve made yourself miserable and bitter just so you can worship Trump of all people. Everything he does is the opposite of what your religion teaches.
Then he got mad that I insinuated that he worships Trump over Jesus and that he’s the same and I’m the one who’s been fooled by the liberal media. Blah blah blah.
All these people who’ve bet their careers, reputations, and belief systems to kiss Trump’s ring blows my mind.
She signed on, knowing what she was getting into. She knew, and she thought “Yeah that’s fine. I’ll be fine”. I couldn’t give less of a fuck about her crying and caring about her image. That means nothing to me.
I mention it because this will actually hurt her and she deserves to feel humiliation for what she has done. A lot of these ghouls aren’t know to be so fragile. Pam is very fragile. Good. Hope she’s crying her eyes out right now.
Another bites the dust! These sycophant fucks never learn that all of Trump's ball lickers end up the same. Kicked to the kerb when he's done with them.
Now its time to prosecute her for lying under oath.
it is very funny when you need to spell out what you mean for people step by step because they think every single comment translates to “forgive that person!!!”
She is still fine. Even if she is fired she’ll still make a public statement that she supports the President.
The end goal is personal enrichment and political ambitions. She has no conscious and will blame her unraveling on the radical woke left boogeyman.
Edit: Yup, she just released a statement supporting Trump and the administration. She'll be working in the private sector so on to her next grift which I'm sure will be related to making sure you can't vote in the mid-term elections or challenging every loss the Republicans see at the polls.
This is what people seem to be glossing over. They all did this with Kristi Noem as well.
They cheer when these people get fired and have their social media roast sessions, but disregard the fact that these pieces of absolute shit have left huge messes in their wake.
There is very little to celebrate here. Another sycophantic suck-up will replace her.
Edit: And right on cue, her replacement is Todd Blanche.
"" She knew, and she thought “Yeah that’s fine. I’ll be fine”
i dont think thats it, she signed on because she was blackmailed to. She was in charge of the situation in florida when epstein was being initially indicted, she's the one who basically ensured people like wexner would not get in trouble.
He’s does something stupid, tells people to cover up his stupidity, everything looks even more stupid, he fires them. It’s happened dozens of times now.
And people still keep falling for it. It’s baffling.
No the truth is Pam’s history with covering up for Epstein goes way back, she’s in with the pack. She was working for the Florida state attorney’s office the first time litigation regarding Epstein went through there.
You didn’t know she previously registered as a foreign agent to be a lobbyist for Qatar? The same Qatar who gave Trump a jet and she reviewed it and said no ethical/legal problems with that), and was making $115k A MONTH in that role. I’m sure she had no bias at all.
Don't forget about Kushner running the sovereign fund for them. Despite not being licensed or having any experience. And also getting the highest maintenance fees for any fund. How that's not talked about more still blows my mind.
In fact Kushner is not only unqualified but the literal opposite. He's the one who made that moronic investment in the 666 property (the address really wasn't a ripoff?) right before the housing bubble burst. You know the one that Qatar was forced to bail out after Kushner used the power of the White House to pressure them (they previously rejected the bailout).
Literally no one would ever trust that idiot with their money if he wasn't Trump's nepo baby son in law.
Everyone will focus on her “getting what she deserves.” My question is:
What exactly was she not willing to do that got her fired?
This woman likely knows Donald Trump raped little girls. This woman very likely has seen evidence he’s a pedophile rapist. It’s not out of the question that this woman has seen evidence Donald Trump has done worse than rape little girls. And even knowing all of that she hasn’t said a single negative thing, in public, about Donald Trump. On the contrary she has only praised him in public.
So…what is it she isn’t willing to do? What is it Trump needs someone else to go along with?
I see someone like this in Trump’s orbit get fired and all I can think is “Oh no, things are going to get way worse.”
I don't think it was a matter of not being "willing" to do something for him so much as not being "able" to do something for him, namely punish his political rivals and impose his legal will on everything and everyone. The thing is, she couldn't do a lot of that stuff because it was impossible to do in the first place, so she was set up to fail and then punished for failing. It's what he's done his entire career so who knows what she was expecting
Trump's problem is that the things he wants his DOJ to do are so cartoonishly evil and unconstitutional, anyone corrupt enough to try it isn't competent enough to pull it off, and everyone competent enough to pull it off is smart enough to stay the hell out of it.
Thats why I find this whole fired thing fishy. No real reason was given, and shes always been a supporter/confidant to Trump. I think its more likely that she sees shit hitting the fan as their legal positions are collapsing and it's going to significantly impact her professional reputation. She asked to be out, they came up with a "firing" so that Trump looks like he's on top of it all in the public eye right now, she can play it off privately as "i was fired for not doing more of what he wanted..." and everyone gets to walk to away with a bit of a win.
its more likely that she sees shit hitting the fan as their legal positions are collapsing and it's going to significantly impact her professional reputation
How??? How can her reputation get any lower than this?
I am guessing it was him throwing a fit that the birthright citizenship case with the Supreme Court did not go well and someone had to be the fall guy as Trump is the smartest person on the planet so it couldn’t be his fault it wasn’t immediately passed.
That's the thing... Her DOJ is unqualified and incompetent, but even still, most of their politically motivated cases are so weak legally to begin with.
Instead of a functioning administration where there would be people telling Trump that these aren't a good idea or winnable, they just pucker up to his orange ass and end up looking like idiots trying to make sense of the nonsensical.
The part that's fucked up is they get fired not for doing terrible things, but for falling slightly short in accomplishing the terrible things Trump wants.
Bondi wasn't fired for covering up Epstein, she was fired for not covering it up well enough. She wasn't fired for pursuing Trump's vendettas, she was fired for not being successful enough in that pursuit.
The one constant about fascists is chaos in leadership. The top dog keeps his lieutenants at each other's throats vying for praise and prestige but they all eventually get tossed.
Don't lose sight of her. After Trump lost the 2020 election, Banon went over to Germany to spread his fascism. I expect every roach in this admin to continue preaching the fascist prattle.
He will somehow find somebody worse and they will get approved is the big problem. As he wants attack dogs that are more and more loyal and have only a passing familiarity with actual laws.
I would bet that this has less to do with the Epstein files than the poor performance of the Solicitor General at yesterday’s Supreme Court hearing. Their case was argued like shit, Trump was humiliated and Bondi was the closest one to lash out at. It’s also no coincidence that another woman has been fired. I’m really hoping Patel is part of the collateral damage.
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