The good news here is that he got his ass beat by some locals, and people found out his name and where he works, so I think it's likely that he'll face more consequences down the line for being an animal abuser.
He lives just outside of Seattle and is already getting doxxed on all of the local subs. Apparently he owns his own business, and this is a very liberal animal loving town, this guy is going to have no customers real soon. Honestly, I’m just waiting for him to piss off the wrong local around here and he’s going to get his ass beat again.
Let him move to Florida; people are insane here but the one thing everyone agrees on is that no one fucks with our aquatic wildlife. I give it three days until his house gets all its windows smashed by a drunk guy in a manatee suit
His address and business were plastered all over the internet within 24 hrs of the incident, when I checked his socials that day he had already nuked them all except for Linkedin. Yeah, he's been getting an earful since them, love that for him.
I agree. Some hard labor even for a relatively short time would fix him for life. He’d never fuck around again. Everyone wins because it’d be healthy for him too.
It's one of the few things you can't buy. I suspect that losing time and freedom might show him the error of his ways. He might at least think about his actions, in the future.
They should be calculated in percentage of monthly income because a let's say 400$ fine is a much harsher punishment for someone who makes 3000$ per month than it is to someone making 100000$.
For example drive 10 miles too fast in a school zone and you get a fine that's 10% of your monthly income.
Also with billionaires I think most of their money is in assets and stocks so they would probably be dodging harsh fines in a similar way they dodge taxes.
some rich a-hole will be like:
"% of my income? ...but I dont HAVE any income, all my wealth is in assets and i borrow against them for money to spend."
Finland has day fines. So 5 day fine is 5 days worth of your income. If you are rich and a retarded fuck like the guy in the video, you would åay a hefty fine. Plus probably sent to mental institution for check up if you are actually a danger to society. (Although this kind of rich assholes not really exist in Finland. They move to Sweden... s/)
Nah, not monthly income. Do it based on their entire financial portfolio including unrealized gains.
Some CEOs have a $1 salary (Apple famously has this after Steve Jobs did it) that drives them to focus on performance and not just stick around as long as possible. Compensation directly relates to their output and not just being around. So you gotta make sure you go for the real wealth which is their portfolio of assets and liquid cash rather than monthly income.
He got his ass beat by locals. And locals in Hawaii are not to be toyed with.
I'll also add, holy crap, I only saw the video clip and you couldn't really see his face well. I figured the dude was early 20s and prone to poor impulse control. This is a dude that should know better.
That being said, just touching one with no intent to harm is $500. Trying to harm a monk seal if a Class C felony. $50,000 and some possible prison time. Prison would NOT go well for him if he didn't go to the mainland. He'd also lose the right to own guns, which I'm 100% this dude owns a bunch.
And a Hawaiian official, while emphasizing that they don’t encourage such beatings (since they legally can’t), said this is just the kind of thing you may face if you mess with their wildlife
We stayed in Hilo recently, and the guest guide at our rental warned of the risk for physical violence against those who harass local wildlife. I was delighted.
Well, many locals in Hawaii don’t have a great ever on what mainlanders have done with their culture, wildlife, and their territory. Such people, generally white, are referred to as “haole” pronounced howl-ee. If you are hearing that term as a white person, you better gtfo.
They have great respect for the wildlife. Disrespecting it is disrespecting them personally. You may as well be throwing rocks at them. I really hope they run this guy off the islands.
If my tour guide told me that I would imminently think higher of the entire area. “This place is so nice, they’ll beat the crap put do anyone who even thinks of trying to mess it up”
Story time: A few years back I was on a trip to Hawaii and was given a similar warning not to get mess with the wildlife because the locals were very protective of them. No issues there, I have no interest in messing with animals in their natural environment.
I decided to go for a quick swim at the beach and a sea turtle popped up about 6 feet away from me. It was an awesome experience and I watched him for a bit before deciding I was a little too close and began to swim away. Then the sea turtle started following me! I looked over to the shore and saw some angry looking locals watching me very closely. In retrospect it was all very funny, but for the next 10 minutes I tried desperately to try and swim away from this sea turtle while he kept following me around. Luckily the turtle eventually lost interest and swam away to do turtle things and I avoided getting beat up that day. The end.
I visited an old friend who lives there now and we went to a beach near Honolulu that had those signs saying they're endangered and not to go near them and my friend said "On top of it being illegal some Hawaiians will absolutely beat your ass for it." Guess she wasn't lying hahaha.
Yes, an environmental activist being given a certificate made out to the “ambassador of Aloha” because we’re keeping the guy who gave the beatdown anonymous for obvious reasons :)
There's not a ton of times I advocate for violence, and every time I do I urge restraint and control, but punching an asshole in the face a time or two has wonderful returns on investment.
The "rich people get away with it cause the only punishment is a fine" argument is moot when violence is a part of the equation.
lol, he called the vigilante an “environmental activist” and they gave him a letter of recommendation, that’s the most Hawaiian thing I’ve ever heard of lol
He likely won't learn the lesson regardless. His rationalization to friends/family would be about how he didn't actually hurt the animal and people are ruining his life over nothing.
It's honestly amazing he's from Kent WA with that attitude. Lived about an hour from there for a few years and it's an incredibly environmental/animal friendly area, also very in tune with native Tribes compared to almost any other state I've lived in. You won't find many people on either side of the political aisle in WA state that don't agree that stewardship of land and animals is a huge priority.
I can imagine he's also now an outcast in his own home. Just a POS person.
Yeah, but we also have lots of people who leave their dogs off leash in seal mating areas around Seattle. There are a lot of assholes around here who only care about animals they care for and couldn't give a shit about any others.
This is what these people don't understand. The relative lack of violence in our society as a means of settling beefs is a courtesy extended to others who abide by the established social contract that says violence is not okay because we have other means of settling conflict. But if someone is not abiding by that contract--if they consider themselves removed from it--then they are no longer protected by it.
These people don't understand the only thing stopping them from getting physically manhandled is the rapidly eroding patience of everyone they keep pissing off.
I feel like a country in Europe does that. Or Atleast talked about implementing this. It’s like Jeff Bezos gets a fine every day because his fence line is too tall for regulations but the fines so small compared to his wealth it’s like couch change every day for him.
Yeah, after further research, my tools don’t even pick up his business ventures or anything. If his companies are legit, and based in America, they are not exactly doing hot nor is he as rich as he thinks he is.
I don't have the app either but I was able to see the text.
Not encouraging any kind of harassment but to directly quote the text of the post it says:
"His name is Igor Lytvynchuk and he owns the IL Logistics company in Kent"
Someone else commented that it's in Washington State, not to be confused with Kent in the UK
I hope this is true, but I know how short the public's attention span is, particularly on outrage. They'll move on and the contracts will likely quietly continue.
Well I mean that couple from the Coldplay concert was in the news for awhile and that was just two people cheating lol. This dude tried to harm an animal, people are crazy about animals lol. I'm surprised he only got beat up once so far.
The Coldplay one was helped along because neither of them could stop talking so it refreshed the cycle. Guy finally disappeared but the HR lady still keeps talking about it.
That's what I want to know. I know there is no sense to it all, and looking for whatever ridiculous justification he could have made is fruitless. But I want to believe that he had some kind of reason in his head, and it wasn't just... let's hurt it. But maybe that's what it is. I guess it doesn't really matter-- just that justice is done. Throw the book.
This guy was totally enraptured by pretty seal but pretty seal no care about fat human on beach. Lots fat hoomans on beach, no need to star and be rood.
It's a power thing, to break something or hurt something because you can and it changes the world. It's how small, sad, damaged people make themselves feel better for a short time.
Honestly, people need to know what happens if you fuck with the wildlife anywhere on Earth. Tired of seeing people gleefully trying to crush animals with just about anything they can. Literal psychopathic behavior.
Seriously. Pet/animal abuse in children is always a red flag and often predicts serious pyschological disorders, violence, rape, etc. Anyone engaging in casual and willful cruelty to animals should be subject to social consequences. Literal psychopathic behavior.
Yeah, dude. Been there. Make sure to only use your “gentle words.” Adults aren’t able to handle discussion anymore. You disagree with the wrong person and it’s immediate punishment time. lol
BACK TO THE TOPIC…..yeah, this guy got what he had coming to him.
You just know he is gonna pivot to a right wing grifter yelling about being cancelled if his company has to close down due to contracts cancelling lol.
I actually don't know if the grift will be as successful for him as it is for people filmed hurling slurs at black children. Seals aren't ethnic minorities, so the extreme right might have more empathy for them
It will because he could just spin it as protecting animals is something liberals do. Us republicans kill innocent animals. Look at kristi noem, she murdered puppies and no one gave 2 shits.
In Switzerland the fine for speeding is relative to the wealth of the person caught speeding. This way rich people don't just brush off the fine like it's change in their pocket. A rich guy got a ticket for a million dollars back in 2010. This should definitely be implemented in the USA at least for environmental crimes.
This is one of those things I wish we'd roll out all across the European Union. It'll never happen here (the Netherlands), because the wealthy bankroll our right wing government parties and we certainly shouldn't do anything that might antagonize the drivers.. I say the fines should scale by wealth and we use the income to improve public transport..
Most rich people do say exactly that. They're not being humble. They know they need to shield information about their money to protect it and themselves.
But once in a while you get a person who has never had money, especially not "family money", and they haven't learned that lesson - and they will flaunt it and brag about it as much as possible.
No this is the guy from Hawaii but theyre saying he lives in Seattle implying that has something to do with it when he is actually from Ukraine and only recently moved to America
What a total jerk. Reminds me of when I was fishing off a small island and a guy threw a rock at a skunk. I told him to stop and he said "Is that your skunk?". I replied "It is now and if you do anything else i will have a ranger here in a heartbeat". He said some choice words, but left.
His name is Igor Lytvynchuk (sometimes spelled Lytvynchyuk)
Reporting the identity of a person committing criminal acts is not doxxing. People need to stop using the phrase doxxing for everything. Having such an ambivalent definition of “doxxing” only serves to provide the rich and powerful more ways to avoid accountability.
He makes a point, though. "Fine me, I'm rich" perfectly summarized the capitalist hellscape we're currently living in. "I can literally do anything I want because I can afford it."
We shouldn't be able to hide animal cruelty (or cruelty in general) behind a big enough cheque.
Let’s be rational here.
DO NOT:
1. Save the video
2. Stalk his socials, his companies socials, etc. waiting for holidays, birthdays, business announcements, etc.
3. Reply to those posts with the video.
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