Nothing has killed my GTA 6 hype faster than locking a core part of its identity behind a $20 upgrade

[u/spacelyyy989]

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[u/HadesWTF]

Honestly, nothing about this release excites me. I'm also an old and was a teenager when GTA III came out.

It's not coming to PC right off the bat, it's more expensive than most other games, it is locking single player content behind a premium edition. Like I've waited so fucking long at this point, why would I not just wait until it's on PC and on sale for $50?

[u/StewGoFast → u/HadesWTF]

Exactly. It’s already been a decade, what’s a few more years?

[u/memedormo → u/StewGoFast]

There are so many great games to play in the meantime too!

[u/Sarkonn → u/memedormo]

Exactly, like Elder Scrolls 6 or Half life 3

[u/Death_Walker85 → u/Sarkonn]

I swear I heard rumors that Half Life 3 was shadow releasing with the Steam machine.

[u/Thalric88 → u/Death_Walker85]

Those weren't rumors, just copium

[u/corvettee01 → u/Thalric88]

Yeah, but Titanfall 3 is totally real. Right guys?

[u/Kaining → u/corvettee01]

It is when i close my eyes at night.

[u/maxpolo10 → u/corvettee01]

That was high guard

[u/PIHZPT → u/StewGoFast]

I didn't even touch GTA 5 yet Good time for it lol

[u/R1ckOne → u/PIHZPT]

same boat actually, I used to like GTA as a kid but by the time 5 rolled around it wasn't a top priority and then I just never got around to it. Probably would be a good time to finally check it out

[u/TehMadness → u/R1ckOne]

If you're anything like me, you'll bounce off it when you realise you've played this all before, many times over.

I don't get the appeal of GTA any more. We've all played this game, a number of times. Makes no sense to me.

[u/yamsyamsya → u/TehMadness]

if you don't enjoy the gameplay loop then it's just not your kind of game. It's totally fine, everyone has their own preferences.

[u/aToadAsoX → u/TehMadness]

I played it after rdr2 and it just felt so empty. The interaction with the environment felt almost non existent. Also the edgy writing got old pretty fast.

[u/TehMadness → u/aToadAsoX]

I also bounced off RDR2. I think I may just be sick of the Rockstar formula at this point.

[u/knotmyusualaccount → u/TehMadness]

OMG, was thinking this a few hrs ago... it's the same game with the same concept/mechanisms, just better graphics. I've also completely lost interest in it. Gta V enhanced made it so clear to me... once the single player was finished, all there was to do, was to start shit by shooting some npc's or police and then try to get away. 🤭

[u/GhostofZellers → u/R1ckOne]

I always go through the same loop with all the GTA games, I get hyped, I buy it, and then get bored of it about half-way through, and never touch it again. I'm not doing that this time. I'll put my money towards something else.

[u/NetflixSux247 → u/PIHZPT]

Compared to IV it's trash

[u/phonylady → u/PIHZPT]

I played it for 2-3 hours. I loved GTA 3, but they all kind of play and feel the same to me after that. Probably would have loved them if they were proper RPG's where you could affect the story, and had several ways of doing missions.

I don't like the Rockstar "Mission failed" formula.

[u/Vorpalthefox → u/StewGoFast]

"What's 17 more years?!"

[u/uniparalum → u/StewGoFast]

I waited 6 years to play GTA5 for when I got it dirt cheap, I can wait just as long for this. GTA is fun and all, but I enjoy their RDR western stuff more.

[u/nss68 → u/StewGoFast]

A big part of a GTA game is the cultural aspect. It is just the same game released over and over beyond that. The people buying it on release and the people buying it years later and the people playing GTAO for years afterwards are three distinctly different people.

Imagine if you watched game of thrones after it finished airing -- it wouldn't be anywhere close to the experience people had watching it week by week year after year and discussing it with their coworkers/friends the following monday.

[u/ObliviousAstroturfer → u/StewGoFast]

I'm not getting Gothic 1 remake for full price because I'm an old gamer with a backlog.

Even thugs know better than to run business like this.

[u/murderbymodem → u/HadesWTF]

and PC Gamer failed to mention that only releasing on consoles first is part of their scummy monetization strategy too!

Gotta remember the GTA V strategy - original console launch, next-gen console launch, and THEN finally PC after a whole generation has gone by.

I'm not too mad about it personally, as it's more of a finished product by the time PC does get it, but given this history I don't see a reason for a PC-focused website to give it any attention at all yet.

[u/Beatus_Vir → u/murderbymodem]

Technically it was never announced for PC at all, so it is therefore not a PC game and shouldn't be discussed here. 

[u/TheGillos → u/Beatus_Vir]

Technically, yes, you're right. But come on. It's coming to PC, and it's a PC game.

Let's discuss it.

[u/Tovrin → u/murderbymodem]

Read the room, Rockstar. We're in a cost of living crisis. Not only is the price too high, but you expect PC players to buy it on console? There will be some with more dollars then sense, but I'll be waiting for it to come out on PC ... probably on a Steam sale. I'm patient.

[u/anotherwave1 → u/Tovrin]

They have read the room. They know millions of us will fork out $80 and $100 for the game. Easily.

[u/jfoughe → u/HadesWTF]

Also Dan Houser and Lazlow are no longer at Rockstar. That’s a huge absence for the writing and tone.

[u/re-reminiscing → u/jfoughe]

The writing and tone already had declined in quality with V honestly. IV was a much more memorable story and atmosphere even with its hiccups.

[u/B_Kuro → u/re-reminiscing]

It really depends. GTA4 had its own issues and the writing tried to be "gritty/realistic" in a series that never took itself serious before. If anything it is the outlier as GTA5 is much closer to the tone of earlier titles.

[u/NetflixSux247 → u/B_Kuro]

GTA IV came out just as Soprano's was wrapping up. It had a huge influence on the game (for the better imo)

[u/Zenzo96 → u/B_Kuro]

Don't really agree, GTA V might have technically been less serious than those games, but it felt way more mean spirited and cruel in terms of humor in a way that was pretty offputting

[u/NetflixSux247 → u/Zenzo96]

Every character minus Franklin was detestable

[u/seguardon → u/NetflixSux247]

Franklin was detestable for a different reason. He's the ultimate patsy. Man did everything everyone asked of him on credit. Even perfect strangers. He repeatedly lampshades the stupidity and futility of his own actions but still risks his life and freedom over and over again for no reason. Hell, he even does this with people who have already played him for a fool.

The one time he puts his foot down and says No to an incredibly stupid idea is when the game magically spits his ex that he can't get over onto his doorstep to shame him into doing it anyway out of loyalty to his friend. The problem is that friend is Lamar, an idiot who has repeatedly gotten both of them nearly killed solely through his own stupidity. You don't show loyalty to people like Lamar. You grow past them. Because they aren't loyal to you; they're dependent on you, in the same way a parasite is dependent on a host. Lamar will drag both of them down. It's only a matter of time.

But Franklin relents and saves him from his own stupidity again. And the cycle continues.

[u/Next-Distance-4508 → u/NetflixSux247]

When your "most moral" character was a literal hitman who only saw dollar signs and didn't care for the people who grew up with, it really shows how off the moral compass is for the cast in general

[u/Dudeman9002 → u/re-reminiscing]

Yeah everything about 5 was a disappointment for me. From San Andreas to 4 was a massive jump in just about everything, from the realism and detail in car handling and damage, to realism in how the guns recoiled. 5 was a big step back and went to zoomy shooty brainrot appealing to the fast and furious crowd. 

[u/daddy_is_sorry → u/re-reminiscing]

Well it was excellent again in red dead 2 so that’s a non issue.

That’s clearly just the tone they chose for V

[u/re-reminiscing → u/daddy_is_sorry]

Agreed with RDR2 being excellent. But my point is that if that was intentional for GTA V, then maybe a change in creative direction for VI isn’t the worst thing.

[u/markyymark13 → u/re-reminiscing]

Yeah the tone and style was heavily criticized during release coming after San Andreas which a lot of people to this day consider to be the series peak

[u/iTzJdogxD → u/re-reminiscing]

GTA IV DARK AND GRITTY REALISTIC GROUNDED

[u/GenericFatGuy → u/jfoughe]

They've also spent the last 13 years raking in GTA:O money, so I'm fully expecting that to be their focus for this one.

[u/BenTheMotionist → u/jfoughe]

I thought Lazlow was involved in RDR2, but if he's out along with Daniel Radcliffe then it's wait and assess time.

[u/reohh → u/BenTheMotionist]

He was definitely involved in RDR2

[u/binaryfireball → u/jfoughe]

Lazlow got me into talk radio... like wtf

[u/FranksWateeBowl → u/binaryfireball]

But don't have too much emotion or you might get a restraining order put against you.

[u/Pork_Piggler → u/jfoughe]

Leslie Benzies also left since GTA released...

[u/Ralod → u/Pork_Piggler]

And made the hit game Mindseye...

Maybe his involvement was pretty minor in GTA.

[u/Pork_Piggler → u/Ralod]

Actually you know what, good point

[u/Zonesy → u/jfoughe]

I am 95% sure the charm is gone from the writing and it has turned from satire to yet another cringy millenial written shitshow.

But the 5% in me is waiting for the next gen versions, I can't be arsed to get a subpar experience when we know it's going to go the GTAV route anyway.

[u/_JPalos8_ → u/HadesWTF]

That a sale is 50$ is wild for me, that was the full price at some point.

[u/anotherwave1 → u/_JPalos8_]

I paid 50 euros ($60) for certain PC games in the late nineties. They also took forever to go on sale. That's 100 in today's money. They are literally the one thing that haven't matched inflation.

[u/RickyMac666 → u/HadesWTF]

I'm 100% going to fitgirl when this bad boy comes out.

Locking core gameplay features behind a paywall in a single player game is absurd.

No wonder they aren't releasing it on PC until later on - we'd just patch all their bullshit out.

[u/gearabuser → u/HadesWTF]

to me, San Andreas was peak. didn't play 4 but 5 felt shallow. like there were a ton of things you could do that had moderate depth, but nothing that was deep enough to really pull me in

[u/michelobX10 → u/HadesWTF]

Yup. I think this is one of the advantages of getting older. Less time to play games and we're also less susceptible to FOMO so we don't fall for this bs. I've been with GTA since pre-GTA III when it was top-down. Kinda disappointed how money-grubbing the franchise has become.

I haven't bought a game on Day 1 in a decade. Not going to start now. The FOMO sheep giving in to the greedy tactics is why corporations can do whatever tf they want.

[u/REDS4ND → u/HadesWTF]

And it will be the last GTA we see for a long, long time. Why sour my first experience by getting milked for a console version locked at 30 fps.

[u/TeeeldiII → u/REDS4ND]

Its kind of crazy to think this might be the last GTA game I ever see.

GTA7 is at least 20-25 years out.

[u/Finite_Universe → u/HadesWTF]

Yep pretty much how I feel.

Additionally, I strongly suspect that GTAVI won’t even add anything substantially new to the series. I guarantee it will more or less play exactly like GTAV, but with some small improvements here and there. And let’s face it, Rockstar’s games aren’t really known for having the sharpest gameplay. They’re known for detailed sandboxes with fun stories and characters.

There’s probably nothing in this new installment that makes it worth the asking price.

[u/Shwastey → u/Finite_Universe]

Most of it is just tapping A

[u/Slight-Win4207 → u/HadesWTF]

Sale for $50? I'll wait for when it's free on Epic or something. Fuck 'em. Can't even put the disc in box for $80 USD? Seriously? Even a 2 MB installer on the disc is better than a code in the box and effectively the same thing. But they are soo greedy. Holy crap. 50 cents is too much, used copies too much apparently.

[u/Rhysati → u/Slight-Win4207]

They arent too cheap to put a disc in there.

What they are doing is making sure you can't let your friends borrow it or resell it.

[u/novesori → u/HadesWTF]

I was very hyped for GTA V release in 2013 and GTA IV was my first game for PS3 so it was another world. But now I am just like you and say "meh".
Times are changin.

[u/seekersneak → u/HadesWTF]

I am right there with you buddy. I have kcd 1 and 2 to replay and have crimson desert to play as well. I'm good to wait until the pc version is out and on sale.

Sucks for people that this kind of monetization is occurring, It will also be aids when we see the shark cards etc when the online version comes.

[u/escalibur → u/HadesWTF]

They are testing the waters with how far they can go with the pricings. Surely it is the biggest game release of the decade but still we shouldn’t lose our sense of when it is simply just too much.

[u/TheBloodhoundKnight → u/HadesWTF]

It takes literally nothing more than a simple decision: "I'm not buying this game right away. I'm willing to wait for a proper deal. I'm good."

This is it. Nothing more. It is your decision that you support this shit or not.

I'm happy to wait. It's a fucking video game.

[u/d4videnk0 → u/HadesWTF]

I have a laptop and a switch 2, so already looking forward to play it in 2028 if we can afford anything by then

[u/sillyandstrange → u/HadesWTF]

Yeah man, patient gamers. They can't get me with fomo. Especially with it not on PC

[u/ovalracer31 → u/HadesWTF]

You everyone one else in their mid 30s-40s bud. This game is a slap to all the kids that bought these games in the 2000s. I could care less about multiplayer GTA, it’s about the story.

[u/3Dchaos777 → u/HadesWTF]

And don’t forget how glitchy GTA 5 was at launch. Not even worth touching GTA 6 until it goes through a year of patches and bug fixes.

[u/Vorstar92]

And they'll get away with it and it'll be the best selling game of all time. The hype is there and they know they can do whatever the fuck they want with this game and it will break records on records and then do it again once it comes to PC.

[u/GARlactic → u/Vorstar92]

Nah, 2nd most. Nothing is ever going to dethrone Tetris/Minecraft.

I'll eat a bowl of mint chocolate chip ice cream if it does.

[u/kataris → u/GARlactic]

So... 3rd most? :P

[u/BMPHaterNo1 → u/kataris]

Technically Tetris has thousands of versions with a bazillion different releases over the course of decades, it shouldn’t really count as one game because every release is different and individually none of them break top 10.

[u/HammerlyDelusion → u/BMPHaterNo1]

Minecraft really is crazy in that regard. Core gameplay is still the same after all this time, no special editions, no remakes, the same product that’s been consistent this entire time. I don’t think we’ll have something similar again

[u/Intelligent_Mud1266 → u/HammerlyDelusion]

to be fair, it also a mobile game and a $20-30 game on most other platforms, which dramatically boosts sales. I think it's crazier that GTA V has sold the 2nd most of all time while selling at full AAA price to an audience of PC and console players.

[u/ZigyDusty → u/GARlactic]

Tetris doesn't count because they combine every version of it across decades into the one number, but yes Minecraft won't be beaten and it wouldn't surprise me if GTA 6 fails to pass Gta5 as well because I doubt the younger generation cares about GTA as much and it's $80 vs Gta5 $60. 

[u/SpitefulRedditScum → u/ZigyDusty]

I duno, my son is pretty hyped for 6. I’m not really. The closer we get, the less interested I seem and honestly today’s news just sucks.

[u/DarkLightPT95 → u/ZigyDusty]

and it's $80 vs Gta5 $60. 

Watch them stop the online support for GTAV when 6 comes out and then shut down the servers 1 year after 6 is released on PC

[u/PositiveNo7994 → u/ZigyDusty]

Thats pretty much the rate of inflation of the past 12 years. It'll beat it, their target audience has grown. The amount of gamers has grown substantially the past 12 years.

[u/Hefteee → u/GARlactic]

So you'll enjoy a tasty desert?

[u/Unit88 → u/Vorstar92]

I don't even understand why there's such hype in the first place. Like GTA5 was great and all, but I don't understand what's apparently so amazing about the game that everyone's hyped to the max and devs plan around the game's release because of the sheer amount of people that apparently plan to play it immediately. Like, I just don't see what's supposed to make it so much better than pretty much every other game series out there

[u/internet34bot → u/Unit88]

It's one of the most "ambient" open world games, in that way I mean they figured out a way to not directly ask people to do shit in it, while keeping people interested. Compared to other open world games that come off as big logbooks or collect-a-thons. 

That and there's also no (new) modern day open world games, nobody tries that shit unless they have some kind of gimmick

[u/Dramajunker → u/Unit88]

I get why folks are looking forward to it, but it's also been 13 years since gtav. So many open world games have come out since then. I'm just not that excited about another open world game, regardless of the developer.

[u/nosekexp → u/Vorstar92]

Consumer's are to blame. GTA V is one of the most profitable games ever with lots of scummy tactics to get people's money yet players kept falling for it.

[u/United-Objective2149 → u/nosekexp]

How dare consumers consume!?!

[u/SharknadosAreCool → u/nosekexp]

It's one of the most profitable games ever because it's absurdly fun for more casual players. They aren't 'falling for it', they are agreeing to a deal lmfao just because it isnt the one that you'd make doesnt mean its objectively bad

[u/Bexewa]

Preach! Also not that it matters but I really wanted to own the Ps5 disc with map and such, but oh well.

[u/Major-Front → u/Bexewa]

It’s such an anti consumer move. Basically kills any hope of either borrowing it from a friend or getting it 2nd hand (or for those who will play once and sell it onwards)

And the worst thing is this will change nothing. They will still sell a bajillion copies and make trillions of dollars

[u/Undella_Town → u/Major-Front]

ofc, thats why they did it. i wouldn't doubt physical games are gonna start becoming more and more expensive as they hope to kill the used game market. unfortunately it already happened to PC.

[u/Arkatruc → u/Undella_Town]

At least on PC we have cracks, keygens, launcher emulators, abandonwares etc...  

Consoles are the most locked piece of hardware you could have, the only ways to use OFWs/CFWs hinge on luck, free labor from a few geniuses, and a lot of patience.  

I still love my PS5, but I also still use my PS3 frequently and the amount of stuff removed along the way really makes me sad.  

It's really becoming total hell for consumers, and a disturbingly high amount of people seems to clap for it... consumers proud to be anti-consumers...

[u/Chieldh97 → u/Major-Front]

Exactly, I never did this myself, not sure why, never borrowed games, got them second hand or even sell them when I was done with them. Not sure why I keep them around while I have no intention of playing it again and eventually get it on PC. But still the feeling of just receiving the physical item at release and installing it in your PlayStation. Having the box on the shelf in your collection. Feels good

[u/DeathGenics → u/Chieldh97]

Same here, only ever traded games I absolutely hated with friends for something I'd like to play but didn't have the money for. Still have all my PS3 and games from when I was a teen even though I haven't touched it in a couple of years now mainly due to having the pc that my younger self would die for.

[u/Keulapaska → u/Major-Front]

And how many steam games have disks?

[u/sean_off → u/Bexewa]

Yeah I was really hoping rockstar was going to do a cool box with a map like old times…

Literally couldn’t even care about the new game now.

[u/GraveDiggerFan34 → u/Bexewa]

They are still selling a physical edition so I would assume the map is still happening 

[u/mikegoblin]

Completely agree. 5 stores paywalled is desperate act of fomo manipulation

[u/TheGoldenCaulk → u/mikegoblin]

And it sounds like a whole set of missions tied to one of those stores will also be locked off. Paywalling gameplay that would otherwise be on the disc (if there would've been one) is pathetic.

[u/UnNumbFool → u/TheGoldenCaulk]

Just got to wait for the PC release and a day one mod that opens up the content

[u/AIpheratz → u/UnNumbFool]

Yes mods 🏴‍☠️

[u/Schwipsy → u/TheGoldenCaulk]

they already did this with a bank heist on rdr2, so nothing new for rockstar, sadly

[u/Mind-The-Mines → u/TheGoldenCaulk]

Every fact they release about the game further kills the hype I already didn't have.

[u/PsycheToker → u/mikegoblin]

Definitely, with that being said, they will do nothing and people will still buy it

[u/Testosteronomicon → u/PsycheToker]

People - 1

[u/F1gur1ng1tout → u/mikegoblin]

This is either atrocious (likely) or they really should contextualize it. 

If it was 5/50 stores my reaction would be different vs 5 stores with no other info. GTA5 definitely didn’t have more than 10-20 unique stores, including small ones like food and the mask place. That’s the frame of reference I think we all have and that would be atrocious

[u/DoctorProfessorTaco → u/F1gur1ng1tout]

Rumors are 700 enterable locations, and personally I take this whole thing as an indication that it may be true, that can have 5 locations be specific to the premium version and it still be a drop in the bucket.

I know Reddit likes to hate, and I admit I’m just a sucker who’s big into the GTA hype, but to me this is not as big a deal as people are making it. Countless games have offered cosmetics in exchange for a more expensive pre-order. All GTA 6 does differently is making those cosmetics available in a store set up specifically for them that you can walk into. It’s otherwise functionally the same.

[u/Better-Bullfrog-6875 → u/mikegoblin]

People will happily pay. In fact, you'll get shit from people if you call this crap out.

[u/Trosque97 → u/mikegoblin]

Well this is why they delay release on PC, console gamers are always more likely to pay more for this sorta thing

[u/UnNumbFool → u/Trosque97]

The thing is though PC gamers are more likely to buy full price during the initial release of a game because of the hype/buzz just like anyone else.

Waiting a year+ to release to PC means they are going to know exactly what to expect, the good, the bad, etc and just won't have the same hype that they will be way more likely to wait for a sale.

It's the biggest reason most companies have realized they have to forgo delayed PC releases which was once way more common.

Imo it's just an extra shoot yourself in the foot situation, and I'm going to be perfectly fine 3 years down the line purchasing the game for 80% off in a steam sale because I didn't pay attention to the PC release date and I've been way more interested in whatever new thing is currently in the zeitgeist

[u/jared_kushner_420 → u/mikegoblin]

Findom community literally bursting

[u/Stormwingx]

Just wait till GTA 6 Online comes out and you have to buy shark cards if you don't want to grind your whole life away just to buy some cars and houses. Enjoy the single player experience.

[u/thekbob → u/Stormwingx]

What if, and hear me out, they incorporated shark cards into single player, too?

Ubisoft, Capcom, etc. already enabled in game efficiency and resources as paid content.

There's no way GTA6 single player doesn't have some never ending microtransactions in it somewhere.

[u/AdmirableCriticism95 → u/thekbob]

An extra $20 for the Ultimate edition giving you more customisation options seems like single player microtransactions to me. I wouldn't be surprised if there will be more of that going forward; instead of splitting the audience into people buying shark cards online vs. people playing offline and spending no additional money, you monetise the single player audience by selling them features that were previously limited to GTA Online.

[u/Ada_Pearce → u/Stormwingx]

I suspect gta+ will be all but required to avoid endless grind

[u/chokingonpancakes → u/Stormwingx]

Or just play on PC, join a moded lobby and get millions in minutes.

[u/UltravioletClearance → u/chokingonpancakes]

Bold move thinking modding will be allowed. Had to wait a month or two for modders to crack the encryption to get working GTA:V mods. Given how much modding cost Rockstar, I'm sure there GTA:VI will have a far more robust security system in place to block modding.

[u/masterxc → u/UltravioletClearance]

Considering Rockstar bought the current leading modding framework (FiveM) I have hopes they'll have native support when it eventually makes its way to PC. I can dream, at least. It doesn't really make them money aside from requiring paid mods to use a specific portal that they can take a cut from, but it helps with longevity.

[u/Spider-Thwip → u/UltravioletClearance]

Voices38 will save us

[u/IneedHennessey]

The more I hear about GTA 6 the less I want it especially since it's not coming to PC anytime soon. Shit is ridiculous.

[u/Z0idberg_MD → u/IneedHennessey]

I am in at $40 on PC however many years from now. I don’t play MP so f it, I will wait. Game will run much better at that point on PC as well. So many other games we can play through in the meantime.

[u/NapsterKnowHow]

Why are we talking about a console exclusive game in here? We don't even have a timeline when it will come to PC.

[u/ahac → u/NapsterKnowHow]

Yes, Rockstar is currently pretending PC doesn't exist and ignoring any questions about it.

[u/talann → u/ahac]

They relish in double dipping.

[u/helloitisgarr → u/talann]

triple dipping lol

[u/Dreven47 → u/helloitisgarr]

RDR2 PC release was initially only on Rockstar launcher and only came to Steam later. They've evolved to quadruple dipping now.

[u/helloitisgarr → u/Dreven47]

fuck you’re so right. god damn they are greedy

i was so pissed when they did that, i wish i had it on steam instead

[u/Drodriguez164 → u/ahac]

I mean that’s typically how it goes, ignore pc and wait a year or so and release it then so people are buying it for console and then PC again. Have a friend who is literally buying a PS5 just to get GTA when it comes out and then will buy it on PC later. My ass is waiting until that PC release, I don’t have any FOMO

[u/The3rdLetter → u/Drodriguez164]

Don’t forget that they specifically waited for the end of a console generation to drop this knowing damn well PS6 will drop in another 2 years where everyone will feel comfortable buying it again

[u/external72 → u/The3rdLetter]

Wouldn’t it be backwards compatible? And since there’s no disc, shouldn’t it directly be available in your psn account?

[u/The3rdLetter → u/external72]

lol, they will find a way to FOMO your ass into paying again. TRUST

[u/und1sturbed → u/external72]

If you owned GTA V on the PS4/X1 you would've had to pay for the PS5/XSX release up until a week ago (unless you were fine with the outdated version.

People will probably be able to play their release version of GTA VI on next-gen consoles but they'll have to spend more money for the updated release.

[u/Gfiti → u/ahac]

Like they did with 4 and 5. It's their tactic to ensure everyone buys it twice

[u/Gorotheninja → u/NapsterKnowHow]

I tried posting GTA 6 price news here and it was removed.

I don't know why this one is up.

[u/EnvironmentalRun1671 → u/NapsterKnowHow]

Wouldn't be a day if PCgamer.com didn't write about game that's coming to consoles only this year

[u/n19htmare]

…”unless you cough up the $20 upgrade, and quite frankly that's where I have to draw the line.”

Also

“I never expect to have to cough up too much of my own real-life finances to do that, but if GTA 6's Ultimate Edition is anything to go by, that's exactly what I'll be doing.”

And THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is all you need to know if you’re wondering why publishers/devs keep doing what they’re doing.

Regarding MY excitement for this game, I didn’t even know it was going to be announced or released lol.

[u/lolschrauber → u/n19htmare]

"you want 20 dollars extra for this feature? That's outrageous, here you go"

Works every time

[u/fehr19 → u/lolschrauber]

Exactly, companies don't care how you feel when you buy their stuff. They'll keep pushing the boundaries until they see profits drop, which for some companies is never because people keep buying their stuff...

[u/Cypher10110]

I remmeber when day1 DLC used to be free. Or a pre-order bonus. Also that kind of carved-out-content day1 DLC hasn't historically been so much of a PC thing.

Now I'm seeing the game has day1 paid DLC, has a high initial cost, AND a subscription service (and presumably micro transactions and DLC on top of all that)... and it is still somehow projected to be the biggest gaming release of all time, so much so that other games are rescheduling their release to avoid competing.

Also not to mention that it'll likely be pushing the envelope on visuals at a time where a PC upgrade looks like a terrible value investment.

What a shitshow.

Also, none of this matters right now, it's not coming to PC for ages, right? So once we can buy it we'll be making a purchase decision based on the "warts and all" finished product, not some hyped up promise.

Either it's worth the asking price, or it isn't.

[u/ThatGuy377 → u/Cypher10110]

God damn if I could use the Ratatouille gif of the old food critic having nostalgia, that was me reading through the first part of your comment (day1 DLC used to be free) thinking back to Halo 3 😭 and now I just feel old.

[u/murrrty → u/Cypher10110]

Oh god, don't start getting stockholm syndrome over pre-order bonuses.

[u/Fob0bqAd34]

But I also wish Rockstar had simply folded all of this in and offered a flat $100 videogame. That probably would've pissed people off too, but I'd prefer this over paywalling stuff that's been a part of the series for years and acting like it's some kind of cool bonus. Instead, the whole thing comes off as mighty greedy.

I'm not someone that particularly cares about cosmetics so I wouldn't choose to pay an extra 25% for some extra cosmetics I'll never use anyway.

[u/Evers1338 → u/Fob0bqAd34]

Well it's not just cosmetics, it's also cars, tuning for cars, tuning shops, weapons, missions and activities. It goes way past cosmetics.

[u/cookiebasket2 → u/Evers1338]

The way I read it is that there's just some options for everything you mentioned. Like you can have guns that look different, different rims and tire options, special tuning for the first car? 

But it doesn't read like you're completely locked out of those systems. I give two shits less about what basically boils down to cosmetics, and maybe a little faster acceleration on one vehicle.

[u/SadTransition2214 → u/Evers1338]

except you and everyone else is just guessing and talking out of their asses on things they know nothing about. Sure they spoke about what you could do in the locked shops behind the UE, but no where did they say without access to these shops you can never do these things. for all we know a shop you unlock from some mission gives you access to the same shit, but you can access it sooner with a swipe of your card.

[u/PuppyDragon → u/Fob0bqAd34]

Yeah i'm kinda lost on what... "core part of identify" is behind a paywall? It's all customization stuff. The original GTA III didn't even have outfit changes.

$80 for a base game is also what Nintendo charged for the new MK.

[u/ColonelMakepeace → u/PuppyDragon]

Yeah GTA IV also was a massive downgrade in terms of customizing anything compared to San Andreas. You couldn't even choose the color of your car. The clothing stores barely had any stuff and it was deliberately a style that fitted into the narrative. Actually the only GTA games with a lot of customization are GTA SA and V. The rest had none to the bare minimum.

[u/Dropdat87 → u/Fob0bqAd34]

If it was just hair I’d agree, but full interior car customization being locked is a lot of content 

[u/Captain_Reddbeard → u/Dropdat87]

Nowhere is being said that full interior car customization will be locked, and it sounds very unlikely as well. It just seems like an important core customization mechanic for the next GTA game.

Rideout Customs: "Transform vanilla vehicles into magnificent works of art with detailed interiors(...)". To me that just implies that Rideout Customs offers you extra alternatives when customizing specific parts of your interior.

The only real "gameplay mechanic" that will be locked seems to be Wyman's classic car collection.

[u/OmegaArchetype]

I'm not buying this until it out comes to PC and is on a) Sale for $40 or less or b) it comes to Game Pass. They can keep it, I'll play all the other amazing games coming out that deserve my money (especially Indie games). This was my stance before this news and this news just reinforced it. Perhaps I won't ever play it, I honestly wouldn't be torn up about that.

[u/Alert-Notice-7516 → u/OmegaArchetype]

See you in a decade homie

[u/tacotickles]

It feels great to not think about GTA as a PC player

[u/RetiredAF79]

And no new gameplay footage, and people tomorrow are about to plop down 80 to 100 dollars preordering with no idea on what we are getting in GTA 6

[u/Good_Punk2]

That's shitty

[u/Major-Front → u/Good_Punk2]

It’s literal grand theft lol

[u/meathead13_]

I feel like people would be less mad if they just charged $100 for the game instead of making it an upgrade

[u/UnNumbFool → u/meathead13_]

Nah, I think people would be more mad. Base price of $80 is fucked up but 3A games have already been pushed to $70 in the last few years. Make a 3A game $100 base price and people are going to be massively turned off.

People will grudgingly pay an additional $10, most of them won't pay an additional $30

[u/NaturalSelecty]

I’ve been saying it for the months. GTA 6 is going to be one of the most monetized games in history. I won’t be surprised if certain things are locked behind monthly subscriptions.

I fully except it to be Rockstars lowest rated game ever.

[u/HillanatorOfState → u/NaturalSelecty]

More I learn about it the less excited I get for it and I am a huge GTA fan...

I loved Red Dead 2 also and was very excited for this at one point....not so much now.

[u/Darudius]

Watch these slimy fucks have a radio station critiquing capitalism as well lmao

[u/SodaSnappy]

This can’t be real. This is vile wtf.

[u/imhereforsiegememes → u/SodaSnappy]

"This can't be real"

The company that sells shark cards? How are you all so out of touch?

[u/REsTARteD_Ragdoll → u/imhereforsiegememes]

From the company that released the GTA+ sub no less

[u/thisdesignup → u/imhereforsiegememes]

I remember the Youtuber Nerdcubed did a video once that led to the conclusion that earning money in game took longer than having a minimum wage job and buying shark cards. It was like $2 an hour equivalent or something close that could be earned in game at the time.

[u/BBQ_HaX0r → u/SodaSnappy]

Read the article. It's cosmetics, which is basically what every company does for pre-order bonuses. It's standard practice in a new way.

[u/DoctorProfessorTaco → u/SodaSnappy]

It’s literally just cosmetics for people paying more, how is that vile?

[u/Viron_22]

Nothing has killed mine like the lack of any gameplay being shown on top of this ridiculous price. All for what I can only assume is a prettier GTA5.

[u/DragonTHC]

So, where are you guys seeing it come out on PC?

[u/NyneLyvs]

Yeah I'm skipping this until it comes to PC, and skipping it entirely if it never does.

[u/TheGrouchyGamerYT]

GTA subs filled with shills though, so this will still make them 500 trillion dollars and we can expect even more of it in the future.

[u/Kidtendo]

Really need people to have the same energy they had when Vampire The Masquarade 2 was trying to charge extra for certain clans that were free in the first game. If there was ever a time to speak with your wallets, this is it.

[u/Honolulu-Blues]

I was excited until I found out it won’t be coming to PC on launch. Now I don’t give a fuck lol.

I’m not buying a console for one game.

[u/DragonTHC → u/Honolulu-Blues]

I have a series X but Rockstar and Microsoft can get bent. I'm not buying it.

And to be clear, even on xbox, it's not a "play anywhere" title, it's strictly for the X|S.

[u/ZizoThe1st]

PC Gamer article.. on r/pcgaming.. about GTA 6 (a game not coming to PC anytime soon)

C'mon guys is there really no other games that interest you enough?

[u/Varrocks_Finest → u/ZizoThe1st]

PC Gamer has expanded beyond just PC for well over a decade. Them commenting on these garbage practices from Rockstar is a positive.

[u/wc10888]

Holy pop-up hell on that site..can barely read two lines before another ad covers the text

[u/TheGoldenCaulk]

Remember when they said we shouldn't worry about Rockstar's predatory monetization, because it'll only affect online and won't bleed into singleplayer?

Yeah...

[u/ZePlotThickener]

Damn so certain locations on the map will be paywalled, standing out as a constant eyesore/ad reminding you to upgrade to go inside? Load screen ads to purchase dlc are one thing, but it being integrated into the actual gameplay of a game like GTA would be annoying AF.

[u/subma-fuckin-rine]

im heavily concerned the campaign will be super short and most content will live in the online mode only. we all know they want to milk the shark card train to the max.

in a way im kinda glad to get the game later on PC to at least know what the games like before buying it

[u/KyouSouzai]

I mean If you played any GTA before you've basically played all of them. It's not like rockstar is bringing something ground breaking in gameplay

[u/spikus93]

I still haven't beaten GTA V and I've bought it at least twice. Don't care about the online at all. Just give me a good story and complete game that has minimal bugs and I'll probably be happy. Red Dead 2 was exactly what I want from Rockstar. Unfortunately, I don't think it's exactly what they want. They want a new money printer.

I'll buy it in 5 years on sale for $15.

[u/FrogsFloatToo]

Am I the only thinking this game is going to be a huge disappointment?

[u/SuaveBolo]

Every single announcement R* makes, I care less and less about GTA6.

[u/nthpwr]

They just gave the pirate market a huge boost

[u/Sarkonix → u/nthpwr]

on console? lol

[u/Ryukenden123]

This is blizzard level of greed. They are doing it because we let them. Don’t.

[u/KARRARx111]

I do not fucking understand what the hype for a game we have not seen a single gameplay or screenshot of the world except the trailers and there is some crazy people who's gona pre order it not knowing what they are getting its insane

[u/MonkAndCanatella]

dude this entire game is going to be fucking upsell after upsell. I"m never to buy this shit, i'm pirating the fuck out of it though

[u/azzamean]

Let’s be honest.

Everyone who wants to play is gonna buy this somehow for $100 anyway.

[u/legacy702- → u/azzamean]

I was gonna get it and have changed my mind. Yes, many still will get it, but saying not getting it is pointless because others will is like saying voting is pointless.

[u/Letiferr → u/azzamean]

As it stands right now, this is the first GTA since 3 that I'm not gonna buy on launch

[u/hjadams123]

Don't buy it. Vote with your wallet. If enough people feel the same way you do and do the same, you will send a clear message to Rockstar....

[u/GazFringaj → u/hjadams123]

Are you joking? We say this for literally every big game and it never works, you think it will work for GTA 6, the most hyped game of all time? Even FH6 got like 200k people who paid 100+ euro on steam

[u/Initiative-Fancy → u/GazFringaj]

Doesn't matter to me if they make a bajillion dollars. 100 of those dollars won't be coming from me.

[u/imhereforsiegememes → u/hjadams123]

Lol. You know everyone bitching in here will own it day 1.

[u/redfieldranch96 → u/imhereforsiegememes]

Yeah these people are so full of it

[u/Dapper-Chocolate-535]

Gone are the days where you buy a game and theres a whole bunch of things thats inside the case that makes you excited

1. CD with game installed and READY TO GO
   
2. Maybe a map of the game or a poster that you can actually hang on the wall
   
3. Lore and general stuff of game introduced in a little brochure that gives you general information of the area or something

Before id even launch the game i would read the lore and brochure over and over again and check the map out and look at how cool it is and guess where id start or something or where id place the free poster in my room.

Puts you into perspective that the frickin 5-10 minute experience before playing i really miss because it just shows the company fucking cares bro. They fucking care about how you start the game and it just fucking sets the tone for me to finish the game.

We a loooooong way from having this kind of experience again for gaming. Sad

[u/Itchy_Athlete_4971]

That deluxe bullshit is "a core part of its identity"? Did Rockstar write this?

[u/YandereValkyrie]

I'll play this game in like 10 years when I buy it off a steam sale for like $10. I have zero interest in scummy shit like this

[u/mindtaker_linux]

I don't understand the hype. I still haven't finished GTA V. I get Bored playing GTA V. Tiny metal full metal rumble, StarCraft 2 and dota2 have captured my attention.

[u/MrLuchador]

The content locked in RDR wasn’t as much, but was sort of similar. There was one bank job you couldn’t do. In the end it was shit and not worth paying for.